Which Fate Series Should We Do? - Poll!
Choose between these two options to help us decide where in the complicated fate series to start!
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Guys we can’t forget that after Zero we will have to win another poll for Blind Wave to react to UBW, so we must band together like the real life Knights of the Round Table and fight for a Fate continuation. STAND CHAMPIONS WE MUST SHOW OUR MIGHT NOW MORE THAN EVER BEFORE BROTHERS IN ARMS, STAND WITH ME!!!
When will they start reacting to this
It's replacing Stein's Gate. So probably Tuesday.
Votes in poll, sees results " Oh Thank GOD"
Same. For a second there, I was worried they'd be starting with UBW. Don't get me wrong, UBW is great, but it's definitely my least favourite of the two, and I personally believe that Zero is the best jumping-on point for Fate as a whole.
My two cents coming from a person who read the VN first and then watched the series with friends who have no knowledge and started with Zero, if they watch UBW first it will spoil Zero because they will roughly know the final outcome of Zero and thus how things will progress, as well as what happens to some characters in Zero. If they watch Zero first, it spoils the "mystery/surprise" behind some characters. Frankly, they are all mild spoilers and do not take away much of the enjoyment either way - my friends still enjoyed the heck out of UBW and HF. I might go so far to recommend Zero first because it does a better job at setting up new viewers to the lore and system of the series, as well as being an all-round great installment. The reveal of the core mystery/conflict in UBW is not spoiled and the "spoiler" for HF is mild because there is so much more in terms of appeal to HF. If Blindwave doesnt follow up to the Fate series, then watching Zero alone is a better idea. If they follow up, Zero wont take away much of the enjoyment from UBW or HF. My friends shared it even elevates the experience because you know the ""backstory weight" of certain characters. Either way, glad that they're reacting to this!
Yeah, I always tell people to just ignore any worried about spoilers, and just start with zero if they prefer seinen or ubw if they prefer shounen.
Im pretty sure that if they watch fate/zero they will want to watch fate/stay night
UBW servents are better then zero Hercules is better than berserker cu is better then diarmuid medea is better than rais archer is better than gilgamesh Medusa is better than Alexander like I mean waver sucks compared to Shiniji and saber is better than saber the only servent that zero that UBW does not is hundred persona and we can't forget Grail-kun is best girl
Dude. Servant identities are spoilers. One of the character identities you just listed is a major reveal in the last episode of zero.
The answer is sort of easy, but it must be well fundamented: Would you rather watch Star Wars starting with the original trilogy or with the prequels? I have two arguments for starting with Fate/stay night, and I don't want to make me sound important, but I have read both sources, and also fansubbed some "Fate" series in the past. -First argument: Fate/stay night is a mystery series. As you may known, Fate/stay night is originally a Visual Novel (like Steins;Gate), and these stories benefit from unraveling key plot point through the story. F/SN has three routes: Fate, Unlimited Blade Works and Heaven's Feel. The three routes must be played in that order, and mysteries from "Fate" can be resolved in "UBW" and the same applies for Heaven's Feel. If you start first with Fate/Zero, many KEY plot points would be laid out as a matter of course, because Zero assumes you already watched/read F/SN. -Second argument: Fate/Zero is a prequel. From a literary point of view, prequels ARE sequels because they're based from another established and existing work. Much like Star Wars, prequels add to the existing work, and their biggest appeal is to know how things happened for the main story to be as it is. If you start first with Zero, you will thematically kill Fate/stay night before it even starts. Because Zero spoils key plot points for Fate/stay night, but the reverse doesn't happen. As a conclusion, I can say that by starting with Zero, Fate/stay night will lose its shock value. Because the "mysteries" of the mystery series will be lost (the prequel assumes you already know stuff), and because Fate/stay night lays the foundations lore-wise for every other "Fate" series out there. As Zero assumes you already know stuff, it won't explain everything in detail like Fate/stay night does.
Fate Zero actually goes to great lengths in explaining how the Holy Grail War works. I don't even understand your point. Gen Urobochi penned Zero pretty much to be a standalone series on to itself, with a great setup for UBW at the end at that. The VN is different from the anime. I think that is where you are most confused.
I abstain! I have seen neither so will watch along with BW. Why am I here then? I don’t know.
You're here because we are a family son. We all suckle on Erics sweet tender teet. We all nibble the course hairs of Calvins beard. We all moan along with Erin. We all feel Ricks firm grip. We all call Shane 'Daddy'.
Watching Zero since it takes place 1st just makes sense and I have full confidence that Fate can win another poll.
Noob question very new to their channel: will this be in English dub or sub? Sub is really great because the Japanese VAs bring a lot of character to the various characters
They only react to dubs
UBW spoils Zero and vice versa. Zero is a better show by a long shot. Do we really have to argue with this?
There's NO way UBW spoils Zero, it's like saying Shrek 3 spoils Shrek 1. Nonsense.
I watched Zero first, then UBW
i dont care about the mild spoliers they have for each other, zero is just a better show for reactions then ubw imo
Zero, easy choice. Sooooo nuch better than UBW
Don't mind which one wins first since both series spoil each other. Zero is the better show anyways
It's IMPOSSIBLE for the main work to spoil a prequel, which is a sequel in literary terms.
