Short Rest: C3 Ep. 10: To the Airship!

"You need nuts" Jake to Emily lol classic. I saw the Dark Knight high AF and loved the movie and refused to watch it again for fear of it losing reputation

All mentions of DMB hit different after *that* episode 💀

Drive fast enough on a hilly country road and you get the balls tingling too

I could listen to Emily sing Baby Snake on loop lol

OMG, Emily you’re awesome. I am coming from the far future so you’ll probably never read this but a friend of mine’s Dad was a musician and showed a bunch of us kids Frank Zappa when we were young and it was the greatest thing ever. Also a huge fan of Les Claypool. I know everything you are talking about!!

You can watch Avatar on mute and follow the entire story. It looks really pretty the first time because it's the shiniest turd ever polished.

I’m late to this as I’m relistening to this campaign with the short rest, I just signed up for Patreon. There’s definitely a slight tingle in your balls and stomach. Just like when you get hit in your balls, you feel it there and your stomach

I'm a 25 year old guy and the boondock saints still holds a sway over us, we watched it in college. The difference is, for instance, my freshman roommate had a poster of Dragonball Super instead of Fight Club

Emily, i'm making my way through the campaigns chronologically. I only know Night School by Zappa but I *want* to get into him - i really listen to everything (everything!) (including Primus ofc) so it feels like a rite of passage. Please if you see this, recommend me something. i love weird. i am open to what you want to recommend as a Zappa fan. thank you in advance! Feel free to short rest a reply as a nice easter egg once i'm caught up. you rule! weird girl icon <3

BoonDUCK saints.....

Can anyone give me the EP if they talk about their thoughts on Avatar 2?

Final fantasy 12 is my ABSOLUTE favorite but much like Em with Frank Zappa, I can't explain to people why they should like it.

Coming in two years late to say that Caldwell should go right ahead and listen to the Oysterhead record!

Rose to Murph for finding a mechanic on the fly to respond to the "can I mess up the door" idea. He's so good at finding ways to respect choices like this on the fly, even when a little outside of RAW. Also I think with Ma taking so long to succeed on the hacking, it wound up feeling like a video game where you fight waves of enemies and then as you beat the last wave, your guy in the van gets through the door. Finally getting the elevator totally calm felt like the trigger for the next cutscene in a really fun way.

I’m not going to lie, I’m so happy they roasted Caldwell about the bees. I was blown away listening to the episode when he brought it up! Straight out of left field!

Absolutely love some of Zappa and Primus. Primus' tribute to Rush tour was one of the sickest shows I've seen I'm 25 tho

Love the fact that Emily walked down the aisle to a song from final fantasy, because I also walked down the aisle to a song from a video game lol shout out to the love theme from mass effect 3!

My band used to cover The Muffin Man by zappa all the time, He POOTS forth the muffin remnants. GIRL YOU THOUGHT I WAS A MAN BUT I WAS A MUFFIN!

Didn't have a unicycle guy but we did have a guy on campus who never wore shoes. Just went everywhere barefoot

Lol avatar did not age well.

I'm a year late, but I know "Muffin Man" by Frank Zappa

Was the six flags park Darien Lake in NY? There's a coaster there named the mind eraser

Peaches en Regalia, zappa song covered by Phish!

Please not me thinking : should I learn to walk on stilts?

No way! Emily is a Zappa fan? That’s so sick! We are out here! We exist!

My brother named his daughter Zappa 😁

I saw after like 8 times in theaters because everyone wanted to see it I kept going with different friends and family. I will say this once you watch it so many times you really pick up on the details they put into the environmental animation

100% balls feel weightless on a rollercoaster, Murph is hiding the truth.

Finally, the stilt content I've been looking for!

Primus sucks…but like unironically

When I was a kid I was scared of stilts probably because of that Futurama episode when they couldn't control the jumbo skilts and they burned the building down

My husband LOVES the boondocks saints

Emily cutting her own tangent off as though I wouldn’t pay $5/month just to hear her talk about weird 4 hour frank zappa/claymation documentaries

I would love a Zappa documentary mixed bag, my pops and I are fans. As a non-musician, I really like listening to musicians geek out about their music preferences, it widens the auditory horizons

Technical accolades aside, story wise, Avatar is "Ferngully" and I can never not see it.

