Short Rest: Trinyvale X Strahd - Ep. 8

relistening to this over a year later and i just HAD to do the math on only ageing in dog years while transformed into a werewolf lol. So, if the yearly average night cycle is 12 hours and there are about 12 full moons a year (and we'll go with the old "1 dog year is 7 human years thing"), this means you age 42 extra days or 6 extra weeks each year. Since there are ~52 weeks in a year, a werewolf would age ~1.12 times faster than an average human. This doesn't amount to much on a yearly basis. But say you were expected to live until 75 as a human. If you were turned into a werewolf at 20 years old, your life expectancy would now be 69 years (lol). Honestly, that's a fairly realistic conversion considering how stressful it must be to be a werewolf!

This always gets me when I relisten! Kate's vampire character falls for a hot werewolf/vampire hybrid in Underworld! And Kevin Grevioux was not only a super hot werewolf but one of the writers. Also, everything I've ever read of vampire and werewolf traditional stories (I'm forever fascinated with folk tales and mythology and morality tales, and once wrote a Comparative Mythology paper the morning it was due about Anne Rice vs Bram Stoker vs older stories from Romania/Wallachia, I'm deep in the vampire lore) seems less about STIs and more about SA. Vampires are coercion and werewolves are blitz attacks. And the ones who survive are forever marked as unclean and shunned. That's not just STIs, that is being seen as less-than because they were "defiled" though no fault of their own I'm sure a lot of people don't agree with that, especially people who went to school for this stuff, but if you read the old stories you'll see why that was my conclusion.

Crocs on his hands and crocs on his feet Cross-body bag while he sprints down the street Friendly smile from white sharp teeth Vegetarian Gregg is the guy you want to meet

The werewolf age acceleration reminds me of the speedster Track Star from the game Dispatch. He could move at 50 times the speed of a human but his body aged at 50times the rate when he sped up, which was tragic

Gotta say as a person who worked in whole foods: people do unhinged shit. Someone went to the meat counter, opened it, took a raw lamb piece, and left it on the shelf with nothing around it. I'd ask the wolf man to shoot me and put me outta my misery. (They let people steal but yell at us about the loss but wanted us to do...nothing? I quit when they told us we had alloted non paid time off and we'd be fired if we got sick lol)

As someone who’s watched Click A LOT… I’m dying at how accurate your guess’ of the plot are

The dream journal trinket came up in my Strahd game, and yes the player immediately bonded it to someone else and learn their deeams.

I've fallen down a double black diamond, lost one ski in a tree and the other was floating down a creak. I was rescued by a snowboarder who very kindly climbed up the tree to get my ski for me. He had those reflective goggles and a mask on but I'v been a little in love with that stranger ever since lol

Click for Mixed Bag? 😏🤔

I need to info dump here; I have facts to share but I can’t remember them. The book Vampyre is where the whole ‘brooding, good looking, smooth talking, astorcracy (can’t spell)’ vampire comes from. It’s an inspiration for Batman, Dracula and if I had to guess, Strahd. Before vampires were thought of bloated creatures of the night. I’ll add more plus my sources but yeah!

“Were you in the Olympics?!?! 🫨🫨🫨🫨🫨”

He's 36 and won't eat a tomato? Caldwell, are you talking shit about Nathan Yaffe?

Emily axford probably in top 10 dnd players in world, not a double black diamond in anything

Emily "Written Multiple Full Albums Of Incredible Music" Axford saying there's nothing in her life she's a double black diamond is insane btw

"What Happens in Movies: 'Have I Not Seen This?' Edition" The hits just pour out.

I’ve been having a lot of plane crash dreams as well lately! I had one last night a plane crashed into an interstate highway system and nobody batted an eye at all

"uh oh! ive gotta carve down the whole thing or im gonna die!!" relatable experience

The voice / vibe of Vallachia sounds like Remmick, Joan, and Bert from Sinners. 🖤🖤🖤

Duplicate spell is from Obojima!!! The new book built for 5e but it's theme is Legend of Zelda meets Studio Ghibli inspired with 80s tech! The artwork and everything is so awesome! All you naddpod fans need to check it out. Its on dnd beyond too for (2014)5e classes. (The team who created it is out of Portland, OR) (im from Oregon!) 😁😁😁 so psyched that murph bought that and clearly shared content with everyone!