Looks like zero is gonna win which is disappointing. Not because it's a bad show but because it's a prequel it takes away some of the mystery the guys would discuss about in UBW. It's like playing KH 358/2 Days before KH2. Yeah chronologically it happens first but it takes away plot twist you would have enjoyed had you done it the other way. Tbh though I'm more of a start from the horrible Fate Stay Night show cause...release order lol.
Okay. Tell me. If they watched UBW first, what could they discuss about Zero later on down the line?
Hi, just wanted to tell guys about Dr. Stone, again!! Please react to it!! Someone get their attention to this anime so that at least it gets on a poll!!
Reminder, they wont watch both. Fate needs to win 2 polls back to back, which can be done but isnt guranteed
wait really? well damn i wish ubw won then
Zero hype!
ZERO ZERO ZERO ZERO
I started watching Unlimited Bladeworks because a friend told me. Yes, its basically the sequel to Zero, but if you start UBW, the story telling is like Attack on Titan. By that I mean, you are missing the key information, but when you get it, it makes so much sense.
Totally agree with you. To watch Zero first is like to be told "Zeke and Eren are brothers" from the S3 start.
hey as long as they are both made by ufotable you can watch them both. Dean/stay night doesnt have a good rep by anime watchers. Fate/zero and UBW are both good but I prefer UBW, just because I think it will play in nicely after steins;gate, also personal bias ofc.
It's been a while since i watched the 2006 Fate/Stay Night anime but the difference between that and UBW is that the quality of animation is not as good as UBW and it had ( i think) a slightly different ending (or route) than UBW. In my opinion, i would skip the 06 series and watch UBW instead. Hardcore Fate fans, please correct me if i'm wrong lol
Fate Zero is like a prequel of the fate series; it’s a different story, so yes, not the same ending lol
I’ve been planning on watching the Fate series for sometime now. I need a little help when with the continuity. When it comes to the 06 F/S Night and UBW, is it a similar situation to FMA & FMAB? I heard the 06 series wasn’t really good, so I can just skip it, right?
They’re both really good. Fate Zero is like a prequel to UBW, the stories are connected, but you don’t have to watch one to understand the other
Okay, this is getting kinda ridiculous. We have a poll with over 4200 participants (at time of posting) and about 3400 want Zero over UBW. We only have 370 comments right now. And people act like it's a hotly debated topic among entrenched fan camps whereas the large majority want Zero and a few people are mad their favorite show didn't win and are posting comments with some harebrained reasoning why Zero shouldn't be watched first.
well i mean because it is, the dispute has been going on for over a decade now you will always find it in threads lol
Please one day do the Toaru series or A Certain Magical Index/A Certain Scientific Railgun/A Certain Scientific Accelerator.
At the bottom of my heart i would LOVE for them to experience Fate with FSN (main series) and then Zero (prequel) as thats how it was intended, however due to the nature of Ufotable animating Zero first than UBW/HF they should start there as a anime only not to mention its the BETTER anime adaptation tbh as shirou suffers from bare inner dialogue compared to his VN counterpart, story wise with the 3 routes FSN takes the cake 100% but anime adaptation wise Zero takes it the Studio Deen adaptations were handled poorly despite having some of the best OST of them all, they tried meshing all 3 routes into one towards the end yuck
JUST DO IT TIMER BASED, COPYRIGHT WILL GET YOU OTHERWISE
Lol, it doesn't really matter what you should watch first cause it will be confusing as hell anyways, the only way to get everything is to read the visual novel otherwise, prepare to go online and search for a bunch of important stuff that the show doesn't address.
Did we even needed this poll? Its obvious the older one has to be watched first.
Yeah, Fate Zero is definitely what they're going to be reacting to first... I'm really looking forward to it :D Hopefully the poll for the next anime after that will be UBW.
I cant believe this is happening!!! Fate Zero is such an amazing show!!! Glad we will likely start at the chronological beginning
react to BLEACH !!!!!
I am just grateful that we're finally at this point and are welcoming these guys to the Fate universe. This ridiculous debate tends to turn away people interested in the franchise more often than not. I'll be happy with whatever result we get from this poll. We all wind up in the same place in the end as fans despite which series we decide to start with.
If only we had more like you man. People seem so oblivious to why this makes fate as infamous as it is, it doesn't have to be, though too late for it to not deserve that reputation.
I honestly think you should have put more then these two, because I would have said stay night 2006 first, zero second and then stay night unlimited blade work 2014 third. since you only put these two options I picked Zero.
The 2006 adaptation is really not good, and even if they had put, everyone would still vote for the other two.
If you start with Zero you will get spoiled the biggest plot twist in the whole Fate/Stay Night story. People started with Zero because it was the only anime-option at the time, that has changed in the last 10 years.
Not really though (concerning plot twists). If you're talking about the grail then that works both ways. If they know about it from UBW first then it's no longer a surprise in Zero.
ZERO!!!!!!!!!!!