Fun story about stilts, my brother-in-law is super good at using them, so when I was a little kid he used to dress up with stilts and a giant rubber Frankenstein mask on Halloween to jump out from behind this thick as hell tree and scare the neighborhood kids. This includes me. His son, later in life, worked with me at a haunted hayride and is super good with a unicycle. He used to dress up as a clown and ride it around the dark cornfields to scare guests at night. Spookyness is a genetic trait and this is all the proof I need.

I've been following Avatar's progress for the past 10 years and it's not an intentional plan to have it come back after so long. They had to invent new technology to create the effects for it. They've been filming and finishing these movies for the entire 10 years we've been waiting on it. And Avatar has held the highest grossing movie of all time since it came out. It's still even beat out all of the marvel surge. It's not some novel film, it's basically revolutionary to a certain generation.

Emily, my band and I are big Zappa/Primus fans! We also do a D&D show and would love to have you on someday to talk about music and D&D 👀

I loved Avatar but haven’t seen it in years. However I do agree that imbibing in weed makes me very critical of movies I otherwise love. Most movies seem very cheesy to me when stoned lol

Not surprised to hear Emily love Frank Zappa! 😂💕

Frank Zappa was the greatest composer of the 20th century.

Show out to Em and Frank Zappa. My dad got me into it when I was really young, I remember the first songs were in the album that had Don’t Eat Yellow Snow and Valley Girl.

As a 16 year old I do want to use stilts

Emily, I used to work at a brewery that bought hops from the Zappa family; we got to interact with them a few times and WOW, so weird but cool as fuck.

Caldwell, you have to give Primus a chance. I had the same outlook until I had someone explain what Les Claypool is doing on bass. As far as bass goes you need to actually watch his fingers on it. Even if you don't play guitar he has another level of talent. Jerry the racecar driver is a good example of what he can do. He combines expert level tricks to get some of that sound. Herb Alexander (the drummer) is also a extremely talented drummer, seeing his drum set is very intimidating. "Have a Cigar" is also a very good example of their funky music, and their rendition of the Willy Wonka soundtrack is better than most other versions of some of the songs. And as a final note. South Park's theme song was recorded on a tape recorder while they were driving in the tour bus. Sometimes the history will give appreciation.

Emily loves Zappa! Amazing! Can’t wait until the group watches Baby Snakes.

The stilt comvo is DANGEROUSLY accurate to how my wife learned to walk stilts. She wanted to cosplay a tall character and just…bought stilts. She killed the cosplay, enjoyed stilts, and now has a job where she walks stilts. Stilts are very alive. At least to my cosplay wife who gains weird skills and interests Axford-style

I totally forgot about Primus! I vividly remember sitting in the back seat with my dad blasting "Jerry was a racecar driver"

I’m 25 and watched Boondock Saints last week it’s one of those movies like Point Break that just don’t go out of style.

I have a Zappa tattoo! I’m a big fan! Love Em for that!!!

There was a whole family of unicyclists that lived across the street from me as a kid. It made the lone unicycle dude at college way less impressive.

I re-watched Avatar recently, and personally thought it was still awesome

I once saw a guy on a unicycle that had a mountain bike tire and he was taking it up a pretty rugged hiking trail. 😳 I was going back out so I know not his fate.

That icy dagger - also known as the Slicicle

im currently mid 20s, and stilts DEFINITELY enticed me as a pre-teen. frankly, i felt pressure to not like them anymore when puberty hit everyone. but i secretly still harbored a ton of shameful joy for such clownery (surprise, i am now a theatre performer)

Best review of Avatar: It was half way over a quarter into the movie.

My Father met his first wife while on tour with Zappa. In what capacity, we don't know, we heard the story after he passed. My father did play bass though. There is a mention on one album from the right time "thanks to the irreplaceable Bob Ross"... Zappa has always been close to my heart since then.

There’s a tingle

I need a whole Emily music hour

Zappa slaps

Baby Snakes! Haven’t seen that documentary since the late 80s - I love Zappa but as I recall that movie was rough to watch! Nice to know Emily is a Zappa head. What a deep and tasty cut!

Emily you should check out the band Ween if you're not familiar with them. Zappa and Primus are always talked about in the same vein as them, I think because their music has a similar level of irreverence while also being taken super seriously by very talented musicians? It's tough to describe.

