D&D Court: Bonus Cases - The Sandler Situation
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As someone who used to say I hated math until I grew up and realized math is actually very important and useful, I've always loved sudoku and I'm confident even a drunk adult should be able to do a kids' sudoku puzzle with minimal difficulty. Even though sudoku has no math, i also think people need to chill with their math hate! I'm convinced a lot of it is just an aversion to challenges that make you think for more than 3 seconds and comes from a fear of feeling stupid rather than curiosity to solve new puzzles. You don't hate math, you hate feeling confused.
The Sudoku case: I think the players should have just been like 'can we solve this a different way?' Instead of lowkey throwing tantrums???
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re: ask for internet monies - my potentially hot take is that the ask/mention of not sure of a spot in 3 months is the way for the DM....maybe the players too (hopfully not! Not enough info) to get rid of the player subtly/weirdly instead of confrontation. I dont know for sure but that's where my mind went.
definitely, you wouldn’t give a friend the ultimatum to pay up or leave
So, a table full of college educated adults that all at least had masters degrees had full breakdowns from a dnd puzzle? That just seems like a bunch of adults that need to grow up.
Shout out to Cosmic Crisp. She is a great choice of apple. My favourite, though, is a newer variety called First Kiss. She was developed at the University of Minnesota and is a September-October seasonal girl.
I also had a DM revoke an item after several months of use. It was some kind of shield that magically adapted to add to the AC of any wielder without being held. After several months, my DM told me that I started feeling sick, which was only relieved when I removed the shield - he said it had been sucking away my hp and that I had to get rid of it. In the shared case, the DMs just thought it was OP and didn't want you to have it. Everything they said was just their way of taking away your cool item. 🫤
Late to the ep but ppl in the comment calling for a mistrial cause sudoku isn't math even tho Caldwell did look up the rules and then they just called it a worksheet from then on is funny. yall so upset about them not knowing a puzzle not everyone has ever touched that you didn't listen to the rest of the case (hard agree that it has worksheet energy) Also if you are given a sheet with all the symbols and the dm says it's sudoku if you've never played sudoku it won't matter if you have a phd or not lol. even worse if they weren't told what it was. Like, I wouldn't assume a random grid is sudoku
Mis-trial for sudoku dm!
Sudoku is not math!! And yes, I know all the comments are saying this as well But there wasn’t even any numbers in it! He replaced it with symbols! Also the sudoku for kids has sooo many numbers filled in. Or they aren’t 9x9
Did you guys really have to Google Sudoku lol? 2002 called, it’s confused because it thought you were boys but maybe not?
The reason the group broke down has nothing to do with the puzzle. This is a group of friends who have been playing DnD together for who knows how long where two of them are moving away permanently. It’s their last session and they won’t be able to play again any time soon if ever. Do you really want to spend that last session solving puzzles?
Honey crisp apples forever and in the fridge is so nice
The sudoku puzzle with symbols swapped in for the numbers is a puzzle I definitely did at least once as a kid (in... professor layton? dragonology? the mysterious benedict society puzzle book? the gravity falls 3rd journal? I'm can't remember) and even as a kid (albeit a kid enthusiastic about puzzles) it was totally doable. I agree finding a more exciting roleplay solution would probably have worked a lot better once the puzzle clearly didn't land, but I don't think this was at all a crazy puzzle to pitch to a group with two librarians.
There are 4x4 and 6x6 sudoku grids for kids, we don’t know what OP did but I think that would be fun and not impossible with orcish symbols, especially if you have an advanced degree, come on
"Sudoku is math" actually horseshoes around to become true if you think more about what math is. Sudoku do not involve *arithmetic*, but they do involve careful logic to prove many things from a small number of givens; pattern recognition; symmetries; deductive reasoning.... This is all math. And it explains why the Math Anxiety imposed by school systems follows people into sudoku.
