D&D Court: Overpopulated Academies, Unsent Texts and Pop-Punk Homework
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I just find it bizarre to sign up for a green day themed campaign and then say its too big of an ask to listen to one of their albums. Why join the campaign to begin with?
I find "green day themed campaign" sufficiently bizarre on its own. Like... what?
I've acted as a player character bridge between the DM and the worldbuilding they were doing and getting the party interested in certain aspects of it before. The DM was juggling a lot of plates IRL and maybe offered us too many possible hooks, and as someone with ADHD, it was stressing me out because it felt like there were too many hints leading us in different directions! Getting a direct hint from the DM that I could then roleplay with the group allowed me to relax a little and the DM to feel like his story would be engaged with. The whole party knew about it though, it wasn't a secret. I think if you do something like that, you have to let the party consent to it on some level.
Caldwell... If any of that is true: please watch The Jerk. It's so over home plate you're gonna love it. If that's a a joke I'm sorry that you're so good I didn't catch it but if it's that true at all please watch it
These cans are defective!
I want the full DnD court theme again. I’m sure there is copy right reasons for not doing so, but man, it’s is good.
The submitter in the “overpopulated academy” case should just log onto the video call (cuz they’re playing online right?) and mute themselves while they do something else. Read a book, fold laundry, whatever. Cuz that way you don’t feel quite so robbed of your time, and if you get called out on it you can just be like “well yeah it seems like I’m not really involved in this part so I’m just trying to keep my hands busy” or even “yeah I did kinda stop paying attention because honestly my guy, I’m kinda getting bored of doing nothing”
Goddammit the junk caught in the zipper bit is my dip spit 😭 And the high pitch voices was the first time I've ever agreed that it was unlistenable
Can’t un-hear the similarity in timbre between the zipper discussion and Kyle Mooney’s Sporty video (obviously dealing with completely different kinds of balls). Kept waiting for someone to bemoan how Daniels threw it all away.
The person should listen to the album. It’s frankly rude that they are being a pill. I would have another player tell them to stop being a stinker and find some curiosity about it.
boggy…i miss u…
about the American idiot dm, maybe play one song at a time in the sessions as you play and as they become relevant to the story
I feel really bad for the DM running entire npc sporting events They clearly have a lot of passion, it’s just so incredibly misdirected Also, my hot take: if you sign up to play in a highly conceptual greenday d&d game, listening to a green day album that’s shorter than an hour is not a big ask Maybe that game isn’t for you if it’s out of the question
The idea of sentencing someone for who "American Idiot" is a big ask to listen to "is this infected?!" is an 8th amendment violation
As a former law student, I would ask the court to please consider that getting that text and immediately asking for an apology is classic whiny law student behavior. Being in law school is essentially being taught how to susinctly and effectively whine
As a fellow former law student, I can verify that whining at the table does not stop in school lmao
“My NUTS, My FREAKING NUTS”
jesus guys i was crying laughing so hard at the fucking snortch bit that i ruined my makeup WHILE putting it on 😂😂😂😂
That’s the perfect time for Holliday cheer. WTF.
American idiot is the most over played garbage.. that isn't just a big ask.. its non negotiable.. I would not listen to it
The most overplayed is a stretch
Wow I can't believe Brian hates Jam Band people.
The American Idiot case is throwing me…on the one hand, yeah it can be a big ask to listen to an album if you’re not into the music, I guess, but also couldn’t you just look up the lyrics at least? You don’t have to listen to the songs, just read the lyrics to get the gist of the story which is all the DM wants. Idk maybe I’m a nerd who loves lore docs too much but doing a little learning of the world for a campaign doesn’t feel like a big ask to me as a player 😂
Listening to American Idiot is not a big ask for people who like the music, but it’s a big ask for those that don’t. I’d consider it a big ask to listen to an Imagine Dragons album, because arena pop gives me psychic damage. Honestly, I think the curt phrasing is slightly rude at most— and I would just laugh it off with a “lol fair enough” if it happened to me
why not just buff the monster's stats instead of lying and faking a knock-down
I do think asking someone to listen to a whole album as prep for a campaign is a big ask
“Whole album” it’s less than an hour though. Phrase it like that, not so big an ask
Am I the only one who thinks Green Day guy was asking too much?
I agree. I enjoy the American Idiot album. I have a pretty warm nostalgic memories of it. But, even I think a campaign based on a concept album doesn’t sound very fun and is very limited. This only could possibly work if everyone at the table has not already heard the album, but also loves it and are enthusiastically on board
No one likes homework.
The new Gorillaz record is fantastic, but it’s absolutely a “sit in your egg chair with headphones” kind of album.
I would sooner die than listen to pop punk I think
I feel like if you've pitched to the players "this is a Green Day themed campaign" then asking someone to have baseline familiarity with Green Day isn't unrealistic if they've agreed to be in the campaign.
FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT. it's literally a green day themed campaign. If listening to green day is too much, then the campaign is not for you
Bruce is in the garage
Whoops, wrong group chat
Amazing Coldewell had not seen the Jerk, he would fucking love it.
I need y’all to know that talking about Sum 41 made me pull up Pandora and create a station based off of “In Too Deep” and over the past half hour it has served up an immaculate list of no-skips: In Too Deep + Fat Lip The Anthem (Good Charlotte) First Date + All the Small Things (Blink-182) My Own Worst Enemy (Lit) The Middle (Jimmy Eat World) 1985 (Bowling for Soup) Never Let You Go (Third Eye Blind) So thank you for making my Sunday afternoon cleaning less of a drag!!!
Title it “in deep, but not too deep”
I really think sending out a lore email is completely different to listening to music in the background while you’re doing something. Like the a difference between something you have to actively engage in vs something you can passively engage in. I don’t like opera but if I was about to start a campaign and was given the option of reading a 15 page document or listening to a 45 minute opera playlist and both would prep me for the campaign, I’d listen any day of the week!
This faux-hogwarts fever dream made me park my car from laughing so hard.
In the middle of the highway no less!
Hey i just gotta shout out “pastketball” because it got a laugh out of me and went unacknowledged
Umm actually, (sorry) Adaine does have to call portents before the roll, but I believe there have been a couple slip-ups, and Brennan has probably allowed some bending of the rules a couple times
I think they established pretty early on that she could call it after, even though the rules do clearly state it should be decided before the roll has been announced. Honestly, I think that makes it more fun - you only get two portents, and wasting them feels bad.
I reject all Coldplay slander
I love music but there is not a single album someone could tell me to listen to for our Dungeons and Dragons campaign where I wouldn't look at that message and say "Wtf?" 😂 Most I could do without hesitation is a song. I'm a forever DM and I'm just happy my players show up with a character.
I know the school campaign with too many NPCs is awkward because they’ve already been playing it for years, but it should be normal for players and GM to check in about how any game is going! That just feels like good communication!
I would like a sticker of Bruce
Caldwell. Watch The Jerk. I loaned a friend my Blu Ray of The Jerk last year and that comment hit too close to home.
Did Murph say TL:DNR during the Green Day case?
I dunno if the order was for the dm Or me exactly but their punishment sounds like a great time! I’ll gee the two and a half beers, movie and album qued It was not a re do the same campaign but “ new scenarios with the same characters as in the same universe but starting at level 1 “ basically just continuing after all the events that were done staying cannon… but now being level 1, on the next session. I don’t know if that would have changed anything though! Thanks for the honerable decisions
I will say for the Green day story, not everyone loves music as a pastime. I haven't listened to an album front to back since high school and I would never want to. If a DM asked me to listen to an album to somehow Interpret its lyrics as to the world we're about to play in? It's actually way wilder of an ask then one who does just jam to bands all the time may think. I also would 100% not do it and pretend I did cuz I couldn't imagine I'd actually be out of the loop cuz I don't know some songs once the game starts rolling.
That was my thought too. I wonder how many people actually listened to the whole thing. Are there going to be inside jokes/lore you only get if you recently listened to the album?
No but okay, if someone can’t stand pop punk, then what are they doing playing in an American idiot inspired campaign? Also, just saying, that idea is fricking awesome and I wish I could play in it!
Because you only have the one group of friends that you play DND with and now you have to bow out for 6 months to a year so that your DM can just play out his infatuation with green day?
"Being very Sasuke about it." Is a sentence I'm adopting into my lexicon.
I had to stop the pod listen to American Idiot start to finish to re-enjoy and then fire the pod back up
if the dm can take the time to do all the prep work for a campaign, you can listen to a single album once. If you don't want to, fuck off, you don't want to play the game that badly
I feel like this is an entitled take to ones time outside of the table. They could probably still show up and enjoy the campaign
Not them thinking they've done portents right by calling them after the roll 😆 Siobhan even did it right (before the roll) throughout s1 of fantasy high
This has nothing to do with this episode but I need the community to know and discuss that this week's new episode of Law & Order SVU was centered on a guy who gooned in the oats
Interestingly, there is one episode in all of NADDPOD that left me wanting and it happens to be a holiday one-shot. I’ll take a large L for that!
Testicular torsion is just the worst. The pain is awful, but the most memorably uncomfortable part is having an ultrasound technician spend 30 minutes using your nethers for baoding balls whilst you frantically fight your social anxiety/ADHD impulse to break into a dysfunctional Robin Williams-like patter of dumb jokes to break the awkwardness that is 100% in your own head and not even registering for the medical professional attempting to do his no-doubt tedious job.
