Mixed Bag of Holding: Energy Drink Sommeliers - THE YOUNG GUNS
There are some new heavy hitters on the energy drink scene, so the somms are BACK. We've ditched the controversial tang vs. bang rating system in favor of a bracket style tournament. It's Ghost vs. C4 vs. Accelerator vs. Gorilla Mind vs. Reign vs. Ryse vs. Xyience vs. Phorm. Who will come out on top? More importantly, will our brains explode from all the rad chemicals?
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My squirters are firing off!
a gorilla dressed as uncle sam (42:44) is a powerful visual, thanks Caldwell. Might use that for halloween some day
Being a Dr.Pepper employee and hearing that three of our energy products (ghost, c4, accelerator) made it so far in the bracket gives me some sort of undeserved sense of pride.
23:09 Yoda possession caught on tape.
GHOST supremacy forever. 'Merica Pop is my goat.
Caldwell saying "I thought Snapchat came out with an energy drink" was a sleeper hit we didn't acknowledge, I fear? Consistent Duncle bangers.
Ghost Grape is my current fav when I have an energy drink
As a construction worker, this is the content I long for. I think white monster will always lead though
#influenced saw a cherry limeade ghost while doing errands and bought one. honestly? pretty damn good
Silversack
This is my absolute favourite mix bag category! Huge fan of all the taste tests. I re-listen to the old ones all the time. So thrilled to unlock my Gorilla Mind.
Oh my God, that's one of my favorite parts of Voyage of the Dawn Treader! I dream of tasting that water!
When Caldwell said “cherry limeade from sonic” I 100% thought he was referencing Sonic the hedgehog. Like how Sonic loves chili dogs and apparently cherry limeade. It took me a very long time to realize he meant the restaurant
That's my goat Gorilla Mind! I also don't want to know anything about the creator. But Black Cherry Vanilla gets me through the day.
Grabbed a couple of Ghost energy drinks from the grocery store based on this; I'm currently drinking the orange cream flavor and I can confirm a) this is shockingly palatable by energy drink standards and b) my heart is not a huge fan of the sudden influx of caffeine.
Listening to this almost makes me want to try a few... until I remember that these are energy drinks.
Alright, who’s explaining this podcast to Lean Beef Patty?
I had an old boss who went through a phase of drinking this energy drink powder called gamer juice, and it was a bright blue powder that he would mix him into water and the flavor was sour patch kids blue raspberry. It had such a potent scent. you could smell his breath from across the office. Once one of the other executives told me that they smelled alcohol on his breath and I had to explain to them that they weren’t smelling alcohol, that was just his gamer juice.
Hey just in case you guys were wondering, yes, Gorilla Mind does have an app.
Damn can we have anything that doesn't get infested by weirdo right wingers
I’ve never had an energy drink but I feel like, based on listening to the mixed bags on them, I’d probably just instantly explode if I did try it 😂
also it’s incredibly validating to me that emily also had a childhood full of bland yucky weight-loss snacks. my personal favorite was the 100 calorie bags of chocolate cookies with the little sprinkled layer of sugar on top. lowkey i bet they’d still go hard.
Right? The pervasive diet culture of the 90s is so exhausting now in retrospect! (TBH it is still exhausting) Also noting that it was so incredibly gendered as well where the others couldn’t even relate.
1 minute in and i already love murph forgetting about the gamer edition they did. blocked it out, too much caffeine, became sonic and heart ran FAST.
Re: the creator of Gorilla Mind - "The reason why Derek stands apart from his contemporaries is that he goes in-depth on many edgy topics and brings together his knowledge and passion for pharmacology and maximizing human performance to produce science-based content about those topics on a regular basis. Derek also owns a hormone replacement therapy clinic that provides concierge-level health care."
Sidenote, this article used the word "level" way too many times.