“Sudoku isn’t math” aside (numbers = math for a lot a people, simple as), I struggle to think of a way to make sudoku fun as a GROUP activity, particularly if people aren’t into Sudoku in the first place. The game is mostly pattern recognition and tracking what you’ve already done, and what you’re keeping in your head. It seems like a really challenging thing to make collaboratively engaging… people either talking over one another and not knowing how each player is tracking things internally, or one person taking over, over people trying for a bit and taking turns. None of these sound particularly fun, unless everyone on the table was good at Sudoku and on the exact same wavelength. Add the additional challenge of swapping numbers with unfamiliar runes and it’s just a recipe for disaster imo. Crying might be an overreaction, but I could see it more if you’re thinking “this is how we’re spending this important, emotionally charged session?”
Jazz Apples hold my heart
Sweet tango can't be slept on
Apple taste test for the next mixed bag?
Everyone in the comments is hyperfixating on “sUdOku iSnT mATh” when their whole take on the matter in this episode was still good, and the DM definitely deserved to be punished. Clearly the players didn’t like it and the DM didn’t go a good job at pivoting, you shouldn’t add a second game into D&D without explicitly making sure players are into that, and the DM didn’t have a way for the characters (not the players) to solve it through their abilities and features. Everyone is getting sidetracked by being upset about them not being familiar with sudoku, which is clouding judgement
Cortland apples rule!
Jake 100% has the right of this take I’m frequently full off 1 apple. Cortlands and macoun are great
Everyone's so mad Naddpod called Sudoku math, they're completely ignoring the fact doing it with made up Orcish symbols completely ruins the ease of the game. You are now having to memorize 9 never before seen shapes and apply them to the Sudoku puzzle structure. Also, never do other games/real puzzles inside DnD needs to be DM 101. That's not what we're here for. Let my high Int character much smarter then me roll to solve things!
Axford Try queen cox its a apple my family grows and it's my fave of all the apples on the farm
Do we know if the DM said it was Sudoku? I feel like looking at a grid with unknown symbols would overwhelm me, too. Even though I have played Sudoku, I am not sure I'd clock it. I think the answer would be to ask for a perception check and then be like, "You see an ancient script above the puzzle, spelling out s-u-d-o-k-u!"
everyone correctly pointing out that sudoku has no math but can we also revisit the fact that the players all had like. advanced degrees in intellectual fields. they’ve surely seen sudoku before, but more importantly they were insane for pitching a fit and refusing to try or giving up quickly rather than asking for help. motion to declare a mistrial.
That’s what’s getting me as well. It seems like a wild overreaction. To immediately riot and not even try or maybe suggest they do it with real numbers not the symbols or anything. (No shade to the woman who burst into tears, there’s something else going on there. And I’ve anxiety cried over less)
Sugar bee apples are the best on the market
Sudoku isn't math it's a logic puzzles xp
Lol me sitting here doing sudoku while listening to Dungeon court. Then y'all start shitting all over sudoku 😭
Came here to find someone else with the same experience 😅
Honeycrisp apples for the win
Lol sudoku has caused the biggest uproar since dipspit 😂
When you play sudoku your brain recognizes the numbers easily because you’re super used to them. As soon as you switch that up the amount of information your brain has to process increases significantly. Also echoing sudoku isn’t math l lol That said the reaction does seem a bit much
Empire apples are the best apple. Echoing “sudoku isn’t math” but the moment you swap the numbers for unfamiliar symbols, the children’s level sudoku puzzle is an actual challenge, even for someone familiar with the game. It’s definitely extra steps on top of solving the puzzle itself, which if no one at the table knows how to do then… ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Everyone should give sudoku a try though! It’s another type of puzzle game - I’m shocked none of the judges have played even once before!
The book The Fruit Hunters by Adam Leith Gollner completely changed my world as it is a journalistic expose of the secret world of fruit that surrounds us - I highly recommend reading! Emily may probably love it
Just throwing in my Fuji apple seed into the Apple-off ring
For the sake of their poor brains/bodies, instead of another Energy Drink Sommelier, can we get Apple Taste Test?
