Short Rest: C3 Ep. 43: Blood and Wine

wife worm, gf spider

Listening from the future (2025) just came to say yall missed the opportunity to make an Acid Bath reference

Emily once again stone cold guessing a major plot thing. Murph must've been puckering 😅

Crustaceans are bugs, bugs are icky. I respect spiders and their nobel work/function in the food chain, but if I see them inside, I can't handle the thought of where they are if I let them go. Outside, we are playing for the same team. I am pro pollinators, but even butterflies aren't cute up close.

Heads up: east coast ticks = Lyme disease. West coast ticks = Rocky Mountain fever. California = doesn’t have ticks

Murph I hate to say this but your parents were for sure wrong. New Jersey has black widows, rattlesnakes, copperheads, brown recluses... there was definitely a lot of stuff in the woods that could mess you up.

CHECK YOUR CREVICES for ticks and mind-controlling bugs

Why did Emily lie about the Mouser roll? She got a 33 from a 1d20+12? Did she neglect to mention a spent bardic or did Murph edit out a guidance or what?

Nice catch caldwell. The tony hawk symbol you're talking about is neversoft and the 'o' is a stabbed eye. Also jake needs to look at a silk moth. They are like teddy bears

“What’s the animal that’s tried the hardest to fuck you?” -Emily Axford, 2023

Didn't Brennan hack the mechanics for crown of candy? Surely poison came into play.... like didn't the water blade instantly mean Lou was poisoned but because he succeeded the con save he was able to get help? I can't remember but I feel like he just rewrote mechanics....

Oh my god no joke I just saw a spider with green eyes in my backyard. She was beautiful. And fast… 🥲

Spiders are fucking adorable y'all

Aren't there some poison mechanics that act like something conditional like exhaustion? Disadvantage on checks and such until restoration or long rest

The symbol of gruumsh is called the unwinking eye and it is very, very similar. No sword, but it is a bleeding eye.

Can anyone help me find the RSS feed for Short Rest? I have failed many intelligence checks on this one because every help page (even the Patreon support ones) describe a layout that is different than what I'm seeing....

For the poisoner/poison issue, I recommend Crown & Crown's 'Herbarium' supplement - loads of botanical stuff and fun ways of creating poisons. Plus it has a Poisoner Rogue subclass which could be fun? https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/417928/Herbarium-A-Botanical-5e-Supplement

Y'all are forgetting you can coat your weapons in D&D and I'd say a vial would probably be worth about 5 dips, maybe more if they have a bigger one or smaller weapon. I kinda wanna make a homebrew class for this now. Or rogue subclass

I am ride-or-die for almost every bug. I love bugs. They're the absolute coolest

I would absolutely buy a bottle of red herring wine if y’all made it

i can't believe the reptile show story has been cut short i need to hear it once more!!

The way I have homebrewed poisons that are ingested as opposed to the types that are dipped on weapons, is that the poison effectively does Bestow Curse (https://roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Bestow%20Curse#content) Then I just change that wisdom saving throw to a Con saving throw and set the DC to the proficiency of the brewer... so the poison doesn't do more when made by someone more talented, but is instead more difficult to resist. And then just treat the condition exactly like they are cursed, and choose one of the options for the curse as the poison effect. And then I have them roll their full hit dice each night they remain poisoned, and in the morning after a long rest, they have HP equal to what they rolled to start the day. Never had one that really was a threat to outright kill the drinker though. Then I allow a remove curse, greater restoration, and any healing spell of 6th level or higher to cleanse the poison affect, I have also done one that just lasted 1d4+3 days.

If you’re looking for poison-related stuff, may I suggest the Tome of Heroes from Kobold Press? It’s not a class, it’s a feat called Hedgecraft, but there’s a list of various fantasy plants and what they do also listed in the book (pg. 185 for the feat, pg 262 to learn about the plants). Happy hunting!

I heard it said once that Nature is harsh but it isn’t cruel, cruel implies intention. ALSO, I suggest listening to the 9/30/22 ep of This American Life to hear why we’re all wrong about Black Widow spiders.

No wonder my court cases never get picked, Jake is scared of me ;-; /joking

For your Madison show tomorrow- Ha Long Bay is delicious for lunch or dinner!!! (And close to the venue)

I'm going to stick up for our West Coast reptiles and say that at least our venomous snakes clearly warn you that they're there. When I lived on the East Coast I nearly stepped onto copperheads multiple times, quiet snakes are way scarier than rattlesnakes.

My banana ball python says hello!! his name is jericho and he is a very silly man!!

I live in a spider house too. My house looks haunted by the amount of spider webs and even in my classroom, we don’t kill spiders. That’s backfired a bit because we’ve had baby spiders dropping from the ceiling all day and my kids are not as cool with spiders as me.