It's Zero to start. That's how it's aired, that's how it makes sense to watch it. Watching UBW first would be confusing as all hell, and would probably end up ruining your reaction to Zero. It's like having an annoying fanboy spoil half the series (while arguing that they didn't spoil anything) and continuously posting things like "I CAN'T WAIT FOR EPISODE XYZ". Anyone recommending you watch UBW first is also probably the type of person who also expects you to read through the entire visual novel as well. (Which is a pretty ridiculous expectation)
You're are using the airing release order as a reference but using the source material release order is not valid?
It's truly a weird one. I personally don't think Zero is the best place to start a journey into the Fate franchise (for me it was the last thing I watched after playing the VN and watching the other anime), but can understand people wanting them to do that given how great it is. But it's also a shame it spoils some stuff if they were to go into UBW or others after. I guess in some way it's kind of like deciding whether to have someone start Star Wars at Episode 4 or with the prequels, you could do it either way, one way spoils some stuff but it also still works, it's just different than what a majority would have experienced.
In the case of Fate, I'd argue that the minority are those involved in the VN and the anime itself has had more viewers globally although I can't say for certain. The anime adaptations have their own watch order (release dates) just as the VN has it's own order; they're separate productions and one shouldn't effect the watch order of the other. Those that really love the series after watching the anime will move onto the VN and those that love it but don't care for the VN will skip over it being content with their experience regardless.
LOOK AT THIS!!! This is the official wiki for the Fate series watch order. https://www.reddit.com/r/fatestaynight/comments/df8rvo/rfatestaynights_official_viewing_order_guide_v2/. From what it says here I recommend watching UBW first. Also someone told me this and I thought this could help you guys -> Zero is a prequel written with the perspective that the reader/watcher already knows the story from the 3 routes. So it takes all the plot twists from these stories as known information to build the story up. Starting with it would greatly negatively impact your experience with the other animes.
That's just reddit and it's a post created by a moderator for that reddit and his word isn't "official" by any means. I've seen other posts just like that before Heaven's Feel was ever announced that were "official" on reddit that had to be edited after Heaven's Feel part 1 came out; that post is no different and it's "official" status is exclusive to that reddit. Gotta go, I've got work.
If you consider the VN's. The route would be Fate-->UBW-->HF-->Zero This is just a no-brainer. Do not recommend anyone to watch Zero first if they have interest in reading the VN. Zero should be watched after finishing the entirety of the FSN. It casually spoils so much impactful info in just 2 episodes that normally you'll never learn until the mid/late-HF, 40-50 hours into the VN btw. However, being an anime only changes things. The 2006 adaptation is completely garbage, as not only it mixes 3 routes, it also contains some anime original scenes that makes absolutely no sense considering its original intent was to adapt the Fate route. Plus the animation is just, bad. So, which entry point should someone take if they doesn't want to watch the 2006 series and also they doesn't want to read the VN? As much as I dislike it, my bet would be on Fate/Zero right now. It is a solid standalone anime even if you doesn't want to continue with other Fate works. But with UBW, you'll get 1/3 of the story. It will feel incomplete if you only watch the anime version and be done with it. Because some FSN characters shine in one route and they are literally nothing in the other routes. Although my opinion might change with the upcoming HF3 movie. UBW-->HF-->Zero would be a great alternative that way, even though you'll miss the world-building of the Fate route.
I'm sad. Why are you ignoring Hollow Ataraxia in your initial route. ;_;
Zero all the way
either is good but I voted Zero first because I think you’ll be able to enjoy that series “as is” episode by episode. I watched the prequel second and I found myself constantly thinking how it linked to Stay/Night, instead of just enjoying it bit by bit.
Guys, as the person who gave you those Blu-rays which Aaron unceremoniously dropped (See Mailbag 70), do not. I repeat DO NOT watch FATE/Zero before watching the original Fate/Stay Night 2006 version(which you have the Blu-Rays of). It would be like watching The Legend of Korra before watching Last Airbender. Can it be done? Yes, technically, but the series is very much an intermediate point plot/lore-wise. It, like Legend of Korra, acts like it's viewers have stepped into that world before and know how it works. And it heavily spoils several big plot points of the original series. Watch them in this order: FATE/Stay Night, FATE/Zero, FATE/Stay Night Unlimited Blade Works. The original series (although not as good as the other 2) does a FAR better job at easing newcomers into the FATE world. So please, start with the original first. This isn't going to be a popular opinion with a lot of people. Mostly because the quality of FATE/Zero & Unlimited Blade Works when compared to the original is like night & day but watching them in this order really will give you the best viewing experience.
I do remember that mailbag and the message you put with it. Thanks so much for sending it, my wallet still feels the hole it took to get these Blu Rays so I feel that effort. I definitely don't agree with you, but hell if it wasn't for you we might never have gotten this far with these polls. This lovely fella made a big monetary sacrifice. But seriously man, surely we both know how chaotic this stuff has been and gets. This poll is the best way to settle it.