Comment section is 75% sudoku defense and 25% apple variety recs - love it 😂. Pink Lady all the way 🍎
Definitely best apple
high crit, i am a young man of only eighteen and a sodoku fiend, and have done sodokus multiple times collaboratively and conversationally with my partner and with friends. i riot against the claims made by justice tanner!
i love sudoku but even i would be perturbed with the introduction of unfamiliar orc symbols
I'd be upset if I was handed a Sudoku in game. I stand with the High Crit.
This podcast has had a lot of dumb moments but the fact that all FOUR of them have never even grasped the concept of sudoku blew my mind. Emily repeatedly saying “math can be scary people don’t like math” THERES NO MATH. I think that submitter got an unfair ruling and should demand a retrial.
Absolutely. I love the NADDPOD gang with all my heart, but hearing Murph call an easy-level Sudoku a 'worksheet' had me fuming lol
You reminded me of something I haven't remembered in over 10 years, there was a window of time I think in high school where my belt was broken, and I DID use a bungee cord to hold my pants up until I got a new one, we happened to have one exactly the right length
There is a gen z stitch product. I want to send a picture to the crew, how do I do that?
The P.O. box
Unlike D&D, Sudoku doesn't even force you to add!
Yes, ironically DND is more math than sodoku 😂
Sudoku could be done with colors or sounds or smells or tastes or textures instead of symbols of any type, nevermind "math". Mmm, chocolate Sudoku... 💝
Sudoku DM may have lost the case, but they win Trial by Comments.
also thank you murph because i also groaned out loud at “my love language is annoying my wife 🤪” like i think u need to pick up rosetta stone or duolingo or something and learn a new one because yikes
My love language is throwing rocks at girls I like at recess.
LOLing at the way the sudoku submission became the controversial case
I too have never done sudoku and too believe it’s secret math. I stand by the court.
I've got bad news about D&D...
Sudoku is literally just pattern recognition and can be so so easy. Such an ungenerous read there and I can't believe people are so fixated on numbers = math. My favorite version of sudoku is just biomes. So many ways to solve a sudoku puzzle. Why are we crying over it?
As a sudoku lover and frequent DM, I'm gonna have to *agree* with the justices' ruling here on that case. I once had my players do a very simple slide puzzle for children, and it was a huge flop -- they were all very smart people but wanted to play D&D, not solve a child's slide puzzle, and being confronted with an unexpected real-life puzzle made it way harder than it would've been if they'd picked it up themselves outside the game. And that was valid! It sucked the energy out of the session until I said they could roll for it. They all rolled badly, so I said the PCs took an hour to solve it (I should've, as the justices mentioned as a possibility, honored the fails and had a little monster pop out for them to fight, but alas) and moved the session along (whereupon our normal energy was somewhat restored, lol). Real life puzzles are risky unless you tell people ahead of time and they're down for it, and you should build in in-game mechanics like a failure timer and mini-battle and alterations solves.
I think there's two things happening: 1. Sudoku isn't remotely math, so people are (rightly) annoyed about that characterization of it and 2. The justices are right in their ruling to generally not have other games in your game
Boo Cortland apples boo
My issue with the sudoku submission is that the DM absolutely did not get a sudoku for “babies”. The submission said “replaced the 1s and the 2s and so on”. That sound like more than a 3x3 grid. If you had 9 symbols, then you were doing a beginner adult sudoku. “Babies” would maybe be able to do a 3x3 if they had practice.
That’s a good point
Cosmic Crisp is where it's at.
COSMIC CRISP SUPERIORITY 🍎
Case submitters please never stop the “If it matters, this person is my partner” reveals at the end (only if its true ofc) because it makes me laugh every time
I enjoy sudoku and as others said, it’s not math, it’s more like organizing a collection. And so I think what the biggest thing that could make this hard is how complex and/or similar looking the Orcish runes were. You’re trying to organize this collection of unfamiliar symbols and the organization has to work on 3 levels instead of 1 level. Anyone who struggles with “find the difference”-type puzzles are really gonna struggle in this.
