Mixed Bag of Holding: Revenge of the Sith Review

This movie rules, honestly If anyone is curious, Murph did an episode of the Cracked podcast about episode 3. He actually sounds like he’s having fun in that one I’m honestly so perplexed by this review. They went out of their way to be kind to the previous films, this one is leagues better and they treat it way harsher

Jumping Fish Opera would be a great band name (26:45)

Gotta play KOTOR. The twist is awsome

Hey, I know this might be random…but this year, 2025, would be the 10th anniversary of Episode VII, do you think it’d be interesting if the two crew watched and reviewed the sequel trilogy, rather the original?

Emily!!! If you love Coruscant you need to watch Andor! It is literally the BEST Star Wars media ever made. Hardly even Star Wars like, it's just amazingly done.

Caldwell not liking the clone wars is wild to me. But the first season is really for kids then they find their audience and its the best star wars content. This is the prequel show you want!

can't wait for Emily to play Sebulba on the next season of starstruck on d20!!!

I just finished watching Revenge of the Sith (for the very first time!) and can confirm that Duel of the Fates IS in fact played during the Obi Wan/Anakin duel!

A saw a video where someone compared Hayden Christiansen’s line delivery and rhythmic cadence and compared it to the way James Earl Jones delivered Vader’s lines and it was a perfect fit. Truly, he was playing 3D chess and only got flack for his delivery for years!

Just stumbled upon a huge discovery, Emily was right about the heft the whole time, look at this snippet from George Lucas: https://youtube.com/shorts/IZvs5vzy5Bg?si=8cOx8vaDOKjgDRZD

I feel like Clone Wars is a bit of a difficult show to get into without a guide of which arcs to skip. I have had trouble introducing it to people in the past. I like the show, but its various arcs are not super connected and greatly vary in quality. Personally I think that The Bad Batch might be a bit easier to get into and recommend it to anyone who wants to get more into the star wars animation world. You'll miss out on some of the references from not seeing Clone Wars, but it is a more connected story that follows a more consistent group of characters. The story even picks up right at the end of Revenge of the Sith. You will have to deal with the super distracting casting of a grown man to play a child in the first episode.

Objectively, yes the Prequels are not great movies. Is it still my favorite Trilogy? Yes.

Count Dooku was Yoda's last padawan and Qui-gon Jin's master. He is know as the most prolific saber duelist in the galaxy. They totally did Dooku and Christopher Lee dirty in these movies.

"Do the prequels again but make them cool!" That's literally all they did with Clone Wars, it's pretty much their attempt at retconning the prequels to be cool

I really want them to check out “What if the prequels were good”, it’s a really good hypothetical remake https://youtu.be/VgICnbC2-_Y?si=cqreLzjklmlt8RPu

I was the perfect age to think the prequels were brilliant masterpieces and the dialogue was genius. (9-12 yrs old) Watching them again, I’m feeling very grateful for that 😂😂😂

I need them to watch the 2003 clone wars series. It’s only like an hour on YouTube and it’s so good.

The Aayla Secura slander is crazy

Watch the Clone Wars cartoon!

they have the (now non-canon) reason grievous coughs in the genndy tartakovsky 2003 the clone wars cartoon (a MUST watch)

The (sarlacc) pit

I don't think any amount of doing Count Dooku dirty could eclipse Christopher Lee's career even before Saruman. Among other things, his time in the SAS is widely credited as being one of Ian Fleming's inspirations for James Bond

I'm surprised Murphy was okay with them taking a huge dump all over Luke.

“You know a movie is good when you have to read the novelization and watch the cartoon series to understand” Murph gets it 😭

Next Caldwell drawing stream I would love to see lizard as a force ghost!!

I also identify as having BBBE, big beep boop energy

The Jedi youngling who almost made it out was actually George Lucas's son

Everything Murph said about the sequel movies is 100% correct and I thank you

Recommendation for Caldwell, if you end up getting to KOTOR. If you play KOTOR 2 on PC, try to get the content restoration mod. The game released unfinished, and while it's still a great play, there's a ton of content that didn't make the cut that should have. It'll make the experience a bit stronger if you're able to get it

the pitt mention is unexpectedly timely of yall i was pleased

Clone wars was a slog? BLASPHEMER!!!