The thing is: The ACTUAL beginning of the story was poorly adapted (F/SN 2006). Becasuse of that most people recommend the prequel which actually came later (Fate/Zero). Is it the best way to get into fate? No, the best way would be to read the novel so you can learn how it really all started. But then again, if you are just interested in watching anime i'd say Fate/zero is the way to go.
Yeah I can't argue against that, The vast majority just want to watch/react to the anime though and FZ is definitely the one to start with in regards to that.
People keep yelling that Zero is so much better than UBW. Well I agree that Zero is written better, I think UBW had more hype and thrilling/action packed scenes. Honestly I love both equally in their own way. Just excited for you guys to get introduced to Fate!
I mean...if we are only talking about the anime i'd also say that Zero is better just because it's a standalone story unlike UBW which is originally only 1/3 of the actual story of Fate/Stay Night. So imo Zero is better anime-wise while source material-wise UBW is better
well, Zero IS the first chronologically so I'd say start there.
Please for the next anime poll don't have Gurren Lagann and Kill la Kill on the same poll... people split their votes between them
... I hope you realize that that is the entire concept of a poll, right? People vote for what they'd like to watch. Hence why there are people who vote for different things. They're even nice enough to let you vote three times.
Everyone has their own opinion when it comes to Fate. Personally the first thing I watched in the series was UBW and it is still my favourite anime to date. I liked zero and would love to see you guys react to it as you should see it before UBW (unlike I did). However I want to see you guys react to UBW so bad.
Remember guys, once they finish Zero and put another poll up with UBW in it, we'll need to band together and vote for that so they can finish their journey!
I could be wrong but I thought they said they were definitely watching both for this reaction. They just weren’t sure which one to start with.
Please do hear me out and take a minute of your time then you will be convinced aswell as to why they should start with UBW and it's not about how good you think 1 is over the other. Did you watch Fantastic Beasts and then went into Harry Potter? did you read the Hobbit and then watched LoTR? Did you watch Prometeus then Alien? Did you watch Star Wars 1 2 3 then 4 5 6 or 4 5 6 and then 1 2 3? Yep you see where I'm getting at. The Fate franchise was originally released as a playable visual novel with 3 routes: Fate, UBW, and Heaven's feel. Now Fate sucks because Studio Deen made it terrible by changing plot and terrible animation so you skip that. You want to start with Ubw then Heaven's feel then Zero (then Ataraxia or Fate if they make them and remake Fate). Zero spoilers everything about Fate, UBW and Heaven's feel and that alone ruins UBW COMPLETELY !!! So many people told me that they did not enjoy UBW and that was ALWAYS because they already knew the Holy grail war was a facade in UBW and that some characters are already involved like Gilgamesh and the Priest or Sakura being a mage and not a powerless girl. I'm not gonna say more spoilers but you sure know what else it spoils. Watching UBW doesn't spoiler Zero by almost anything since we don't know much about Kiritsugu and the Einzbern. Watching Heaven's feel spoilers a little about Zero but nothing that makes it not worth anymore to watch. Then they could watch extra stuff like the Oath under snow movie but that's not important please reconsider your decision guys.
^SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS dude control yourself.... what the heck, I'm kind of new to patreon so I don't know if there are any mods but someone delete this if they can.... The poll is the deciding factor in what they watch and right now it's Fate Zero by a landslide and for good reason, what if one of the guys at Blindwave reads those spoilers.... Seriously, think of someone other than yourself; don't ruin the experience for the reactors.
Definitely Fate/Zero first. It is technically a prequel but it was animated first and it is a good introduction to the world and story. Plus Unlimited Blade Works uses scenes from Zero that would be confusing otherwise.
If UBW is adapted first those scenes will just be seen as they intended to be: dangling plotpoints that are used to enhance the current story and to open up opportunities for future explorations (i.e. Zero)
I made an account just for this, lol. I love the Fate/Zero series and I love Blindwave!!! Time for my darlings to meet up and have a playdate.
though i would love very much to see you react to the awesomeness that is in UBW i still want you guys to have the complete story, Zero is the beginning of the series and as many would expect things elaborated more in Zero, you still can watch UBW without a knowing about the existence of Zero but from watching the guys i think they might have questions found only in zero
Fate Stay Night Makes the most since to STart because plot is easiest to fallow. Then do a poll for the others. I still think Steinsgate 0 shouldnt need a poll and im more suprised the fandom didnt want to finish the Steinsgate story.
I only watched a little bit of Fate/Zero 2011 version it was good just I was confused on which group was the good guys lol and then some of the lore I had to look up cause I didn't get certain parts
Hint: There aren't any good guys.