I would love to know how that first cases game is going now and if other pc’s have made new characters 😂
You can't just change a numbers puzzle to letters, and DEFINITELY not fantasy alphabet only you know, that's LITERALLY what alchemists did to ensure NO ONE could ever decode their formulas and spells, you CANNOT solve a Sudoku puzzle like that, you can't demand anyone to think "Ah ha, d+e=i", if I figured out what the puzzle actually was based on, I still wouldn't be able to solve it and I would be so mad
I feel like being evil on purpose in the present and then EXPECTING to definitely away with it with a redemption arc is like trying to buy a papal indulgence then commit a crime, and your DM turned out not to be a corrupt pope, but a scolding pope
I can crush a Sudoku but they can take some time depending on the size.
I feel the same way about apples
I am also a recent Cosmic Crisp fan, Emily!! I love them!
I sentence the court to trying daily sudoku for a month
Theres literally 0 math involved at all, the numbers are just placeholders. You can swap them with ANY 9 different symbols (which the DM did)
yes, sudoku is not math. HOWEVER, if the players were as unfamiliar with sudoku as our benevolent judges, they might have come to the same conclusion: this is a math puzzle. This would result in the same embarrassment that judge Axford spoke to. But I don’t think that was the real issue here. As a die hard sudoku player (any other cracking the cryptic fans here?), if I was given a 9x9 grid with symbols that I don’t understand and told to solve the puzzle, I don’t even know that I would assume it was sudoku. My read is that emotions were already high because several members of the party were moving away. I think any other time would be ok for a puzzle, but this session should have been for call backs and battles and letting everyone hack and slash and roleplay through their feelings. It should be a celebration of their friendship and campaign. But a little bit of embarrassment can slice through all those big feelings and lead to the players reactions. Also, the DM was moving away internationally, so likely feeling a different kind of way than their party. I think there are no villains here but that the party needed some above table and below table closure, which was threatened by the puzzle. Big reactions to little things mean big feelings are at play.
This is a generous read that I can totally get behind. I do a sudoku like every day, but if I were faced with a similar symbol grid, I wouldn't assume it was sudoku or worked the same. And unfamiliar symbols would make the puzzle harder than numbers. Also, yes -- if people are moving, emotions are running high!
I order the court to do a goddamn sudoku puzzle to see how easy the children ones are. SO ORDERED!
Well, now we need a Mixed Bag of apple tasting.
Lol listen to Jake’s podcast “the goat show” he did an apple tasting episode with his brother and wife
Rip Boarhide DM Shoulda just met an extremely arbitrary secondary effect clause. "You see a boar with chipped tusks tap it's hoof. Roll a charisma check"
Sudoku ruling is absolutely wild. Imagine preparing *anything* as a dm, two players taking a look at it, and immediately saying "nah I'm not doing this". That's incredibly rude.
Sudoku is not math!
The problem with the sudoku thing was translating it into a different language that is a layer of complexity that throws people off and it is compounded by a perceived time limit of the dnd session in-game puzzle
Pink Lady Apples, cold in the fridge, cut into wedges. Yoghurt and honey if you need
I have to say asking players with multiple postgraduate degrees to solve a simple sudoku is not hard and nothing out of the ordinary. There are lots of DM guides that include sudoku puzzles. It's hardly math, and these players were sensitive as hell hahaha
Also hilarious that the entire 2 Crew has no idea how to do them lol what are the chances none of them have done one either
Apple tasting episode like the energy drinks sounds fun. I agree apples just on the counter? Mid. Fridge apples? Different universe.
Don't let numbers scare you folks. America has a bad phobia of numbers. Also, you can do it as a team! D&D court's first mistrial maybe?
I love that there are 2 kinds of comments on this post “Sudoku isn’t math. Justice for the DM” and “OH HECK YEAH BABY LOVE ME SO APPLES” 🍎🍎
I think it’s really funny that they were like “it was a good pivot!” To the DM whose pivot was “you’re asleep now”
YES Cosmic Crisp all the way!!
Sudoku guy removed any semblance to math, he replaced the characters. It is JUST a logic puzzle.