Finding out Caldwell did not get into Clone Wars was truly SHOCKING to me. It gets so so so good. I highly suggest giving it another try! It's literally a prequel mini series about Anakin and Obi Wons adventures. We get more interesting planets, more of obi wan trying to steer Anakin away from the dark side, more cool lightsabor fights, more POVs of order 66, AND OBI WON HAS A BAD ASS DUCHESS GF!

i love emily being the worlds most hesitant sequel supporter. it’s so funny being in star wars bc who gaf truly

I would love to see a review of a Legends canon SW book. I think Emily would have some amazing takes on Mara Jade.

The Clone Wars show is amazing and really picks up after the first 2 seasons. Definitely started as a kids show until they recognized that wasn’t their main audience lol

Cannot believe we got a The Pitt shoutout on NADDPOD 😭

Listening to everyone talk about how they want more material from the Prequel time frame makes me want to shout WATCH STAR WARS THE CLONE WARS Animated Series. I know that there are some stinkers in that content early on, but the development of Anakin's character is amazing, the mid and later seasons are compelling, and it arguably has the best light saber fight in the entire franchise!

The clone wars shows definitely fill some of the character arc for Anakin a little better than the movies did. You get some glimpses into his fall

Funnily enough, the emotional reaction from obi wan that Emily is asking for is kind of half of the plot of the Kenobi show.

Does anybody else desperately need them to watch/review spaceballs? Like I wanna see everybody’s reaction to that

For the book readers, Star Wars Lost Stars might be one of the best Star Wars book/just kinda books I have ever read. Taking place during the original trilogy, it dives so deep into the imperial indoctrination and the differences that can occur during civil war. If you liked Andor, you'll love this

For Caldwell, KoToR is really good. Its a bit dated but holds up really well, but I highly, highly suggest going into it blind.

Caldwell, read Revan and play Kotor, it is the finest part of the universe

The Clone Wars starts out weak but establishes good characters, and by the end, that last arc of S7 rips your heart out.

Please don’t do when did things come out….

"People hate the sequels in a way that is not correct" is my new favorite Murph quote

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I have not watched a single piece of Star Wars media so this Mixed Bag series is my first real exposure to the franchise, I understand barely anything they’re talking about but the vibes are immaculate

If you guys really want to get into a starwars book please give the darth Bane books a try! They are dark and gritty and they tell you about why there is only two sith in the modern starwars.

@Caldwell: Want a good Star Wars book? "I, Jedi" I don't remember how it goes, but I remember it being damn good. AND play KOTOR.

Grievous is Sebulba.

I side with Murph, and have forever. Star War's universe and idea is awesome. The movies kind of suck.

“are we gonna see a butt in this movie? no, actually a bunch of kids die.” 🤣

Once again I recommend the clone wars cartoon. It feels like that's when they take time to explore the worldbuilding.

Remember when Emily used to sing a little song in her head and wait for the star wars talk to pass?? A lot of things have changed....

These should be the next mixed bag. It's a "parody" but it's actually better than all of the prequels. You're welcome. https://youtu.be/WSCm8yAxBr8?si=IDo1e1MJjm9JUor7

hayden christensen is soooo murph coded

I think they chose which child went where based on Luke being male could help more with the farmwork.

I cannot believe Murph calls movies out for being boring so often but advocates for the slop that is the Last Jedi. It might not be the "worst" SW movie but it personally ruined any shot the sequels had at being a decent trilogy.

I said it on the Attack of the Clones review, but y'all need to watch Belated Media's "what if the prequels were good?" series!

Yall may be Star Wars’d out by now but I would be interested if you were able to find a copy of the Topher Grace cut how that would change some of the negatives with the prequels

We see Hayden do a good job as anakin in the Obi Wan show and Ashoka. So I don’t know if it’s just maturing into a better actor and the new director or just the new directing

I think George Lucas' world building is much better suited for video games than it is for movies/tv. That being said, I do like a lot of the Star Wars universe

Ok, and hear me out: The Sarlacc Pitt.