Can't believe we missed the hat trick of Jake characters turning into monsters (spoilers I guess) Hardwon - vamp Mavis - ghoul Nyack - where we're wereing, we don't need no stinking wolves

Murph absolutely nails the Click synopsis. That movie traumatized me as a kid, I don't wanna miss out on life 😭

Putty wizard and hair vampire in one episode!

30:09 Murphy answering Emily's "am i good enough for you" bit with such a sincere "yessssss" 😍🤣❤️

Not me forgetting this is a podcast not a discord server and almost yelling about the movie underworld

I don't know if it is based on it or not but there is a short story called Peter and the magic thread about a boy who gets the ability to fast forward time.

This short rest has me fiending for a episode of surprise round!

Also Um, Actually! The Double Blacks at Lake Placid are fairly accessible! Minus the sheer ice you get when skiing the east coast. They have the Olympic courses marked on the Whiteface trail maps so you can live out your sports hero fantasies.

Okay the DND Court case was a player who wanted to press a bar of soap into the key held by the guard to create an imprint, then use that imprint to copy the key. Absolutely wild convoluted planning by the player.

this whole thing was a fever dream

Petition for a view crew review of the 2006 (sorry Murph) Adam Sandler smash hit "Click". Cause thats when life happens

The way I see it, in order to tackle the werewolf vs vampire question, one must first establish the specific lore they’re drawing from. Specifically, in answering which is worse, I’d wanna know to what extent, if at all, becoming a vampire entails losing your human soul. To a lesser but still relevant extent, Id also wanna know (among other things) if the hypothetical existed in a world where werewolves were highly persecuted by vampires (a la underworld) as well as to what extent both creatures were actively hunted by mortals. All of which is to say that imo There’s j too much differing lore out there to weigh vampires against werewolves w/o preemptively determining what lore specifically to go by

omg I’m so sensitive I’m tearing up at the end where they say the kids singing Aladdin in the back of the car…there’s when life happens. I don’t even have kids but i think that’s right

I would pay good money for a mixed bag where the crew watches Click, mostly so I can hear them talk about the emotional whiplash of suddenly bursting into tears during that one Henry Winkler scene.

I'm gonna start making and "that's when life happens" references everywhere and really, that's where life happens

In general on the conversation Werewolf’s often represent transformation, duality, and repressed desires. There are some comparisons to sexual diseases on the lines of the repressed desires and how it can spread between two people at night. The modern vampire often represent fear of the unknown, exploitation, and sexuality. The later two often relates to abuse especially as thralls and spawn often are turned by force. This especially comes into play with wealth component as vampires are often depicted as wealthy and werewolves often are more “naturalistic”

Amazing that Murph didn't remember the plot of Click but absolutely sniped the "fast-forwarded through his wife talking" scene.

Noooooo nooooo. It is absolutely NOT all about lobbing in badminton and you can absolutely smash the SHUTTLECOCK to get a point and in fact it’s very common. Excuse you, Jack.

Jake should’ve had disadvantage, the target doesn’t matter, just if a hostile creature is within 5 feet :/

If you think there's no spiking in badminton, then you haven't watched Olympic/Paralympic badminton. It's fast-paced and way more hardcore than I ever could have imagined.

The whole ski vs snowboard pitch could be a Mavrus Chronicles one-shot-turned-mini-campaign

For those looking to use it in their setting, Duplicate is not from the 2024 Players Handbook, it's from the 3rd party sourcebook Obojima (https://obojima.com) that's a Miyazaki setting. DND Beyond defaults to enabling new 3rd party sourcebooks whenever you create a new character until you disable it. (And if you're in a campaign run by someone who has the "unlimited, everything ever released on DND Beyond" - regardless whichever campaign that character you are creating ends up in - you too will have all these books at your disposal even if you never knew about them, so double check your spell sources in their descriptions).