Fellow Delsym-heads know the horrors of a medicinal taste
Truly if “sometimes Y” was a beverage
March Radness
I googled Gorilla Mind and the second result was "products restricted in Canada" which is a category in their store
I was inspired by the last taste test to branch out and try new energy drink flavours myself, so I'm absolutely thrilled that we get a part 2. The energy throughout this episode is (perhaps unsurprisingly) off the chain. I love it 👏👏👏
Pretty sure a "Caldwell Pour" already exists, and it's dumping an entire bottle of beer on your coworker at lunch.
very good
As a Canadian it's exciting that c4 and ghost held their own as i can only get those and reign.. disappointing to know I'll never get to taste the gorilla grip tho
emily’s love island voice is so good
“i could mix that with vodka and be a REAL problem at a graduation party” is so fucking funny
No way you couldve known but so funny to hear I hope none of these are right wing companies followed immediately by "1st up is Phorm" hahaha. Local here in St. Louis and ran by an insane right wing womanizer. Bonus points, they got sued for having straight up led in their products hahaha
damn thats crazy
C4 would of won the whole thing if they went with skittles or pink starburst flavor. And very surprised Celsius didn't make the tournament. Awesome content as always though👏
Make Emily watch shrek for a mixed bag. I like when they watch good stuff
thanks guys this saved my life
Desperate to know if caldwell listening to the narnia radio theater because he kinda did a reepercheep voice when he was talking about it
oof, i recently watched a youtube video what "natural flavours" mean in the US. maybe dont look it up if you already drank it.
GOD diet culture is so gross (referring to the quick mention of Emily’s childhood “breakfasts,” which definitely also reminds me of my childhood “meals”).
I AM SO MAD. you chose the WORST reign flavor!!!! REIGN DESERVES ANOTHER CHANCE
The Orange Dreamsicle Reign they chose for the very first one of these is amazing
This has been the greatest marketing for energy drinks. My susceptible ass went and got one this morning.
Really? Whenever I listen to these it just reminds me why I stopped drinking these awful things
You guys really need to do like a review of all the energy drinks “for women” now. Like alani and bloom and flrt. Cause i am one of many women straight up addicted to alanis and they taste INSANE
BOOOOSTTTT !!! Do the pink tax!!!
Ghost & C4 are both owned and manufactured by the same company, (Keurig-Dr. Pepper).
Hell of a merger
Had a shot of gorilla mind at work cause we were gonna be slammed, it actually made me dumber. I was making unprecedented mistakes all morning and then crashed hard And next time may I suggest Bucked Up, an energy/protein drink advertised at my gym that I haven’t had the balls to try
As someone who use to drink bucked up I wouldn’t recommend it for doing anything other then working out. It will melt you face
food/drink related mixed bags are so funny cause i get to see what my federal government laws protect me from that americans don't have
it's just gettin worse in that hellscape innit
Isn't Reign owned by Monster Energy?
Did Ghost dirty by not trying Grape Welch’s, current hyper fixation with one a day lol
Very upset that Celsius didn’t even make the list
Same, but they wouldn’t have given it much status because it’s a“subtle “energy drink
You guys should do a V8 energy edition for Emily lol. The caffeine all comes from tea so they are a lot less harsh and they taste pretty good.
Every time I see the word "sommelier" my mind still goes "som'n'menolier". Every time. Which, now that I write it out, why the extra 'no'? Why not "som'n'melier" 😅 But my brain insists it's "sommenomenomelier" sometimes, even... Anyway, there'll always a bit of M&Ms in your sommeliers, is what I'm saying. Forever.
You have ruined this word forever for me, I will never be able to pronounce it correctly again
Unfortunately as someone who studied and lives in Leeds, UK, I fear they're 100% correct except for STATE UNIVERSITY??
Yorkshire 4eva, white rose gang gang
18min in and caffeine content has not been mentioned. Am I the only one that just picks the can with the most health warnings?
Them mentioning my long lost love (Paneras death lemonades) hurts my heart. Paneras caffeinated mango lemonade kicked so much ass. The only carbonated drink I can do in the morning is Diet Coke, but dc doesn’t give you much bang. But those fuckin death lemonades? Drink a large one of those + can of dc on the way to work and who needs sleep. Not this gorilla
I'm waiting for the gamer supps taste test
As a Ghost fanboy, I am okay with a respectful silver medal.
Hate to see it Ghost is the clearly better drink I am biased since it was started in my town
I rate this two gamers rise up
I don’t drink them anymore, but when I did I used to mostly drink the orange creamsicle flavor of Reign specifically because Emily was so into it in the OG energy drink sommeliers!! Also Alanis - crazy that yall haven’t tried Alani yet!