I’m gonna say it: sudoku guy needs new friends. Maybe I have a skewed perception because I HAVE been doing them since I was a child but like. Imagine a 50-year-old crying over checkers.
Cosmic crisp is the only apple my mother can eat, she’s allergic to other ones. They’re great! Iirc they were developed specially to resist browning and bruising because people are less likely to eat less pretty apples, so it reduces food waste!
I think it’s a bit harsh to blame the dm for the sudoku. I get that it can be hard but the players freaking out and crying is a crazy overreaction. I think their pivot was a great idea especially cause it involves rolls
As someone from Washington, apple country, might I suggest an opal! By far my favorite apple!
Sounds like they need to forge documents (birth and or marriage certificate) to make Murph actually a Sandler 🤷🏻♀️
Cosmic crisp and lemonade apples are the top tier apples
Jake recommending a Cortland apple is such a New England recommendation 😂 I was going to say McIntosh. Both i feel like are only on the East Coast.
There is no math in sudoko!! This is a mistrial!! It’s not a difficult puzzle and CRYING AND RIOTING over a puzzle is nuts
Sudoku isn’t math.
Is it me or have they been really ruling against DMs lately?? The DM was wrong for doing a basic puzzle? 😂 How are we not ruling against the grown adults losing their shit over a puzzle, in the game that they know involves puzzles? Idk to me this is like getting mad that you had a hard combat. Sometimes parts of the game kick your ass a bit and you gotta laugh and keep going.
They're heavily biased against dms for some reason. Maybe because most submitters are players and they're biased towards submitters as well, but like 8/10 rulings are for the players.
Cosmic Crisps are the best imo
Agreed! Just discovered them after moving back to WA and found out they were developed at a university here!
my math teacher called me dumb in front of the whole class junior year
Cosmic is the best by a way long shot
Honey crisp is king! I am a convert and can't go back to anything else. Cosmic crisp is a far second place when I can't find the best.
At this point for the court to rule in favor of a DM a player needs to take a dump on the floor in the middle of the session. They ruled against a DM for just playing a monster rules as written and ruled against a DM who tried a basic puzzle and multiple adults, all seemingly with advanced degrees, freaked out.
I think the thing I didn't like about the mound ruling was that the I doubt the DM knew that the druid was going to pick call lightning and then picked a monster that was immune to it lol. He didn't do it out of malice lol the DM made a monster for his party to fight and missed that it was lightning immune, why do DMs have to be perfect all the times while players can go round and be babies haha
I literally would love to play that orc sudoku, am I weird?
Bold to hear "don't have a game in a game" from the creator of Eladrin Dragon Giant Chess
my immediate thought
Cosmic crisp is so elite
Cosmic Crisp Gang rise up!
YES I LUUUUUUV COSMIC CRISP
I flippin love dungeon court!
So I love Sudoku but I sympathise with the players. Doing it with symbols would do my head in. BUT if you still wanted them to try at the puzzle, you could have let people roll Intelligence or History or just a luck check. On a high roll you fill in and highlight every instance of the symbol corresponding to 9, or fill in a whole box/line for them. On a lower roll, only some of them. Something like that. I feel like there's gotta be a way to make it fun and teach them easy Sudoku!
yeah, maybe just explain how sudoku works and get them started, and you could put it on one big paper so everyone can work on the same one
Ill swear on my life that apples taste better outside
as someone currently desperately searching for PA jobs- that is a fate worse than death. film job market is non existent 😭😭
I really need them to play the Dark Souls Halloween Town one shot
Yes absolutely
With the puzzle story, our dnd group did a series of tanagrams (the puzzle with all the shapes to make a different shape, usually an animal), and it took us an hour. The next week, we were given a tetris style puzzle that took us almost 2 hours
Jake is speaking the truth! some apples are too damn big! I value a recommendation for a manageable sized apple!
I feel like if you’ve never played sudoku before, it could feel kind of overwhelming to have to do one on the spot in the middle of a game. If you’ve never done one and don’t know how it works, getting an explanation could slow the pacing of the game way down, though this feels a lot like a know your audience type of issue. Some tables would eat that up and ask for seconds. Some tables…not why they got into playing dnd.