The good old bar of soup key dnd court

Thank u whoever edited and posted this xox

That was jawesome. Prime short rest energy

Historical Homos podcast released a good ep recently called “The Queer History of Vampires” if anyone is looking for a fun, queer-centric discussion on the significance of vampires in folklore from ancient times through to modern day pop culture

There are a few Werewolf stories were they actually stop aging in there werewolf form. But they do age in their human form. So their lifespan is actually lengthened a little bit.

I can’t believe I was around for the episode where Murph and Emily got a divorce…crazy…

Wow. I wasn't going to go to my son's graduation but...maybe I should

Zealous Nyack has similar vibes to Immortal Kenneth from 30 Rock - it's hilarious.

Dog years for an werewolf is so funny

Guys. Please. Please please please please do a View Crew episode for Click. It was the movie I watched on my first ever date when I was 12, and I need my rose-colored glasses to be shattered by you menaces (AND WOMENACES!)

As an avid D&D Court listener and re-listener, without getting into specifics, you guys do generally practice what you preach. It’s all on brand and consistent.

"Wolves are sexy, too. To me," Jake Hurwitz, 2025. In Van Helsing 2004, the wolves were incredibly sexy! Well, to me.

Ever since the Grinch came bounding out of that cave on all fours… Anything “bounding” will always crack me up

My two mottos: "This is ridiculous" and "That's when life happens"

Now we know why we will never see Murph on Smartypants

jake soft announcing he's a furry by saying he wants wolves to be sexy

Dead body on the zoom (thats when life happens) is one of my favourite albums

I believe that ravens and wolves have been shown to share a symbiotic relationship in the wild where a raven will track prey for wolves and then be allowed to feast on the carcass afterwards. So a Werewolf Nyack could have had a raven companion, maybe even a familiar friend from Bahumia that another Jake character was never able to form a real relationship with

Teen Wolf was a thinly veiled allusion to being a black guy, and no, that's not just my personal theory.

Lake George mention! Only place I have heard a wolf howl and it was spine chilling.

Caldwell wants to talk about Nishinoya so badly and we should let him

Can *perfectly* imagine Amir as Teen Wolf in the sketch getting the bad news

just gonna join the chorus of people saying that Em is a singular talent. there are people as funny as her, people that embody their characters like her, and people that can carry a scene like her - but truly no one does all three quite like Em can.

They were probably thinking of Fabricate when they were talking about Duplicate

Just wanted to say that Emily is clearly a double black diamond/Olympic Gold medallist of Comedy as Murph was saying but also as A DnD player/DM (shout out Hot Boy Summer and Twilight Sanctorum!

It’s so funny to hear Emily say she doesn’t think she’s a double diamond at anything when I think she is singularly one of the most talented improv performers around.

I’m a Sagittarius Sun, Leo Rising, Sagittarius Moon. This was hilarious

Emily, please do a podcast called Em’s Dreams! I’m here for it.

A 36 year old who won't eat a tomato? That's just a Nathan Yaffee call-out 😂

Click was a great movie! My dad took me to see it 3 times in theaters.... I think he may have been having a rough time tbh

Fun fact about werewolf lore/history. Not Just the Tudors has an episode about a real life werewolf trial where a guy named Old Tiess claimed to be a werewolf. Every once in awhile, people will pop up in historical witchcraft trials claiming to be werewolves but they fight on the side of good. They claim that every year Witches from hell try to drag fertile soil down to hell with them and the werewolves are there to fight off the evil Witches. Pretty metal!

we need an emily dream journal segment because as someone with weird dreams it was very funny hearing her talk about hers

Click Mixed Bag when?

Good to know that Jake is on the side of werewolves

If werewolves revert to dog years in wolf form and are only in wolf form during the night of the full moon, you’d probably lose a little under a month of your life per year as a werewolf. After about 13 years, that’s a full year gone.

This is the origin to Jake’s gradual descent into becoming a furry.