Omg I remember talking to the EMTs the whole ride to the hospital after I collapsed at work after I had an ovarian torsion! Like... I knew I didn't need to talk but the words simply were pulled out of me for 20 minutes
Not enough attention given to the gem of TL,DNR
Too Late; Do Not Resuscitate
Brian “Tiny ‘L’ to start the ep, tiny ‘L’ to end it” Murphy… 2014 Portent DOES stipulate that you need to declare you are using it before the roll even occurs. I choose to believe BLM was aware of this but chose to let Siobhan use it after results because he tends to narrate combat after events occur, rather than telegraph every move done by enemies.
Agreed. Also, with how compressed D20 is compared to a typical campaign, I feel like one might want to emphasize the significance of the portent rolls in keeping with their increased scarcity. Otherwise there would likely be larger ratio of 'wasted' portents compared to the triumphant repostes when Siobhan employed them. This heightening is especially fitting for a melodramatic teenage drama setting.
Totally agree about the ambient music in the new Gorillaz album. I like it but I feel that itch to skip around all the same
This episode was less about D&D and more about how wild people are lol
I guess this is a hot take, but listening to a 57 min album one single time kinda sounds like nothing to me. A lot of DMs put in multiple hours of prep per session. I think one could muster putting some music on while they work, go to the gym, do an activity, etc. Obviously, this excludes deaf/hard of hearing and others with possible sensory issues.
I think I'd rather read several pages of world building than listen to an hour long album
My heart dropped as I head the Magic School case, I am running a similar setup, but the PCs are Faculty and have to deal with all the magical shenanigans AND protect the kids from evil organizations out to kidnap or kill or indoctrination
I think as long as the players are actually involved and you don't RP 16 NPCs you're good
I usually agree with you guys, but I think you were WAY off with the Green Day DM. Asking someone to listen to a full album is A BIG ASK. Especially someone like me that rarely listens to music and prefers podcasts.
Even if it is A BIG ASK they did offer alternatives that some people could feasibly do. I mean you could find a podcast that breaks down the themes and such, right?
The average adult can read 183 words per minute when reading out loud. The average page is about 250 words. So it takes about 1.37 minutes to read a page. Listening to the entire American idiot album takes the same amount of time as reading a 41 page lore document. That seems like a big ask. It’s a cool way to do it incorporate lore, but I agree with the player.
This. I was thinking they were way off with that one. It IS a big ask.
The green day campaign dm should incorporate the album's songs into their narration like play a song while they're recapping previous sessions or dropping lore, itd be so cool actually. I wanna know so much more about that campaign 😂
It's basically Curse of Strahd with a lot of Green Day influence. The main mode of travel is by rail line and they have to navigate The City of the Damned, looking for the lost hero, Jesus of Suburbia to help defeat the evil St. Jimmy. There's only three players so that's most of the reason I wrote in. It only came up with the player in question because they kept making South Park jokes when I said St. Jimmy and told me they hadn't listened yet and thought it was more fun to imagine the BBEG as some South Park character.
So help me gods if you make a DM screen with zipper misshapen i would buy it so fast
Did someone submit TaZ graduation as a question? Because it really sounds like it lmao
my thoughts IMMEDIATELY
Thank you for the absolution deacons! I am enjoying a croissant :) btw portent rolls have always needed to be declared before the roll
As a DM myself I would bet the DM was scrambling for a way to keep your character alive and was jumping at the chance to bend the rules a bit and allow the portent. DMs talk a big game but in reality we are usually just as invested in a PCs story and don’t want it cut too short.
I'm pretty sure that Portent rolls have always had to be used before the roll RAW. Not many people play it like that though, because it just sort of bogs down the pace of play if you have to wait to announce every die roll until the wizard decides if he wants to use portent
all of those "after the roll but before the results are announced" abilities are so tough to use correctly :/
ties r already back grandpas
someone on the naddpod reddit made a choose your own adventure based off the shitiverse!! you guys should do it as an adventure book theatre!!! https://www.reddit.com/r/NotAnotherDnDPodcast/s/piCjMps1JH
34:27 PASSketball??? this guy
I couldn’t believe Pastketball got glossed over. It was gold.
The first one is so funny because sometimes you gotta drop the meta lol like yeah man it’s Christmas and I want to see my friends and play D&D with you 😂
To the player who can't see any reason why they would use their potent roll if it would result in a failed death save: honestly? If the party is certain they can get you back up on your feet before your next death save, then using the portented 4 to guarantee your single failure sounds like an extremely sound tactical decision to me. After all, it makes no difference whether the portent roll is a success or a failure - unless you're using some homebrew rules where the number of failures has some kind of impact when you pop back up, it doesn't make a difference whether you have a success or a failure. You'd be using the portent roll because it's a guaranteed survival for that round, as opposed to quite literally rolling the dice on a 1/20 chance of instant death before anyone can do anything about it. As your roll demonstrated, that's a pretty smart play!