I basically rent my parents basement and I've told everyone "I have a deal with the spiders. The rugged area and the surrounding furniture is my space, they can have the rest of the basement" and honestly for the most part they leave me alone. Evey so often I'll even feed then by swatting the fliers that wind up down there with us

Can you do a mixed bag where you all sit down for some afternoon tea and just have a chat with each other? It would be enjoyable to just listen to y’all’s conversations about whatever tangents you go down

I think the symbolism of the daggers in the eyes probably goes all the way back to Oedipus Rex and it’s honestly baller as hell

For Emily on her poisoner idea, the Blood Hunter class made by Matt Mercer has a Mutagen Craft subclass. I've been trying to do the same thing and this class does the best in my opinion

I literally just relistened to the DK island episodes that yall did, and its so funny having that callback in this short rest to the Reptile Super show that you guys talked about so much in those short rests

Murph wouldn’t objectify the orange top hat fairy, but would be horny for a spider 👀

I know the Grim Hollow supplement has a pretty good poisoner subclass.

The movie Emily was remembering was Un Chien Andalou, by Luis Bunuel and Salvador Dali

Caldwells joke of “because hes big and blue” was so funny and so glossed over

The knife through the eye is the symbol for paladin Oath of the Watchers in the dnd books i think! Just to avoid anyone else pulling up potentially scarring google images

Is anyone else shocked that Calder hasn't bent the knee to Jaina yet?

Could Cali had changed to a summer Eladrin to resist the heat?

Jake, saw you crushing some pickleball today. Keep that hustle up

I see the opportunity for a spin-off one shot. A opposite of Hot Boy Summer featuring Darrius or however it's spelled. Him and his old man friends fighting against the youth. Fighting a Children of the Corn.....Children of the Hedge .

I’m trying to do a workable poisoner build too and one thing I’m considering is actually Way of Mercy Monk—at level 6 you can poison for a round at the cost of 1 ki point. Still doesn’t do anything about how many creatures are resistant, but does mean you don’t have to spend hundreds of gold and all your downtime.

Possums can’t carry rabies, their body temperature is too low.

In dnd 3/3.5 poison affect the stats like dex and constitution. The effect is like a number of D6 substracs for a time so like purple worm poison is a first check for 3d6 and 1hour later in the game another check and another 3d6 so if the stat go to 0 you die

For the Poison Problem, I'd really recommend PF2E. Most Poison in that system is pretty cool, and does more than just damage.

I have had a connection with a jumping spider. I swear this teeny tiny creature was looking at me like it knew I was another attentive thing. It hung out on my hand for several minutes and even left and came back to my hand at one point. Some spiders are startlingly intelligent and these ones have eyes capable of seeing the moon in the sky. Spiders are beautiful indeed

Would the knife eye be the anti-watcher like (the cult of goliaths that worshipped the watcher that bev goofed) ?

Haven’t listened to the ep yet, but that title has got to be a partial Witcher reference I’m sure of it

Every animal is a cutie confirmed

So the film Emily mentioned about the eye getting sliced? I think it's Un Chien Andalou, a surrealist film by Luis Bunuel and Salvador Dali. Still feels like something Jodorowsky would have done!

Wait is Emily actually the trickster god Anansi (depicted as a spider)?

Caldwell with the Neversoft logo call back. Too bad Activision sucks and merged them with Infinity Ward because almost everybody left that studio to make Respawn with EA.

They are actually sand fleas cauldwell. Come to any Florida beach lol. And murph. Statistically speaking people will swallow 24 spiders in their life time. And as for the poison. What if you’re a monk. Stun them. Then poison them. Would that even be feasible?

Might wanna slap a light arachnophobia warning on this one. Some mild squirming on this end. But damn it if Jake can be a brave boy so can I

I have a corn snake named Margarine and she’s the cutest! She’s bright yellow- a butter morph. My new goal is to get y’all a photo of her somehow. Either at the nyc live show or sending one as a postcard to the P.O. Box🤔

We had a brown mantis near our house once, went out the back door and watched one land near the spider nest under the deck, land and punch a spider square in the face, and proceed to drag it away. Same species landed out front that summer, yoinked a grub from the ground, ans had a full boxing match with said grub.

I’m having an anxiety & panic ridden no-good day, thank you for uploading Naddpod, I need to think about fire giants and talking frogs for a little bit 💚🩵🖤

For cool poison stuff, check out Spheres 5e's Alchemy Sphere!

I've already sent you guys a cease and desist as the embodiment of Red Herring. The Red Herring character from a Pup named Scooby doo

Feel like poisoner would be a sick ranger subclass

My bug buddies are snails

Some homebrew poison ideas I've used: -Utilize the exhaustion mechanic (save each round until the poison is done, x-number of rounds, or the character dies from gaining levels of exhaustion). -poisons that don't begin to affect the character until x-number of hours after ingestion or infection. -poisons that get worse the longer they go untreated. -poisons that permanently (or semi-permanently) affect balance, health, or strength (reduce dex/str/con scores), possibly killing the character eventually. I also created a whole document/ruleset for harvesting ingredients and creating potions/poisons that I'd be happy to share.

Shrimps is bugs