The orange dreamsicle reign woulda changed the whole game
SERIOUSLY!!!! they chose the worst reign flavor
Gorilla Mind, from a quick Google, is owned by Derek of "More Plates, More Dates" I swear ever since they left the tang/bang era they've been platforming more and more right wing content. So sad to see
Just checked and my gyms fridge has Ghost, Gorilla Mind, and C4 for purchase all on the same row. They know
Ghost is my favorite
Phorm is even worse than they are saying, the name is actually 1st Phorm (yes the numbers lol) it’s so bad, and the flavor they have the literal only flavor on the can is Silver Lightning hahaha it says “tastes like silver lighting and other natural flavors”
The thing with Gorilla Mind is that while gorilla’s are strong, still a primate, a less intelligent primate than humans.
I love that they’ve seemingly all forgotten they also did a gamer edition of this
So agree on the cotton candy flavors being better than the actual thing. Cotton candy flavored Italian ice hits so hard.
Murph- I also liked the taste of grape Dimetapp. Close runner up was the strawberry bubble gum flavored Amoxicillin.
bubble gum flavored amoxicillin goes hard. it was the only medicine i wanted more of
shoutout to the primatologist (?, can't find the source) who long ago on twitter described the real Gorilla Mindset (TM) as e.g. getting violently angry at a glimpse of yourself in the gym mirror
Can’t believe they didn’t know Livvy Dunne, LSU gymnast and girlfriend of Pittsburgh Pirates Pitcher, Paul Skenes
i love you emily axford the woman of all time
I have an opposite reaction from Murph to seeing fruity drinks that are clear. It's reasuing to me there are no artificial dyes.
Real fruit juices have color though so to make it clear they have to really mess with it - it's like when a skincare product is scentless vs fragrance free. Scentless means they added chemicals to cover natural scents, fragrance free means there might be a smell but it's naturally occurring
There has never existed a podcast episode (or series counting the other ones) that were more made for me. As a life long energy drink shit head I appreciate the hard but necessary work you folks are doing here.
Gorilla mind was founded and owned by Christopher Deoudes and Micheal Cernovich, both of whom are rightwing, manosphere, incel influencers.
Oh noooooo! Cernovich was a major organizer of Gamer Gate.
Gorilla Mind?! Miss me with that, give my Orangutan Brain any day!
I just googled Gorilla Mind, and among their products banned in Canada is a “volume enhancing formula” supplement called Lock & Load, and yeah it’s exactly what you think it is lol
THE DAY IS MARCH 30th IN THE YEAR OF 2026, THIS IS ATTEMPT #9 TO COMPLETE MY QUEST AND CLOSE THE TIME LOOP. I AM ONCE AGAIN BEGGING, PLEADING: FOR THE LOVE OF THE BABA YAGA, CAN I *PLEASE* GET A COFFEE MUG WITH THE DON’T TREAD ON ME SNAKE, BUT IT HAS MURPH’S FACE, AND HE IS GLARING AT A FOOT ABOUT TO STEP ON HIM, WITH THE WORDS “TREAD SO CAREFULLY” IF NOT THAT IS OKAY, I STILL LOVE ALL OF YOU, AND WILL JUST TRY AGAIN. I KINDA HAVE TO, I CAN NEVER LEAVE THIS PLACE UNTIL IT OCCURS. YOURS IN TIME LOOP PRISON, Belligerant
Sounds like you gotta take it upon yourself to coordinate a fan art guerilla (mind) merch opportunity!
Absolutely sold on the cherry limeade from sonic, we bought the ghost immediately.
This unfortunately made me crave a cherry limeade so I, of course, had to go get one while listening
I need the soms to try moutain dew kickstart
I did just get an ad for a new 5 Hour Energy that's cotton candy flavored. BAD: Spotify is definitely spying on us all. GOOD: Yay, exactly what the 2 Crew was asking for already exists!
Really love to hear that old people still don’t know who Livvy Dunne is. As it should be
Manna from heaven shout out
Tylonel 3’s have caffeine in them
Well... I guess I'm making a trip to the gas station this morning on my way to work.