Murph has echoed a sentiment I've held for ages. Stop remaking good moves and start remaking movies that COULD have been good. Glad to find I'm not alone on that island as a lot of people I rant about this to just smile and nod.

The 2005 meme callout was great. One of my dogs is named for Leeroy Jenkins 😂

This star wars mixed bag has gotten me into star wars. I've watched the original trilogy and skipped the prequels cause everyone said they suck but man I love them. The camp makes me laugh hard but the world building is genuinely interesting its such a different experience and im bought in. Even watching the clone wars now

Based on what you guys said, I think you’d all LOVE the Kenobi live action series on Disney- it’s not that long (like 8 episodes), Ewan Mcgregor and Hayden Chistiansen return, and it emphasizes a lot of the good points you guys liked in Ep. 3 Definitely worth a watch

Low key it's bullshit that Bail didn't take both kids. It's not like they couldn't afford it.

It's a shame none of them have seen the clone wars animated because when it rips it RIPS. Maybe a 501st wiki wander, out one of the best arcs as a mixed bag

A couple years ago I showed my roommate the original trilogy and then the prequels and as the credit rolled on this movie she just turned to me and said "this is my favorite one" and I still think about that regularly.

I wanna see a review of the Topher Grace cut!

I’m sure someone else suggested it but you all should definitely watch Gendy Tartakovski’s clone wars! They explain grievous’ cough!

I'm glad this got Emily more into Star Wars! If y'all want better writing for the prequels, I must recommend Matt Stover's novelization for Revenge of the Sith (better dialogue!) and the Obi-Wan Kenobi miniseries (adding the emotional depth and bridging two trilogies).

LOVE the energy off the rip murph

I pulled an Emily and watched all the Star Wars movies in reverse chronological order since I never watched the Rey Trilogy. The timeframe is trippy. I thought Luke had more training, boy was I wrong. When I finally saw Anakin I was more focused on the fact he was a dad to be rather than Vader to be. Then he killed the Jedi children 😬

KOTOR and KOTOR 2 with The Sith Lords Restored mod will change your life Caldwell. Then you should run a Star Wars 5e one shot with the Trinyvale triplets!

I need them to watch Andor so bad

Highly recommend KOTOR!

Love y’all, but so wrong on so many of these plot points lmaoooo

Being a “ I hate authority” to “bowing before evil authority” person is basically just conservatism

Caldwell should listen to the darth bane audio books or read them they’re great and you get a bit more details the sith/jedi war

I could be misremembering but I think there was supposed to be another movie between clone wars and revenge that flushed Anikan and Obis relationship.

I would also loove a more thorough Anakin exploration!

As a life long Star Wars nerd, I have read nearly every novel published. Caldwell, if you need any recommendations, I'm your person. Reign of the Empire: The Mask of Fear is almost like an Andor tie-in, it's pretty good. Also, they should definitely watch the one released or leaked episode of Star Wars Detours for the absolute bottom of the barrel worst it can be

Caldwell, KOTOR is absolutely amazing. The story is great, gameplay is great.. for the time, still pretty good.

First few seasons of clone wars are definitely a slog but once they realize it's just adults watching and they go dark it's amazing, especially season 7 cause it covers order 66 from a different viewpoint. Also was suprised no brought up that Ian McDermott also plays sidious in the OG trilogy

If you legit like the world and setting, I highly recommend Genndy's Clone Wars tv show. It's like maybe 3 hours total, has some sick/slick action and fleshes out a lot of relationships from the movies. I'll also double down on KotOR. It's an unfair comparison because it's like two 20 hour rpgs, but I vastly prefer those two games to the prequels. The look at various crime syndicates, corrupt mega corporations and non force using warrior cultures is very interesting. (edited after I finished listening to the last five minutes of the podcast)

The Pit is a hospital on Tatooine built into the hollowed out body of a Sarlacc

Watch Andor. You won’t regret it.