I made a patreon account just for this, rather hoped that the time I would make an account would be the time I was able to donate to you guys. I also appreciate the public poll to give me this vote. Anyway this is quite a subject of course, a nightmarish one to boot, someone will be upset no matter what. I consume a lot of this franchise, but I don't think that should mean anything anyway. People talk about this stuff like there's an actual answer to it, get extremely adamant about things and I've seen it so many times by now and its tiresome and can get quite bad. It is an unfortunate universal constant about this series. In the end though, while I definitely have my preference and have made my vote, people over complicate this stuff this series is way more approachable than people think it is. Many instalments were made with accessibility in mind, being convoluted is just how the franchise is and if some instalments succeed or fail to be standalone or franchise entry pieces is often and simply subjective. With that exceedingly more important thing out the way, and feel free to ignore the rest of this personal opinion stuff. Fate/Zero I adore to a fault, I adored it so much I got into the rest of the franchise and perhaps regret it, I'm not much of a fan of the rest but a strong premise and a shared universe with Zero keeps me here, faulty investment. Not to be too harsh to the rest of it anyway, of course this is just me and I have already experienced flak for this anyway. Its a fun thing regardless, just don't stress over it. This thing has one of my absolute favourite dubs anyday, I'm always a dub sucker but damnit this cast and their performances are so bloody stellar. Course I realise I'm saying this here when this place is notorious already for its many sub advocates, but it can't hurt to have a rare vocal dub lover throw something out for once. I could say a lot more, but why pertain to anything in a show you are perhaps just about to watch? Or if the vote swings another way, then why wsay anything about a show you are perhaps EVENTUALLY going to get to? The vote will do its job, anything more than it is excessive and adds to the chaotic comments as is. Be well, and if the vote does go to Zero then I can't wait to watch it for the; I really don't know what number I'm on but perhaps 24th time. Hell even my mother loves this show, don't ask how that happened, cool moms exist and she's up there. Hell I think she likes other franchise instalments much more than I do.
Oh god I did not intend for this comment to pop out so LARGE.
Fate 2006 would turn me off the series to be honest so I'm glad they start with zero. I watched junk putty watch zero first and then ubw and he was surprised and understood everything from zero so I think they will do just fine.
I miss junk putty
Was hoping for GL ... but I love fate zero so next time GL ..... hopefully KLK wont be on the same poll since it might split the vote between those two
Hope someone explains to them the different timelines for Stay Night cause I can't haha
Fate = Romance route UBW = Hero route Heaven's Feel = Hero V2/ Horror route
If you were going to do Fate Stay Night 2006 then I would say that, no where near the best but is probably the best start. Then Fate/Zero the UBW form 2014.
I know I'm in the minority on this one, but you really should watch Fate/Stay Night by Studio Deen first. It's easily the worst Fate adaptation, yes, but it provides a better explanation for the show's concepts since it's the first arc you play in the original visual novel. By skipping it, certain concepts of the world will either be skipped over or briefly explained in Unlimited Blade Works, and since each route focuses on different characters each time, you'll miss out on a lot of Saber's characterization and growth. It may not be on the poll and my words probably won't make a difference, but I figured I should say something about it. At the very least, you should watch it on your own time if you aren't going to react to it.
the pool is not available in my region, thanks vpn
nah i can see i voted for zero actually, i'm using vpn to vote and replly right now
My friend told me to start with Fate/Kaleid... so yeah, that was my introduction to the fate series, lol.
LOL
Ufotable made specific changes to UBW to even reference Zero, Zero goes first in anime release order.
Fate/Zero, One of the best animes and protagonists ever
I don't know how much of the Fate series they know, but I guess Fate Zero felt special to me because I had seen FSN. It's probably best to ask the opinion of someone who has seen Zero before any of the other Fate series.
Really fate?
either is good and bad since both spoil each other I say go with zero first
I've said this on Youtube but I'll say it again here. watch based on the release order, so you SHOULD watch Fate/Stay Night (2006) first. BUT because there's only 2 choices, watch Fate/Zero first.
If they reacted to 2006 version, it would probably be the worst anime they ever reacted to lol. Fate zero be that masterpiece though imo.
Zero, of course
Please god let them watch it subbed, the voice for Saber alone is reason enough to watch it subbed Dx
I have, I've always preferred the sub and the main reason being "Kiritsugu's moment".... There is no version of that moment in my opinion that compares to the original VA in that scene. Everyone knows what moment I'm referring to that has seen the show, the original VA in that scene did an outstanding job and it falls short in every other dubbing. I've listened to all of the other variants
Zero for the win!
Look guys. Ufotable made Zero first and then UBW and then the Heavens Feel movies. That is their intended watch order. That is why there are references and cameos to Zero in UBW and HF that you just won't get otherwise. If you're talking source material, sure. Visual novel before the Zero novels but you also have to keep in mind that the Zero novels aren't considered canon to the FSN VN.
Let's also not forget that what UBW spoils about Zero is waaaaay worse in terms of Blindwave theorycrafting and after ep discussions than what Zero spoils about UBW.
You could theorically start with both, but Unlimited Blade Works seems to have been made knowing you watched Fate Zero.
It's the other way round in fact
I mean it doesn’t really matter much, just pick either one. In the long run you’ll still be playing catch up with references/callbacks they make from either show, novel, movie or game.
Please unlimited blade workssss
Zero came first in terms of release, but, as a prequel, it does reveal some spoilers/mysteries in UBW. Just look up the watch order on the official subreddit for fate, they explain why... Also rip the dub in this show... going to be very cringe but I always manage somehow
the dub isnt that bad imo
Yay!!!