There is a ~little~ tingle

I know they teach stilting at the Cleveland Institute of Art and they start as young as like 5 on lil 1 foot stilts! They make giant puppet costumes on super tall stilts, kind of like in the lion king musical? my aunt and cousins all do stilts I've tried but it's a lot of training lol

I definitely didn’t make a decision when I was like 20 to get “Veritas” and “Aequitas” tattooed on the inside of my biceps at a Bluegrass Festival in a Ski Resort Hotel room in Colorado…

Everyone should listen to the 8-bit book club episode where Caldwell writes a final fantasy 6 CYOA for Emily

Oh yeah- there's a tingle, Murph.

Holy sh*t I was just thinking about how awesome it would be if 8BBC made a comeback. Pleeeeeeease make it a regular thing!

Caldwell has a delightfully inexplicable ability to be flustered and surprised every time one of his insane lies requires a deception check. Each time Murph asks for it, Caldwell responds like it’s the first time haha. I love it.

OMG OMG OMG PLEAAAASE DO A BABY SNAKES MIXED BAG, GREAT GOOGLY MOOGLY!!! I was literally raised on Zappa and got into Primus when I was like 9, Les Claypool is the main reason I switched to playing bass from guitar as a kid

Just started listening Frank Zappa because of this short rest! Thank you, Emily!!

Absolutely love Zappa.

Emily shows her musical appreciation knowledge with these deep Zapa cuts

I love Zappa!!!! Bruce Bickford (the claymation artist) is the human incarnation of a bad salvia trip

I love how open Emily is about doing shrooms. Need a Mixed Bag where she’s just high as fuck and everyone else is just chillin

Weirder Roller Coaster question; do you scream and are you making yourself scream because it feels appropriate OR does it just happen?

Portland used to have The Unipiper! We went around naked, on a unicycle, playing bagpipes!!! 100% true I have socks with him on them

Frank Zappa is great! Folks in Baltimore love Zappa, and there is a statue not too far from where I used to live.

Omg. Only at 8:18 but I now suddenly understand why my husband is such a movie critic. He is basically always a little (ok honestly significantly more than a little—legal state I can say that now;) stoned if he’s watching a movie. Lol. He hated Avatar. I loved it. We saw in the theater before all the streaming etc but right away he was like “meh.” Just dying here. Ok on with the podcast!

21 - Never heard of the Boon Dock Saints

This is in no way relevant to the current arc. I just need you all to know that Sonic and Tails toys are available in happy meals. As a result I have maybe accidentally told children a version of Happy Hoglidays. In my defense it was my most recent Sonic reference!

Definite ball tingle on roller coasters

Now i know how Emily feels when they talk Star Wars

PAPYRUS!!!

100% there is a tingle.

I’m glad this was talked about. I loved the office and then I watched it while stoned. Something clicked like “wow, this is an entire show of truly shitty management that’s encouraged” and i just can’t find myself to like it anymore nor can I actually justify pitching the show to people.

Jam and Zappa Nadd fans unite! Always love hearing Steing Cheese pop up

Les Claypool is a legend but let's also get some love for Herb Alexander (since Emily is taking drum lessons and all 🤘)

Baby snakes is an *absolute* banger! As someone who became an actual Tom Petty fan after his 4 hr doc, I think I can handle this Zappa flick

Hey I'll defend Caldwell here. I thought the bee thing was a decent excuse for not taking off the helmets cuz his face was too stung up as a result. And Murph rejecting made sense cuz he could easily so say ...no there isn't. But I don't think the pivot when the guy asked you to take off your helmets was a silly one. I thought it was practical cuz how could the dragon elf news make it so that you wouldn't want to take off your helmets? #CaldwellBeesMadeSense

I remember thinking Avatar was fine, but the reason I was kind of “eh” on it was because the plot is basically that of the animated movie Fern Gully, which I watched so many times as a kid and thus Avatar was very boring.

Just came here to say hell yes to the Frank Zappa / Baby Snakes tangent on this episode… the claymation in that documentary is some of the wildest, trippiest things I’ve ever seen. Never expected to see this referenced on NADDPOD/Short Rest!

There’s a tingle.

Chrono Cross has such a crazy good soundtrack. Somehow Scars of Time makes me sometimes nostalgic for this game despite the fact that it wasn't even that good, and was mostly a hate letter to Chrono Trigger and its fan! I still use Chronopolis in TTRPGs when my players are pondering their next move.

