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September 27, 2018

Short Rest: Ep. 33: Dangerous Knowledge

Check out NaDDPod's Patreon exclusive after show! This week, we discuss the events of Episode 33: Dangerous Knowledge.

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Scainwhe · November 3, 2025

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Lex · October 2, 2025

that description of rosaline is SO sick

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Dale Jefferson · September 14, 2025

Jake saying “I want to have a bad encounter” with the frost dwarves hits different when you know what happens

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Sarah Wilson · April 26, 2025

Did anyone notice that when they went to the Elemental Chaos that the safe word was Berry, but Murph says 'Berry Juice' as Uku when they've only been there for a couple of minutes and he doesn't disappear 😂

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Scott Dabundo · April 27, 2025

I’m glad someone else noticed this

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Cooper Erikson · September 4, 2024

Murph should have had Martha hooking up with a Pebblepot.

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Micayla Towe · January 3, 2024

YAY! MISTBORN TRILOGY! ❤️

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NursingWounds · July 20, 2023

Sick dwarf. 100% sick dwarf.

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Alex Jones · April 4, 2022

Sick dwarf

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Evilbob02 · January 20, 2021

With murphs comment about aragorn saying samwise was his son, he did describe the haflings to the riders of rohan they would be only children in your eyes

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Julie V Eckert · October 20, 2020

I am living for how much Emily hates the shipping of Moonshine & Balnor 😂

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Andy H · April 20, 2020

Their take on what Rosaline looked like is pretty cool. I always imagined it as Rose Quartz’s pink sword from Steven Universe

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Castaway · June 20, 2020

I just imagine it as a regular sword with Strike True written on it in elvish and an eye on the handle

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Stefan Maroni · April 15, 2020

This was probably one of my favorite episodes. I don't think i've laughed that hard in a while. :P

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katie ricketts · January 26, 2020

Is Caldwell serious about not knowing whether to get disguise self or feather fall?? YOU FELL OUT OF A TOWER! YOU BROKE YOUR DANG WALKING STICKS!!! Get feather fall.

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Summer Tribe · March 17, 2026

Didn't kill him tho did it? Like they fully got into worse trouble when they lied about Bev being Moon's kid and not being asked to back it up. Funny to think both those events were self induced

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Nathan Poulson · October 28, 2019

Do comments on old short rests get read? I'm curious if it was possible to absorb the watchman (power) not his all seeing ability but his all around power, earlier in the series you guys talked about how Thalia became a "God" by killing a "God"(devil)

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Devin Awe · December 3, 2019

I believe they've said that it was a requirement for the Watchman staying on the material plane that his power dies with him, so it couldn't be taken by mortals.

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Agents of DAMNED · June 11, 2019

I actually made a halfling character whose whole gimmick was that he disguised himself as a human child to sneak around. I don't see why Beverly can't do the same.

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Tukaru · October 4, 2018

My plan: Have Hardwon go by Elias Stormborn at the wedding and then have Moonshine as his new wife. Have Beverly pretend to be Moonshine's son. This would imply that Hardwon not only moved on, but now has a little blended family.

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Tukaru · October 4, 2018

Ooo. If someone says "That's a halfling, not an elf." When they claim He's their son, have Moonshine or Hardwon cover Bev's ears and explain that Bev doesn't know he's adopted. And have Balnor wait in the Stormborn, holding the bags.

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A. Godfrey · October 2, 2018

After last episode anybody else feel like Murph needs to check the balance on all the dice. <a href="https://youtu.be/VI3N4Qg-JZM" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/VI3N4Qg-JZM</a>

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Cassiel · September 30, 2018

Where did Hardwone get his luck points again? i forgot

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Just Alex · September 30, 2018

pretty sure it's a feat - a special ability you can select instead of spending an ability point to level up strength or dexterity

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Matt Kowalski · September 30, 2018

I agree I felt bad about it right through his death. Still do.

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Tye De Yoe · September 29, 2018

It makes sense to kill the Watcher but I would have had a hard time doing it, because I'm always against the whole "this person has the POTENTIAL to be bad/used for evil, so it needs to be destroyed". Lots of fiction organizations and "good guys" use that logic to justify all kinds of atrocities. But its a good thing The Watcher was a bit of a tool and not, say, a little Creek elf Girl.