Old people not knowing about sudoku… not on my bingo card!
listening post radio critty like this 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
I’m so happy for and jealous of youuuu 😭😭
Thank ya for picking my paladin case! I would’ve put more information but it was my first time submitting and wasn’t sure how much to write.
A crucial part of the sudoku case is whether the DM said “this is sudoku with orc symbols.” If it wasn’t made crystal clear that the puzzle was sudoku then I understand the player riot way more
Sudoku has NOTHING to do with math!! lol total mistrial
Idk I would consider a logic puzzle math. I feel like we went over logic in Geometry or Trig
Pink lady is my favorite appl!
The number of times I've yelled "sudoku is not math!!!" while listening to this 😆😵💫
SAME, truly just vibrating with the need to reach through space and time and explain this
even if it was an easy sudoku, replacing all the numbers with made up symbols would make it basically unrecognizable, i do sudokus all the time but i think i would feel crazy out of my depth if that had been placed in front of me with no explanation
THIS! Such condescension to say it’s for children when you replaced the numbers with presumably hand-drawn orc symbols no one’s ever seen before. Appeal for double jeopardy punishment: DM must complete a sudoku with 9 Japanese characters and the border is filled with softly drawn chibi bunnies.
I gotta say, the players in the sudoku story are weenies, unless something is being left out
I have multiple people in my life who freak the fuck out when presented with anything with numbers or "math". Even if you then reassure them there is no math, they are already traumatized and have put up a mental barrier to engaging with it. It's very frustrating, especially with my sister. I think her extremely negative attitude towards math heavily biased her kids against it as well.
My theory on the wireless package case - since the submitter is the only one calling in and the rest are meeting face to face, could it be that having a remote player is making things feel less smooth and organic? Maybe the rest of the group is not enjoying it. And maybe the DM feels bad about telling the remote player that they’re not welcome anymore so he came up with this insane scenario, designed to make the player be the one who says they can’t participate (because they don’t want to spend the money). Still weird the part about not saving their seat for them. I don’t know maybe it is a scam. Or maybe the DM has an issue with the player and is just insane about how to cut ties. Also I’m anticipating a sudoku mixed bag now
Sudoku rules!
Sudokus, even easy ones can seem overwhelming if you aren't familiar with how to solve them.
losing my mind at my phone there is NO math in sudoku you could do it with nine unique shapes, or A-I
I need more edge lord appatizer Murphy
I was stoked when I heard the cosmic crisp has made it to NADDPOD. The regulation apple spreads! You can’t go to dark souls Halloween town and accept Patches help! You know he’s going to kick you down a pit to be eaten by monsters! The sudokus are such a simple puzzle. The reaction is insane, are these people actual adults? There’s like no math at all it’s all about patterns and numbers sequences. I’m baffled. I demand a mistrial!
I genuinely got a bit indignant at the sudoku part lol I love sudokus and get intimidated by the simplest math questions, so I can attest to the fact that you don't have to do math (unless you're saying it in the way that all logic puzzles are math, but it sounded like you think you have to do calculations for sudoku), numbers are just very recognizable symbols, but like the DM did, you can just as easily take 9 different symbols Sudokus are fun v.v
am i misunderstanding the edgelord DM and paladin story? i thought the paladin passed the check to be influenced and was trying to “let it happen” as in not be saved by the BBEG and got stolen anyway?
I passed the checks and then told the DM to let it happen when the battle was ending. I thought my characters true nature would be revealed and the session would end on a cliff hanger. I guess it still did lol
Personally I would always go with sudoku over some kind of word based puzzle like a riddle. Love logic puzzles, I really struggled with anything word association related. Also sudoku with orckish symbols seems like a cool way of theming your puzzle! Solving it with game mechanics if your PC passes a check you could fill in all of one of the symbols… although I understand that wouldn’t work at the submitters table. I also use to hang out with my granny as a kid and do sudoku and crossword puzzles together and the sudoku was a lot of fun! It doesn’t have to be done solo… I feel like sudoku gets a bad rap because a grid of number can feel overwhelming to people without context.