Listening to ONE album as campaign notes is SO easy. But how is that fantasy theme or anything related to dnd? It doesnt sound fun at all to play a Green Day themed campaign.
To you* id be hyped if my dm put in the work to make a green day themed campaign. Funny to draw a line in what's considered fantasy lol
The Nut bit gave me flashbacks to the band of boobs fighting Akorat
Most dnd people don't get to play dnd every week, most tables end abruptly, and it matters if the game is fun to play with your friends. It's okay to care that about the game being played a certain way.
its "does this look infected?" sorry murph thats another tiny L
Hot take: the demon prince dm is not only a good dm but also a good friend, it kinda sucks to be knocked out all combat especially for a boss fight so they checked with the paladin up top if they could hard target them to heighten the stakes for the other players rather than just doing it w/o asking and have the paladin sidelined (and if previous cases have taught us anything) despondent
Right? As a GM, I often touch base with my players privately if I'm going to use mechanics or tactics which I know they might feel rough about on a bad week. Hell, if there's a part of a character's kit which I wanna put a limiter on for a specific encounter for some reason, then my players often have the BEST ideas for how to put that into effect in a way that still excites them. Every player is different in their preferred surprise-to-input ratio, so I've had the best luck just straight telling some players more than others, based on how much everyone says they want to know. You can literally always ask: 'I'm futzing with the upcoming combat, do you want to have input or would you rather be surprised?'
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Lesbians wish XD been popular is so many other circles for so long. Good try tho
Ha! Murph said he likes dookie
Murph with the based Coldplay take!
Murph just throwing out under his breath "it's not good" regarding Sum 41's "Is this infected" album just kicked high school me right in the balls. Good times!
Bruce is in the garage.
For the first case if your character matters that much. Just make a funny new character since it’s not canon. Like if it doesn’t feel right to play a character that’s super dark just make a new goofy little Christmas elf. Most of my Christmas one shots I do are all new characters and just a real from the main story but if they want to use the same character I don’t mind.
“Bruce is in the garage” has the same pleasing sound and cadence as “but this is ridiculous” and I can tell it’s going to worm into my brain in the same way lol
Did you just say watch "All 5 Dragon Ball movies" Caldwell? Sir, there are over 20.
For the law school case I definitely see how it could be viewed in the same way as a relationship, I don't even think an apology would have helped as since you know categorically you can't trust what is real and what isn't from that point on after the "cheating"
Bruce is in the garage
In the level-reset case, did no one question that the plot hadn't advanced during the 12 levels they had already played?
Emily, I also immediately thought of the pong video game and was trying to figure out how those sounds would be transferred into a pongcast lol
I started the D100 table on the subreddit, if we all work together, we can do it <3
Caldwell you *have* to watch The Jerk though
I feel like the Green Day case might be better resolved by just asking the player to read the lyrics for the songs in the album, or, as suggested, reading the Wiki page for the album. I get not wanting to spend an hour listening to music you don't like, but it would be like a 5-10 minute read with the lyrics
Totally agree. Plus some people can't hear words when they listen to music - I often will catch some of the words or refrains but not really get enough of it to understand all the words, much less pick up on the big themes and narratives in such a way that I would be able to do a DnD read! If the lore is what the DM wants them to get from it, they should have asked players to either listen to read the lyrics, IMO.
This one was truly unhinged im dying 😂 god i love these guys
'lets to hunt the grinch' would be a great Halloween mini campaign. Possibly in a strahd-ish setting.
would a Hag StatBlock be good for the Grinch ? or is Stahd Trickster Enough with his Wall schenanigans
The school campaign is giving McElroys
The first half of the description was just Graduation 😅
This Squirmysnake slander will not be tolerated Murph :(
Okay this first case is really bugging me. From the wording of it, it sounds like this really messed up thing JUST happened to the PC, and they were probably excited about getting into it. Doing DBZ Movie rules is perfectly fine, but when your player brings up the concern about the tone, you have to *explain* the dubious canonicity rather than "Laugh it off." I'm aware that it's an automatic L to be this convicted about a podcast I pay money to enjoy but I'm WORKED UP
Im almost certain that it was at least mentioned once that the grinch, claymation reindeer, ect are not canon in this multi-year campaign. Though Emily mentioned a cursory text about the sessions plot/tone should have been sent beforehand given what the character had just been through. Which I totally agree with.
Snuggledorf Snotcher
What's Jake recording in? A nano-something?
I believe it’s an IPod nano. Hope this helps.
Hell yeah baby DUN DUN!
Perfect timing ❤️