I saw Click with my older cousin Trent in theaters and I'm pretty sure we both cried at the end

Also, idk that « people » say that werewolves are a metaphor for STDs, I know my enemy JK Rowling has said that, specifically about aids, and it was very poorly received, even before her abominable heal turn. Werewolf have been around since ancient times and are usually a metaphor for like the duality of man caught between his primal nature and like.. societal expectations and such, it’s about repressed desires and rage and such. Also puberty sometimes

Kinda Crazy that Murph kinda just nailed click without even seeing it 😂

Can we consider weregarurumon as a familiar? Hine leg bad ass looking talking werewolf?

Hearing Emily theorize about Vampire symbolism reminds me of “The Vampire: A New History” by Nick Groom. Very interesting monograph that discusses the roles of the vampire in European folklore and history. Highly recommend it!

Okay so Kate Beckinsale is a vampire in Underworld, in which vampires and werewolves are at war with each other. The werewolf leader being played by a very sexy Michael Sheen, who was also dating Kate at the time. Michael Sheen of course went on to play a vampire in Twilight, whereas Kate Beckinsale played a vampire hunter in Van Helsing. A movie in which werewolves are Dracula’s thralls once they have completely transformed but also a werewolf is the only thing that can kill Dracula, which is how Hugh Jackman’s Van Helsing -who is also the arch angel Gabriel, and as we all know Michael Sheen did go on to play an angel on Good Omens- ultimately defeats him, by temporarily becoming a werewolf before being cured right at the last minute, but also Kate Beckinsale dies, which sucks. Thank you for coming to my ted talk.

“Am I good enough for you?” The immediate “yes” from Murph was so sweet

It's very Avatar "There is no war in Ba Sing Se"

So despite being young, hot, and sexy, I also have so many health issues that basically have turned me into a vampire and I can say it’s not for the weak. I can’t go outside w/o 100 spf sunscreen and long sleeves, even in the winter, and have some sort of electrolyte beverage with me everywhere so I can make enough blood to not pass out. Naddpod has been a life saver all the millions of times I’ve had to go to the er for fluids bc I almost passed out again bc I didn’t have enough blood in my brain, so yall are totally right. Being a vampire fucking sucks. But hey atleast we’re hot tho

PLEASE MIXED BAG WHERE THE TWO CREW WATCHES CLICK

Very relevant to the werewolf conversation are the Werewolves videos by Monstrum on PBS. Warning: you'll probably want to watch all her videos. https://youtu.be/6xPFdX5qEyk?si=e3Nt8ZAppEZpyDTH

The dungeon court case you were thinking about was the one about pressing a key into a bar of soap and then melting metal into the indent to replace the key, I think! You decided it was kinda stupid because it was kinda stupid.

Them talking about being wasted and then relating it to warging reminded me of that zachthebold skit with the 2 drink limit

i am taking writing the feature film class this year, if you want i will spend the semester writing the vampire/werewolf mountain movie and i will love it and my professor might not 🫶🏽

Maybe this gets addressed later in the podcast, but rules clarification for the curious! Duplicate looks to be a 3rd party spell, as are (I think) basically all of Jens' spells this campaign. Technically not official, but dndbeyond's format is confusing, especially since I assume they own like every book on it.

I think people who say that hearing other people's dreams is boring are weird af, you heard that one time on the internet and thought it was a slam dunk to make fun of people forever, yall are simply not curious people

hi emily, native romanian speaker here (apparently moldovan and romanian are officially glottonyms for the same language) let me know if you want any phrases spoken into a microhpone :^)

Please watch Click as a mixed bag. I cried during it

Free the west bank

This episode is so lost in the tank, the tank is hidden in the beyond section of Bed, Bath, and Beyond.

I won't stand for this misunderstanding of badminton rules. You guys were talking about serving, but beyond that you can absolutely spike a shuttlecock. Also, thank you for giving me the context to type the word 'shuttlecock'.

I'm enjoying the homebrew/3rd party spells. They're so interesting. Endoleech was great. Over and out 🫡

guys please do vampire the masquerade or werewolf the apocalypse you need to after the insanity of this episode

as a worker at whole foods, i resent the idea that i wouldn't be able to handle a naked man at the hot bar- i feel good about it.

tysm actively moving into college 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