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Summer Tribe · March 17, 2026

Here's the thing: watcher was evil. "Yeah hey I'll immediately empower the bad guys" isn't just potential to be evil, it's be a promise

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J Harkins · September 29, 2018

Hey I went to check the wording on lucky it's not that Hardwon has to use it before he rolls he has to use it before he finds out if he succeeds or fails. So if he rolls a 12 he has to decide to use it before Murph tells him if he hit.

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Jeremy Umpleby · September 29, 2018

The Beverly adoption idea is pretty solid. That holds more water than sickly dwarf, or Elf/Human child.

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Dave Consolazio · September 29, 2018

Was anyone else worried that the Watchman was going to reveal who Moonshine's real mother is? Would have sucked to take the ambiguity out of it, but certainly would have changed the tone of this fight! (Also might have got Murph murdered by Emily IRL haha)

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Jacob Hillman · September 29, 2018

That would have been so much worse than any of Hardwon's secrets! omg!

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James Ekstrom · September 29, 2018

I think the Hardwon and Moonshine should just introduce Bev with the truth, "Oh this is just a boy we met in a barfight who we kept around on our adventures of drugs and murder". Then, when there is stunned silence, they just laugh and say "of course that's a joke, he's just our sickly dwarf son". People will believe it as plausible by comparison.

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Otherborn · September 29, 2018

Has the group ever considered doing a twitch stream or YouTube episode? I would love to see the faces of the Band of Boobs after some of those crazy rolls this episode.

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Jacob Hillman · September 29, 2018

You guys had the lucky feat right! It reads "You can choose to spend one of your luck points AFTER you roll the die, but before the outcome is determined."

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Summer Tribe · March 17, 2026

Years later and I'm dead certain they're mixing it up with how they've done portent rolls wrong or something

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MeteorJuice · September 28, 2018

OH MY GOD. I'm so happy Murph is reading Mistborn. Such a great series. My ears perked up since Sanderson has been my most recent obsession. Also I hope they do the Lucky feat correctly

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Cyborg Version of Josh the Kobold · September 28, 2018

I gotta agree with Murph that people just know about Halflings and simply having him as an adopted child would make the most sense in a Deception attempt. That said in my imagination I'd guess a Halfling child would more easily pass as a Half-elf child than a Dwarf child.

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Attackins · September 28, 2018

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Jeremy Nakano · September 28, 2018

Throw more enemies at them to balance the combat, maybe homebrew some reasons why having more of them up is a hindrance so they can't just focus the boss down and convince them to join their group.

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The Plum · September 28, 2018

Love the show, would like to see more seperated / 1 v 1 fights like Beverly vs crag / when they entered the fog in the crik

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Alex Park · September 28, 2018

You can definitely use a luck point after the roll, according to the rules. Right? That’s how I read the rule cited by Joshua Small above.

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Cormac O'Connor · September 28, 2018

Emily, please call the sword Joleyne or Marabelle, or something like that. Honour the Crick, but more importantly honour your mothers, speaking if which, you could even call it something like water mummy. This is the best podcast I've ever listened to. Also Jake, it would have been really cool when you killed the watchman if you said, "Hey Watchman... WATCH THIS!"

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Connor Proudfoot · September 28, 2018

For the names, I agree whole heartedly. For the Jake killing line? God damn that would have been perfect.

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MLEbug · September 28, 2018

I mean, Beverly’s still young so he could be a half human child? But no way is he a sickly dwarf

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Jeffrey Steck, Lord of the Fjord · September 28, 2018

Moonshine can use Polymorph on Bev to make him a half elf human son or a dwarf son.

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Pirate Dave Productions · September 28, 2018

i think you could pass him off as a sick dwarf. just glue some "spare" body hair to his face, so it looks like he has a patchy beard.

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Kevin Alman · September 28, 2018

I can't believe Hardwon didn't say "Hey Watchman, watch this!" as he killed him. Missed opportunity. Great ep though!

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Tye De Yoe · September 30, 2018

im glad i wasnt the only one who thought this

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Cyborg Version of Josh the Kobold · September 27, 2018

That said I absolutely LOVE Murph's DM style. His homebrew is so entertaining and I always feel like a bad DM listening to this incredible podcast! I can't wait for a Bay Area Live show!