They live in a ho-ho, a ho-ho-hole (Tiny hole) That is usually empty (Usually empty, tiny too)

8 Bit Book Club?! Yesss!

👶🐍

Greetings from germany! We have a Frank Zappa poster in our shared poly amourous flat :D we love that crazy man

I grew up (28M) listening to Zappa and captain beef heart. I remember my dad putting that on when I was 10 and I never knew what it was called. Thank you so much for bringing this up. I have mentioned it to other people before.

For sure there is a tingle

For what its worth talking about being old and netflix. Jake is directly responsible for the thing that make me look Old. It's when I tell 20-25yr old that my first introduction to Lyn Manuel Miranda was a college humor rap battle sketch

Omg I love Les Claypool!!!!!!!!!

Around the time dvds were being mailed to you I discovered you could borrow movies at the library 10 at a time for two weeks. I binged through the x files before binging was a thing lol

What's the ugliest part of your bo-dy? Some say your nose Some say your toes I think it's your miiiiind

The boonduck saints

Caldwell I feel seen by “you watched Battlestar Galactica over two years one disc at a time” 🤣

I’m 19 not 16 but uh I’ve been wanting them since 10 years old after a friend got them and it’s always stilt vibes

Emily being a huge Zappa fan is extremely on brand. My dad used to play The Muffin Man and St Alfonzo’s Pancake Breakfast all the time. Emily your experimental sound rock perspective is valid and seen!!!!!

Huge Zappa fan here too! His compositions for classical chamber ensembles are insane as well. Between that and Caldwell bringing up Deerhoof the other day y’all have impeccable taste hahaha.

i’m 23 and i have no idea what the boondocks saints is if that helps you feel old, but i do remember when movies got mailed to you

My brothers and I as kids always referred to the sensation at Tinglebirdy. So. It's not not testicular.

So wild to hear Emily talk about Frank Zappa. One of my friends wrote 9 books about his music and is the host of A Frank Zappa podcast, so it’s always cool to hear someone shout out Zappa. Emily’s right, Frank Zappa is definitely worth checking out if you haven’t listened before. Real cool shit.

Not me being a 25 year old not having any idea about the boondock saints

I like what I've heard of Zappa's music, but I can't call myself a fan. My favorite is, "I'm the Slime."

Yo, Distant Worlds is performing in New York on my Birthday! (January) Y'all should go to that one!

Coming from a teen, I would love to try stilts but they are DEFINITELY not still in

Holy s***! I've never identified with Emily so much before this day. Frank Zappa all the way

I've seen baby snakes! It's great. Big time weird music guy.

I could never get anybody to finish Baby Snakes with me when I was in high school! I always loved Terry Bozzio's role in "Punky's Whips." Big beefheart fan over here too!

I also am a bit of a Zappa head! Emily tangent away!!

I fucking love frank zappa. If you’re looking to dip your toe check out the track Doreen by them. It’s amazing and short. Then listen to hot rats on repeat for the rest of your life.

Caldwell loves to dm himself lol. Caldwell: “Yeah and I’ll walk over to the honey fountain everyone knows about obviously” Murph: “….no” Caldwell: “IM JUST TRYNA HAVE FUN”

Currently 25 and absolutely love boondock saints 😂

The Chrono Cross soundtrack is so freaking great. Just bought it on steam and I'm loving every second of it.

I don't listen to a lot of Zappa but I'm a fan of Beefheart, and ofc the Residents (I don't suppose there's any Res heads here lol)

Bozzio doing "Punky's Whips" is right up there

Wtf is the Boon Dock Saints lmao?

Love me some Zappa and The Captain!! Haven’t heard about this documentary though and will seek it out

Distant worlds is coming back?? Fuuuuuuuck yeah!!!!

SPEAKING OF GOOD FINAL FANTASY MUSIC, i will continue to tell yall to play final fantasy 14 until my dying breath. the composer for the game is amazing, there are world records for the number of unique songs and i think that especially murph and emily would appreciate the music and the story! a lot of the music is also on youtube and spotify! when yall mentioned distant worlds i just !!!!!!!!!!! i went to the 30th anniversary one and it was so good, we were like 4 rows behind Nobuo Uematsu! :o also unbelieveable that jake, the resident blink fan didn't bring up travis barker when emily was talking about drummers!