I watched Fate/ Stay Night, but I don't think it was either of these...
I watched Stay Night (the 1st one) before and it made Zero even more interesting. Unlimited I havent seen because half of it is the same. But if it has to win another poll I rather them see Zero since I think is the best one individually.
Ok yeah, I get it. Fate zero should be something you experience after the stay night series...........if you’re going through the visual novels and manga. These ufotable adaptations where meant to be watched in order of appearance. Besides that, real talk, there is literally no where to enter this universe without spoiling one part or another
Zero is the one written with the intended dramatic irony, not UBW
It has been decided. Can't wait for them to start Zero!
ZERO FTW
Fate/Zero to go!
I would advise Zero because it would more than likely produce more engaging discussions from the crew compared to UBW. If they're going into UBW blind, they wouldn't fully grasp certain aspects that would lead to a greater discussion. If they end up watching only one fate anime, Zero is also the better one to watch I think.
Yeah most VN somehow has the tendency to want to ease the player into the world first before going with the heavy hitting stuff. SG was lucky that it is inherently really funny so that carries the first 9 episodes nicely, before scaling up fantastically. For a YouTube show that depends on retaining weekly viewer interest, UBW doesn't really have that advantage early on.
People's watch order of the fate series in a nutshell. "Just because you are correct doesn't mean that you are right." ~shero
LOL
I'd rather have them start with UBW than with Zero and that's coming from someone who started with and loves Zero. Star Wars analogy aside, I do still feel having UBW as as starter makes more sense b/c Zero does feel like an addendum at times - an amazing one at that - but one nonetheless.
The fans of the fate franchise are stupid as fuck it seems. They want you to watch the entire series completely out of order rather than by what was released first and intended to be consumed first. They should be glad Fate/ won at all since it only won because you listed the poll as Fate/Zero.
Not sure what you mean but the "release" dates here are completely backwards. UBW was created first, as it was literally part of the original game. They were ADAPTED out of order, but watching them in the order that they were animated has no bearing on when the original stories were released.
Let me be real honest with you guys. Fate Zero is the only great fate anime. The rest are mediocre to below average.
I think UBW is alright and the recent FGO: Babylonia was good (mostly because of the fights and their animation/art rather than actual story or characters lol). The rest are meh. But yeah Zero is the only top tier one imo.
nice, eithers good to be fair. I like them about the same amount. But maybe ubw to get them more into it first? hard to say.
Fate Zero has the better story Fate UBW has the superior fight animations Zero will likely be better for their "theory crafting"
So to reiterate my point again If Blindwave is just going to watch 1 of the two: Zero If Blindwave is willing to commit long term: UBW, then the three HF movies, then Zero. Going from Zero straight to UBW is stupid because it fucks up HF which is arguably the best part of this franchise that's not Atlantis
Fate/Zero, while technically a prequel, does so much to enhance Fate UBW that it's worth watching it first in order to get a better experience. Also, UBW 2014 was kind of made with the assumption that the audience had already need F./Z.
UBW was made with the assumption that you've watched Zero and Zero was with the assumption that you had watched stay night (which imo was pretty eh)
The only problem with the fate franchise is no matter where you start one show will spoil the other (and I say this as a huge Fate fan)
Zero was literally written with the intent that you already know, it's a damn prequel. The reverse is not true. Zero is pretty great as a standalone, but watching it first really ruins the impact of the rest of the series.
Zero sets up the setting better while UBW builds off of it tbh. I'm voting Zero.
haven't seen zero so i'll go with zero
Alright guys, pretty obvious Zero is gonna win. Now the important thing is, we have to make sure UBW wins the next poll so that they can continue the story straight on without a break in-between.
I’m real disappointed that they’ll get spoiled on the heavens feel stuff, but it’s inevitable at this point.
Fate zero and be done with it
All these people voting for a goddamn prequel before the main, legitimate material that it's intended to SUPPLEMENT, are ridiculous.
How the fuck is it a supplement if they aired it before UBW? HOW?! Could you watch UBW 3 years before it released?
I'd say Watch Zero than go into UBW, they were made basically back to back and work pretty well as a continuous story
i agree with this 100%
Here's the fandom popular opinion about this ancient argument: There be spoilers for the other shows whichever you start. With that said, Fate/ Zero first because that's a good origin story, Fate/ Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works second because it's a good follow up and a freakin visual orgasm. Don't even think about watching the Fate/ Stay Night anime. And then onto any other route you want from there. That's it.
^This 100%
So when it comes to Steins;Gate they're two different shows but when it comes to the Fate series as long as one "Fate" series won they're now both interchangeable?
No, stupid
I watched Fate/Stay Night - Unlimited Blade Works (both seasons) first. Then I watched Fate Zero (which is a prequel to the formerly mentioned). Make your selection based on Star Wars Movies. We all watched Star Wars Episode IV to VI first. Then We watched the Prequel trilogy i.e. Star Wars Episode I - III. Please Do not judge Fate Zero series based on my above mentioned reference. its not bad as Star Wars prequel trilogy. in fact in some ways i would say Fate Zero is very much better than UBW (Unlimited Blade Works). Its just on your own decisions that if you want suspense in UBW, watch it first. if you want to know everything that is going on watch it second. Finally, just to tell you that it is an amazing series and please watch both of them. P.S. also after this watch Fate Apocrypha as it is set in an alternate reality in the same universe.