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Cyborg Version of Josh the Kobold · September 27, 2018

Lucky (DnD5e PHB Ch. 6, p. 167, "Feats") You have inexplicable luck that seems to kick in at just the right moment. You have 3 luck points. Whenever you make an attack roll, an ability check, or a saving throw, you can spend one luck point to roll an additional d20. You can choose to spend one of your luck points after you roll the die, but before the outcome is determined. You choose which of the d20s is used for the attack roll, ability check, or saving throw. You can also spend one luck point when an attack roll is made against you. Roll a d20, and then choose whether the attack uses the attacker’s roll or yours. If more than one creature spends a luck point to influence the outcome of a roll, the points cancel each other out; no additional dice are rolled. You regain your expended luck points when you finish a long rest.

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Connor Proudfoot · September 28, 2018

^ MVP

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Thomas Monti · September 27, 2018

Tinkle is my HERO!!! Tonathan 4 lyfe!!!!

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Steven Coleman · September 27, 2018

Jake has been using the Lucky feat correctly, I’m not sure who said it was being used wrong. You do get to look at the first roll before you decide, it just has to be before the outcome. And he can also use a luck point to change the attack roll from an attacker and switch them out, similar to a portent roll.

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Griffen Bier · September 27, 2018

I think everyone in Irondeep would be less confused about Beverly being Hardwon's son, and more focused why he would date a beardless woman.

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kenji harada · September 27, 2018

The safe word berries was said by tonathan at 12:45 in the elemental chaos :(

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M Scotter · September 27, 2018

Third on Brad's post. My character has Luck and that's how we've been doing it.

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Blizardstar · September 27, 2018

To be fair, the wedding infiltration is probably the most reasonable time they've ever tried to pass Beverly off as their kid. Since they would need to explain why they have a child with them. And the slightly-pointy halfling ears would probably just look like an even younger half-elf. Just instead of a halfling teen a half-elf like little kid. Or they yeah could just pretend they adopted a halfling boy. Either way it isn't that stupid this time for them to think of having to pretend Beverly is their kid so they don't show up and tell the truth which was "We met this kid as his boyscout camp and just sort of kept him."

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Elizabeth Lees · September 27, 2018

Seconding what Brad said above, Lucky can be used after the roll. Great episode, I always love hearing the “what if” stuff that gets brought up. :)

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Brad Donaldson · September 27, 2018

Great ep! Also, the Lucky feat is kind of a mix between what you said here and what you've been doing. You can use it after you roll, but before you know if it's a success or not. So if you roll a 1, sure, you know that's a failure. but if you roll say a 13 on a saving throw, you might not be sure whether or not that passes or fails and have to decide. Also, you can use it on an attack against you, which is pretty cool.

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Danni Sizzle · September 27, 2018

Bev's definitely a half-elf tot

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Victor martin · September 27, 2018

A baby half-elf would probably look like a halfling! #bringbabybev

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Don Etzkorn · September 27, 2018

Bev is a human child. It's great to hear Murph is constantly getting WHOMPED IRL too.

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Frederick Weisenberger II · September 27, 2018

Beverly looks like a small sickly human kid over a dwarf any day! Haha

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Dantizzle · September 27, 2018

The Band shouldn’t have had Bless while Tonathan was casting fireballs and mirror image due to concentration. I don’t mind at all, because I play homebrew in this way as well, but I think that’s why the Band did so well against the Watchman. Murph, ya rocked yourself!

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David Donnel · September 30, 2018

Since Fireball and Mirror Image are not concentration spells, Tonathan is free to cast them without breaking Bless.

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Sam Campos · September 27, 2018

I love that Tonathan had Mirror Image, it's a favorite spell of mine. I used it with an arcane trickster rogue build, and since being a rogue is pretty much a fantasy ninja I loved saying the Naruto "Shadow Clone Jutsu!" whenever I used it

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Goneoff · September 27, 2018

Working my way back up to it. I'm re-listening to the Cutthroat Chronicles

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LarkyV · September 27, 2018

Such a fun episode! Nathan is an amazing guest.

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Paddy Flynn · September 27, 2018

Great episode

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Paddy Flynn · September 27, 2018

I listened to it on Spotify just there

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Namtao · September 27, 2018

(I don't see the episode on the podcast feed either)

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Namtao · September 27, 2018

I don't see the episode this shirt rest comes after - where is episode 33? ❤️