EMILY COTTON CANDY ICECREAM LOVER 🤝👏💥🌈🙏✨️
I listened to this yesterday and got an ad for the White Lightning Phorm drink today... I don't drink energy drinks anymore
I think I've only heard of one of these. I'm not an energy drink guy lol
So I had to look it up. guerilla mind ceo is a dude named Derek who is a former YouTube fitness influencer who had a channel called "More Plates, More Dates"
looked up the gorilla mind ceo and IMMEDIATELY saw his joe rogan interview 😭 incredible bullet dodge
I miss the spit bucket
Tread so carefully!
To Knowledge!
To knowledge!!
Bang and tang
Up and Go energise is an Australian drink for chocolate energy drink
Dimetapp mention!
I am frightened for your health
I'm trying to kick energy drinks so this content is made for me. I'm on Georgie this week haha
I'm sure if y'all wrote in explaining the situation they'd be happy to provide some caffeine-free options for next time.
And miss out on the bang??
So I don’t know if this is a common occurrence, but I know it happens to at least one other person: I cannot drink C4 energy. Something about it makes my skin incredibly itchy and makes anything touching my skin feels like pins, and I’m curious if anyone has this, it’s only for c4 though
So the chemical that gives you tingly skin is beta-alanine. It’s commonly found in pre-workout and energy drinks. And sure enough, it’s one of the ingredients in C4.
We got this before another surprise round damn
I will say, since you mentioned it, first phorm is owned by the company who owns WWE, and that parent company did donate to Donald Trump's campaign and sponsored his birthday party on No Kings Day. Its really hard to avoid those kinds of things, so no judgements, but I figured id mention it because it was brought up
I could be completely misremembering but wasn’t the orange creamsicle one from the first episode a Reign drink?
To Knowledge!!!
no celsius?!!? no alani!?!
Having a “young guns” energy drink taste test and not including Celsius is honestly crazy work. I feel like it came out of nowhere and just started dominating the scene!
‘Pouring an energy drink into my vagina’ isn’t a mental image I thought I’d have today but here we are lmfao
That'll get your squirters going
if you told me naddpod who talk about livvy dunn so much ever i would be so shocked
Can't believe they don't know that baby gronk rizzed up livvy dunne
Some of this shit sounds like it could make you hear colors
Also what Emily is describing as her “squirters” are actually a reaction in your mouth to ACID not sugar. The acid causes you to salivate and there is an actual test in wine tasting called the “dribble test” (where you keep your head hung forward after spitting or swallowing the wine and seeing how much saliva or “dribble” collects at the front of your mouth.) Some high acid wines like Riesling will straight up make you drool! 🤤🤙❤️😎
Everything Emily mentions from her childhood is borderline abuse. Holy moly.
This episode especially made me SO SAD and no one seemed to really acknowledge how fucked up it is to put a little kid on weight loss products like that. The lucky charms on the piano are not funny to me anymore!!
Unbelievable that dimetapp is murph’s “good medicine” pull, that stuff is why I hate grape flavors
Damn that's one of the reasons I like fake grape flavor. I fucks with dimetapp.
I’ll say right now now before they get to it, I love White Gummy Bear Reign and I don’t even like energy drinks.
Dude you guys have to find the Ghost Energy welch's grape-cran. Tastes exactly like Welch's grape-cran juice, which is objectively delicious. My new favorite.
now that they know of Livvy Dunn the next Rot Topic should be on Baby Gronk Rizzler brain rot
Interestingly, caffeine is not very soluble in cold water, which is why heat lets it be extracted when brewing coffee and tea. HOWEVER, acidic conditions make caffeine soluble incredibly high - much higher than hot water. Caffeine-citrate (formed by combining caffeine with citric acid) is much more readily dissolved when making energy drinks so a lot of these products lean towards citrus flavors or notes.
If you crazy bastards ever decide to do this again you should try goat energy
You are literally kidding me, these are my FAVORITE MIXED BAGS
i’m so worried for jake’s flight 😭
I feel bad for his seat neighbors.
Jesus Christ! y'all are doing the Lords work. Praise be the sommeliers!