Oh another way to try and make it less overwhelming would still be keeping the symbol theming but also give each symbol a colour.
"I can't guarantee you a spot" yeah you can you're the DM, what the fuck are you talking about
I’m so shocked none of them have done a sudoku??
Honestly, I could have done with more apple talk. I enjoyed that opener immensely Also I’m shaking my head and laughing that a simple game where you count from 1 to 9 has baffled all of you, along with the adults from the submission. Judging by the comments, we the people demand a mistrial
The edgelord DM might be in love with the wife. This behaviour is sus.
Can we please get a dark souls Halloweentown campaign for Halloween this year?? Plzplzplz
I am genuinely playing a sudoku puzzle while listening to this episode! and I regularly play sudoku puzzles while listening to naddpod haha
Same lol! Having my morning coffee, doing a sudoku and listening to dungeon court :)
I’m only on the first case so far but submitter bias seems to be firing on all cylinders today eh lol
listening to this after the show while eating mozzarella sticks in my moonshine cosplay. yall are the best.
I audibly gasped when Emily brought up cosmic crisp apples. I’ve never heard someone else talk about them but they are legitimately the most apple tasting apple there is
Hey…if your love language is “annoying your wife”, you are not a husband, you are a little brother and you deserve a controlling older sister treatment.
Hey I’m the first case. My wife and I razz each other all the time. It’s not that deep.
Trying to establish a DnD table protection racket on the person who is moving to Chicago is certainly on-theme
Hall of fame episode from Axford. Loved the cosmic crisp shout out
The sudoku read was so ungenerous :(
Agreed.
Omg cortlands effing SLAP. They were my pregnancy craving. I am not an apple person, they’re ok I guess, but when I was pregnant I craved only specifically cortland apples. The only other apple I’ve really truly enjoyed is a special golden yellow apple from a local farm that was bread specifically for apple cider mills. But at the farmers market they were selling them and they were so so crisp and juicy and had a depth of flavor I’ve never before tasted in an apple
Mixed Bag: Apple Sommeliers ??
I’m a Fiji girl. They’re sweet, juicy, and crispy, what more could you want?
My assumption is that the DM asking for money actually just wants the player to leave the group, but they are being indirect about it.
unreal that no one has mentioned SweeTango; best apple no contest
Lady Alice Apples are my new favorite variety, they taste like vanilla and almond and spices and are sooo crispy
I think the guy with the sudoku really explained it well by saying that like the numbers were replaced by symbols because it's not math like the numbers legitimately are symbols. There could only be one of that type of symbol in the square and one in the line that it's in so none of them can repeat in the same square and none of them can repeat in the same line and so it's legitimately a puzzle of like having to push them in the right direction. no math. maybe hilariously he can suggest they replace the orcish symbols with numbers!
Yeah this was my thought as well- it’s a logic puzzle, not math. The numbers just kind of act as symbols so replacing them with other symbols doesn’t change the puzzle except maybe to make it less recognizable.
As a Washingtonian I must recommend that Emily gets her hands on an Esopus Spitzenburg. It’s my favorite apple variety by far. A complex balance of sweet and tart with a decent crunch. Love them so much that I’ve planted multiple trees in my backyard
“I’ve gotten really into apples” is real Mr. Toad energy
This is the only worthwhile comment here
Pink Lady Apples are my jam.
👆🏻
There is absolutely NO MATH in Sudoku XD
Right?! You never combine or change numbers its just a puzzle that uses numbers
Thanks for the advice 🥹 guess I’m off to Vancouver this summer to try to sneak on set of Grown Ups 3
I actually watched Click with my partner only because it’s mentioned so often on this pod. It was surprisingly good, minus the staggering amount of racial stereotypes. Otherwise not a terrible movie lol
Wait. Sudoku is about math? I suppose, yes. You could do it that way. But for me, Sudoku is about patterns. I don’t do any math when I do a sudoku puzzle. Each line across, each line down, each individual box can only have one occurrence of the numbers one through nine. Each vertical column of three squares will have three occurrences of each number, but never in the same vertical row. Same horizontally. I thought everyone did it this way. Am I wrong? The math is all going to be the same anyway.