Zappa’s definitely unique. His children, Dweezil and Moon Unit, were big on MTV in the 80’s.

Columbia House had 10 albums for a penny then you got monthly albums until you cancelled. I did it twice, once with cassettes (yes, cassette tapes, the successor to 8 tracks!) and once with cd’s, in my youth. They definitely got me for a few bucks. Then they had a movie one when dvd’s came out that I didn’t do.

Emily going off on music was amazing. I just wanna hear more about drummers. Would love to know if she listens to don caballero or Japanese math rock like toe

Murph saying the 25 year olds were like Boondock Saints is not popular, while I’m sitting here (I’m 25) like wtf is this movie? I feel called out 😂

One of my favorite movies in the world (top three) is 3 Idiots and it’s maybe 3 hours long and i could never get anyone to watch it so i feel your pain Emily. The only friend that watched it with me now considers it one of her favorite movies and both of us forced her husband to watch it with us (he also loved it) I think it’s on netflix now?? It’s an Indian movie so you’ll need subtitles on (unless you speak Hindi)

in regards to stilts, im 17 and fucking loved stilts for a long time. i was like an actual stilt performer when i was younger. it ruled

stilts walked so tall bikes could ride

Zappa fan here!!!! So happy to hear Em share that! Gotta find that doc now, weird or not! Actually the weirder the better!

Definitely a tingle. Also I think a lot of the hype/love around the first Avatar was it's incredible CGI for the time

There's a tingle. It's not always a good tingle, but it's there.

During the beginning of this TalkBack I was just picturing Flowey from UnderTale talking to Calliope and this is the wildest crossover I am forming in my head rn.

My mom is German and her favorite musician is Frank Zappa. That divergence was the best.

Some 25 year old is listening to this and thinking the boondocks saints isn’t popular… I feel so called out.

we had someone on stilts for a musical i was in during high school and the amount of times he ate shit should have been a liability to the school

Caldwell mentioning drunkenly watching the Boondock Saints DVD menu took me vividly back to a day-after-Saint-Patrick's hangover.

Before sex, there was only stilts

Bees are funny. It's a funny word, they're funny little guys. Gob from Arrested Development yelling about BEES, Nick Cage vs bees in the Wicker man, it's comedy gold, baby.

What Avatar did was bring in 3D. For nearly a decade most big movies had 3D. Now they don’t.

The bee thing actually made sense to me. It sounded like they stung the crap out of his face and that’s why he didn’t want to take his helmet off because of how bad it looked/ the swelling made his head stuck.

Just turned 26 so might be aged out of the demographic, but I was lucky enough to love Boondocks Saints thanks to a cool, older brother! Y’all have great taste, don’t fret haha

I love Captain Beefheart but can't listen to too much Zappa. I saw Primus awhile ago also but the crowd was all suburban parents on their only night off and going way too hard. I say that as a big metal head who has seen the hardest of the hard

Emily's Zappa tangent made my day honestly

so I work at a music store & we were doing our inventory earlier this week, while going through our various instrument solo books I found a book of Dave Matthews Band tunes for saxophone and immediately thought of Jake because of how many times DMB comes up on this show 😂

Mixed Bag Avatar?!

Has there ever been a wilder opening to a short rest

FFXII is great! Have fun playing it!

The BoonDUCK saints? Am I right?

As a teen, I would love to use stilts but I'm biased because I'm very short and love anything that makes me taller.

as someone who’s almost 25, i had no clue what y’all were talking about when you were discussing the boondocks saints so i couldn’t even tell you whether or not it’s actually as popular as y’all remember 💀

I'm 32 and use stilts very often for work. Different kind of stilts though. Us commercial painters and drywallers use stilts near daily. Probably up to 4 ft at most though. Can confirm BJs are possible on them as well 🤓

I want to listen to Emily's stoner stories. I also do the weed.

I get that tingle sometimes on a very steep hill while driving.

Yo shout out to the tingle

My mum's coming with me to Friday's Manchester live show so I just had to spend 5 minutes debriefing her on how graphic the show can be so she wouldn't be blindsided when I got this notification. From dragon pussy to murph's balls.... See yall in a week!

100% there's a tingle downstairs you guys. It's not NECESSARILY sexual, but there's a tingle 😂 Also, Zappa kicks ass Emily, you have good weird taste 🤘

Can't make this up as soon as I finish the show, I get a notification that the short rest got released.

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