If anyone reading this feels curious I recommend looking into the gorilla mind founder, pretty weird guy, I wouldn't necessarily call him problematic. But has a weird origin story as a pickup guru. Lolcow adjacent
Honestly worth the Google if you're a fan of incredible delts
A free episode was bestowed upon us desolate waifs, and my squirters are squirting
😂😂😂 people only know the rockstar reference if they have psychopaths as family
YEEEESSSS MY GOATS ARE BACK
Wait til they find out they missed out on a Baja Blast flavored Ryse
Murph my guy, speaking as someone about to turn 40 in a week, ya gotta keep those energy drinks to an absolute minimum. Follow in the footsteps of your wife. We all love you and want you to keep DMing to a ripe old age. Energy drinks are the antithesis of the healthy grindset. #ToKnowledge
i wasn’t expecting an LSU mention since Zac Roll Tide Oyama isn’t here
C’mon now!
C4 grape is just grapico with pre workout mixed in and it's the best energy drink on this blue marble
Either theres more right wing podcasts with energy drinks I dont know of or i know EXACTLY which energy drink they disregarded 😂
There’s a bunch, and Gorilla Mind is owned by a manosphere influencer. I’m assuming you’re talking about Prime, but there’s also Echelon and Bulkhead (both developed by the U.S. military), Soldier Fuel, Rip It (popular during the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan), GO (created by grifter Jocko Willink), and Black Rifle Energy (by the scumbags that brought you Black Rifle coffee). Also the CEO of Bang is a freak just wanna add that.
I was literally JUST registering to the energy drink sommelier episodes. Thank you for sacrificing your regular heart rhythms for this
Heads up this may have been released on the wrong subscription tier? I'm on 'One Big Bed' and have never been able to see Mixed Bags before...
Also you forgot to give us homework! :D Just joshin!
Unironically crestfallen that my go to energy drink got booted round 1
Emily please run a Hot Boy Summer spinoff where they’re on the Party Plane version of Love Island
i would lose my mind this is gold
The natural next step is pre-workout sommeliers
Livvy Dunns energy drink 😭
The 2 crew having livvy dunn’s energy drink means that there is now a tenuous connection from naddpod to baby gronk
A part 3 of my favorite mixed bag series!!! My day has been absolutely made
Emily's correct the flavor of a white gummy bear is pineapple!!
I've been out of the game for too long, I don't recognize a single one of those names. I'm sure I'll learn my new favorite, though.
Anyone remember the energy drink from around 2006 called Cocaine?! About the size of a red bull and my friend drank a whole one before first period and was buzzing and vibrating before passing out before the first period was over
These things got banned so fast
was this an accidental upload as someone of the $5 tier?
I’m wondering the same thing lol
The haters know nothing, the complete uslessness of the tang/bang ratings was the best part of the last one
Appreciate the attempt at avoiding the manosphere, and pre-pointing and laughing at the bots who always auto-comment when the phrase "right wing" is uttered on this show
🤯
This level of energy drink radness is absolutely frying all the neurons in my gorilla mind #ToKnowledge
Well, this can't go wrong!
Oh no
Screaming, crying, throwing up. Very excited to listen to this!
The military patrons are about to have a field day
Tang bloody tastic! That’s my morning dog walk listen sorted tomorrow!
Damn I was hoping for March Radness
Can’t wait to listen. Also: I’m a sommelier, and Day one fan of J&A, 8Bit Book Club, and Naddpod, I devour these episodes. AMA (and keep making more of this)
Upvote this guy to karma heaven
THE SUDS BUDS ARE BACK
Holy cow was just listening to the Eldermourne short rest where you guys had the idea for the first go around what a pleasant surprise
I'M AT 10 TANG AND 10 BANG RN
Fully tanged up rn
energy drink somms i missed you!!!! 🥳🥳🥳
Nap trapped with baby and this drops right as I finished catching up on the new ep 👌🙌
Can’t wait to see you guys at Radio City!! Calooh Callay!!!
Samzy
ITS BEEN TOO LONG YESSSS
I really hope this one has another classic Murph freakout
OMG
oh hell yeah was just listening to the other ones lol
Omg calooh fucking callay
Yes!!!!!!