Mathematics is fundamentally about pattern recognition, so yes, it is! Even with replacing the numbers you’re still counting. Math sucks, but it’s everywhere.
There’s no math in Sudoku; it’s just put one of each number in each box/row/column. plus the DM replaced the numbers with orc symbols so they weren’t getting scared off by numbers. I get them not wanting to do a whole sudoku in the middle of the game though.
That's fair, but also, you can literally do the "easy" sudoku by the New York Times in less than 4 minutes. I can't imagine a sudoku for kids being more difficult than that
Sudoku is not math. I hate math & I am terrible at it. Sudoku is a logic puzzle. You can literally substitute pretty much anything for the numbers, like colors, and have the same puzzle. I play sudoku to help me fall asleep.
HAVE YOU TRIED ENVY APPLES
Sudoku case: I don't like this language around "you could have done XYZ" GM being held to a standard of "if you're not doing every part of the job at a high level, that's illegal in the eyes of this court." Meanwhile there's no expectation for adult players to share their feelings with the GM above table productively or -- if their feelings aren't that strong or they're not mature or comfortable enough to do so -- ASK in character if there's any way around the puzzle.
Felt this way in the last episode with the DM not seeing shambling mounds having lighting absorption until right before a player hit it with lightning. I’m not a DM, but I know a ton of planing goes into it (around work and other responsibilities) and you’re keeping track of a ton of things as the game progresses. The game doesn’t happen without the DMs and we as players need to be grateful for the work they put in. Also they deserve to have fun/enjoy the game they are running as well. Thanks for coming to my ted talk, I’ll get off my soap box now. Still love the show!
Anyone else think the hosts all know the submissions are fake and just don’t wanna stop milking this cash cow? Lolll
What makes you say the submissions are fake? I’ve seen this sentiment before, where is this coming from?
Fully agreed that cosmic crisps are the best apples. I will die on this hill and I hope a cosmic crisp tree is planted over my dead body
Pink Lady Apples from BC are truely the queen of apples
Listening while sitting in Radio City waiting for the show to start!
Honey crisp from BC are my favourite. Very important discussion.
Y’all gotta check out the marketing for snapdragon apples
Listening to this and Feychella at the same time, the way god intend
Omg!! Cosmic crisps are amazing, i just bought two trees for my garden!
Coming from Washington the capital of apples I think that galas are great but honey crisps are a good standard apple and pink lady’s are so peak. Also the fact that people don’t refrigerate the apples made me surprised lmao.
Internet case is 100% a scam
Maybe that lady has an extremely sick child that loves sudoku 😔❤️
Not nearly enough info for the first case to say it "doesn't sound" like the submitter is leaving out context of being awful to play with lmao it ABSOLUTELY sounds like that please leave those poor coworkers alone you're making them hate your wife I PROMISE
I promise that wasn’t the case. I used the term edgelord loosely based on the fact that he was a double agent. He was just a normal dude, not brooding or rude or anything. I was just trying to get my hands on something the party had. This whole group is now good friends.
Cosmic crisp is a newer Apple, heard about it from a different podcast a couple years ago
Regulation?
My favorite apple is Empire, they taste like candy to me
Cosmic Crisp and Royal Red Honeycrisp are tops
I literally just ate a Cosmic Crisp apple today... spooky
Emily apple tier ranking when?
OMG I SECOND THIS 😭 APPLE REVIEW
listening to this on the train on the way to Radio City!
i have really beef with adam sandler, is this gonna be a tough listen?
Posting this while I’m waiting in line for the show is crazy
literally dropped while across the street
Back2back
Was this also a great post?
crazy that adam sandler guests on this ep
FIRST
one day!
Listening on the way to the showwwww
Same!