If we're going in order Fate/Zero should be first chronologically.
Personally I think Fate/Zero is the best Fate. The others are ok
Fighting words when Emiya Gohan is clearly better
Lancer is dead
Watch Fate/stay night. As in the anime adaption of the first route of the VN. Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works is the adaption of the second route. Fate/Zero is the prequel to the Fate/stay night game/shows.
Technically the DEEN version is a weird mashup of all 3 routes despite being predominantly Fate.
no option for the 2006 version? my preference would've been Fate/Stay Night 2006 then Fate/Zero then FSN: Unlimited Blade works
2006 was a controversial adaptation. Ufotable's take on setting the world is better in Zero than 2006's route.
The first thing I watched from the fate series is Fate/Zero, still the only thing of the franchise I saw, it's just really good.
Arguing about this is what will lead to the next world war. You heard it here first.
I would have gone with the 2006 them Ulbws but hey what you going to do
I agree but 2006 is just a bad show. I'd rather them have a good first impression of the story and characters, even if it means a bit of a messy introduction to the series.
Fate Zero is the prequel to Stay Night, it provides background to characters and motivations and looks fantastic in the process. Definitely recommend starting with Zero.
Prequel means it's written assuming you've already gone through the introduction of FSN first. Unintended damatic irony doesn't work well here
Idc either way ill watch with you guys either way even though I don't like Fat series at all, I enjoy your reactions and commentary so I stay.
Zero is obviously going to win, but I think UBW is a perfectly fine starting point. It was my entry point into the series and I had no problem following what was going on.
UBW is a good series in my opinion and though I am in love with Rin, but UBW series has far more flaws and more childish and for slightly younger audience than Zero with its far more complex and non teenager characters and philosophies and Zero predates UBW both chronologically and in production date.
Zero is the one. Spoilers are minimum and watching Zero with no knowledge of how stuff will turn out is DOPE
No, the spoilers are not "minimum". Zero is full of them
Technically, you should watch Fate/Stay Night (2006), then Zero, then UBW. People keep forgetting about the original by Studio Deen, which needs to be watched before UBW.
They keep forgetting because it wasn't really good, especially compared to UBW in a similar setting and Zero which is superior to every other Fate shows.
Chronologically speaking fate/zero after Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works
What they should do is watch Carnival Phantasm and have no idea what's going on like I did lol
Fuck it, Emiya Gohan is the correct starting choice
Frankly, Unlimited Blade Works is not an appropriate introduction to the franchise IMHO - you'll be completely lost.
Yeah it assumed that you've already seen Fate (not Zero)
We don't need to worry about UBW being watched because it won't win a poll in 2+ years since there's way too many better Animes out there... Fate/Zero on the other hand, pretty solid.
Fate Zero first then Fate Stay Night UBW.
Went on imdb, looked at the ratings, notice that fate/zero had a better rating so I voted for fate/zero. Excited to watch with you guys.
Never in my wildest dreams did I think BW would ever get to Fate stuff. It's awesome! That being said, Fate/Zero is probably the better option, since the plot is more self contained.
No way they're finally doing it! Can't wait for this. Who's going to be reacting?
As someone who was somewhat familiar with the premise of fate/stay night I really enjoyed watching UBW and then Zero as a prequel, but I feel like people going in with no idea would probably have an easier time getting into zero since it introduces the world a lot better.
Fate/Zero is the right choice especially since there is no guarantee they will watch the other animes in the franchise. Zero is the most self-contained plot-.
Yeah if I have to choose only 1 for them to watch, then Zero is the correct choice. The story of FSN needs its 3rd act in HF which they clearly won't bother with.
Bruh, it sucks that both of these are the wrong place to start. Fate/stay Night 2006 is the real starting place whether you like it or not.
The real starting place is the Visual Novel, the 06 anime is an ungodly mess of all 3 routes and is better forgotten
i hope UBW wins the next poll
I think it will, if the same people vote for it next time
I saw Zero first and I think it goes better to watch it first.
It was meant to be watched Zero first, then UBW. That's how Ufotable intended for it to be watched. Which is why the animated Zero before UBW, lol. If we were talking about Visual Novels on the other hand, then it's obvious, but we're not. We're talking about anime adaptations here. Fate/Zero establishes a lot of things, which leaves UBW room to not spend much time elaborating on it, because they had already established in Zero.
No. They animated Zero first because FSN had already got an adaptation at that point. You rarely see a title getting repeated adaptations. Also most of the setup was in Fate but TM decided not to adapt it properly again
UBW is meant to be first but it also works vice versa. It's kinda like what star wars did. Though I find it more enjoyable with zero then UBW
It is necessary for Fate/zero be seen first because UBW uses a lot of small reference from Zero in the entire story. Now if it was the first Fate by Studio Deen then I would have chosen that instead.
lmao literally nobody can ever agree with this show
watch zero first unlimited blade Works literally spoils the whole series of zero and ruins it if you watch unlimited blade works first.
No, it's the other way round, Zero spoils most of UBW plot twists and ruins the experience of watching UBW later
Fate Zero was on the poll and what we voted for. So that?
UBW should be first but I like Zero better!
Zero won so obviously Zero
zero, zero, zero
UBW first, Zero second
Zero is fine first man lol you guys calm down. They dont know the freaking story at all. What is it truly gonna spoil. If anything I thought fate/stay night made more sense to me when I watched zero first
Damn. I was so hoping that kill la kill would win. Trigger has such an amazing style when it comes to their animes
Why can't ppl just watch in a chronological order?
Because I don’t think there is one so they’re doing this
The Fate/zero anime is a great starting point (its where i started), And while there are some minor spoilers for elements of Heaven's Feel they don't ruin the story. The main reason people argue zero should be watched later is as a prequel you know how things end and that informs some of the tragic elements, like knowing Anakin will become Darth Vader in the prequels. But in my opinion zero works without that context and you can rewatch zero after seeing Stay Night to experience that context and make a 2nd watch more rewarding.
Fate/Zero!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
Zero is a prequel. Meaning the story is supposed to be told after Unlimited Blade Works.
Yeah, but UBW spoils the end of Zero, so the best order is chronological
Dammit. Was really hoping for Gurren Lagann. Ah well maybe next time.
Yeah me too but at least the promised Neverland is going to be ending it about 7 weeks so hopefully we'll get another chance to pick Gurren Lagann on the next anime poll.
Apparently its meant to be Unlimited Blade Works > Heaven's Feel > Zero. Zero is meant to be seen after Unlimited Blade Works. Even though its a prequel. Like Star Wars. Watch 4 and 5 first before the prequels! XD
>Zero is meant to be seen after Unlimited Blade Works. EVEN THOUGH its a prequel No. Zero is meant to be watched after Unlimited Blade Works BECAUSE it's a prequel
Haven't watched either but I choose the one that came first even though it's technically a prequel, excited to watch a new show(s since I'll watch both no matter what)
Just watch zero and call it a day.
zero first UBW the anime expect you to wach it first if you are not watching the 2006 version
Unfortunately, most of the voters here don't understand how prequels work. Under no circumstances should Zero be the first Fate series to watch
That's the studios fault for animating Fate/ Zero before UBW. Almost no one watched the original version of Stay Night so to most people who watch this series Fate/Zero is where it starts.
Fate zero then if you like that fate stay night unlimited blade works
Fate/Zero is a prequel that, yes the anime came before UBW, but it spoils everything in UBW which is the original story, Zero should be watched after UBW so you have context of what happened before.
The Ufotable anime adaptations and the VN are separate entities, neither should influence the watch order of the other. For the Ufotable adaptation... Zero comes first :)
BOOOOOOOOOOO Both suck
ok boomer
Fate Zero since there are a lot of references and spoilers within unlimited blade works
Nah, Zero is supposed to be consumed after you finished all 3 FSN routes
Both but zero is better
Since the 3rd HF movies won't be easily available until a year later it's hard to argue with the correct order just yet
No fate fan has been able to give me a good starting place smh
Not until the 3rd HF is out anyway
ZERO is chronologically timed BEFORE Unlimited Blade Works. I have heard you can watch either order, but in terms of which story originates first, ZERO is first. I do highly highly highly suggest you pick up UBW when you're finished though.
Zero is chronologically first, but UBW is base on the original VN. Watching Zero first is like starting with Phantom Menace first instead of A New Hope.
But Zero is better
Honestly you should do both starting with Fate/Zero then Ultimate Blade Works because there’s some things in UBW that Zero is needed to explain.
Zero is a prequal. In my opinion Zero is the best Fate, UBW is a great follow up, then I would go.back and watch Stay/Night
I knew Gurren Lagann would never win, I wanted to believe in the me that believes in Gurren Lagann
Seriously those guys would love TTGL to bits. Can't believe it hasn't won a poll yet
So does this mean it won? Or is this just incase?
It won
can’t wait for u mongrels to meet you’re king, ur gonna love this show
Zero imo is better than Unlimited Blade Works, but if want to watch them both you need to watch UBW before Zero. The first episode of Zero spoils all of Stay Night. So imo is UBW-Stay Night-Zero.
Zero was released before UBW and is canonically before it. If they watch UBW before Zero it spoils it. and yes im aware of the original anime/game.
Fate zero first but after that we need to fight to have fate stay night UBW.
Sadly Better Call Saul and Steins;Gate 0 are given a track record of follow ups not winning their polls Edit: Also OPM season 2, but you've got a point, may UBW has a better chance than the rest
Zero is amazing and it’s the prequel
Zero is the prequel, but parts of it feel like they're meant to be seen after UBW to preserve the narrative and "twists". It's kinda like starting with Episode I or Episode IV of Star Wars, there's no easy answer in my mind.
YES!!!!!!!! Fate/Zero!!!