I watched RoTS for the first time as well when it came into theaters and it was so interesting how the bones and structure of a really good movie are there but the final product is just so bad. It felt like my brain was superimposing a great movie on top of what my eyes were seeing (which was not good). It was so jarring and interesting

Rewatched last weekend in anticipation for this. This one feels the most ‘bridging novel’ of the prequels and the dark trajectory made me care less about the wooden dialogue than the others. This might be the only one that I didn’t see in the theaters when it came out.

The only feedback Lucas ever gives his actors is “faster and more intense”

The Clone Wars IS great, but it can be a slog through the first two seasons. But the nice thing about an anthology show is that you can just skip all the bad and unnecessary episodes! Look up a fast-track online, fans have made plenty

I think Caldwell would appreciate it the most, and I can't post the link here (simple enough to google) but i thibk it would be worth checking out The Blackened Mantle fan edit of revenge of the sith, where its edited to feel like a Kurosawa movie and they use the Japanese voice track with subtitles so that you get the emotional deliveries from those actors. Its a really fun watch!

“To see the cogs spinning in the mind of a filthy casual is so…” Murph please that’s your wife 😂

RIP Mace Window

I'd love to hear what Jake would think about Geore Lucas's greatest TV cameo on the 2nd season finale of The OC

It's very appropriate that Yoda and Palpatine LITERALLY dismantle the seat of democracy (and throw the seats at each other) because of their ancient grudge

How can I contact Murph directly? I have an idea I think would work

I love the slow pivot to becoming a Now You See Me podcast

DR. MEL KING MENTION ‼️

The Star Wars nerd in me is struggling listening to them be wrong but I still love them. 💕 Rogue One > Any of the sequels

I remember seeing this in the theatre and laughing hysterically with my dad when Vader screams “Noooooo!” It was a great bonding moment for us.

Why do they keep calling Grievous a robot??? He has a cough and the movie literally shows his beating heart. I get that they aren’t lore experts, but he’s CLEARLY an alien with cybernetics.

I love hearing perspectives on star wars. People have such wildly different experiences with it and y'all are no exception! This made me want to rewatch the last jedi tbh

Kotor is soooo good

I believe that in lore, Anakin and Darth vader are practically 2 entirely separate characters inhabiting the one body like a Dr jekle Mr Hyde situation, so that's maybe why Anakin gets a redemption, but even then, that feels like such a cop out

I went to the midnight release and I was so excited only to leave so supremely disappointed. Perhaps I'm too hard on this movie but it's hard to disentangle from the experience of being so young and earnestly excited only to have all my hopes for Star Wars crushed.

So the reason it's "Revenge of the Sith" is that the Sith had an empire that the Jedi destroyed, so their revenge has been going underground for a thousand years and waiting for the perfect opportunity to take revenge

Love that Murph is a TLJ enjoyer ❤️ I haven't seen the prequels since they came out and I'm so tempted to jump back in

I know this is weird but I find trimming my beard really boring so when a good mixed bag comes out I get to finally groom myself. Thank you folks

Wrath Of Khan originally being set to be called Revenge of Khan was also a instigating factor for the name change

Saw this In theaters with Dolby atmos and 4k projection and not even that can save this bloated dreck, they had to shove so much into a story that just hasn’t been told yet.

phantom menace was my favorite of the 3

So, what General Grevious's backstory is, basically think of Padmé's situation in the first movie, his planet got invaded and colonized, and the Jedi and Republic sided with the rich planet who was massacreing them, and Grevious had hated the Jedi ever since, slowly becoming more and more cyborg to be more effective fighting, and making up the name "Grevious" to hide is identity, but his initial reason to hate the Jedi was very valid

That Jedi kid that almost makes it out was one of Lucas' kids lmao, bro had his own kid getting killed 😭

I feel like I've been waiting for this my whole life....

the suprise round came true emily is wondering if murph was an actor in starwars

Watch clone wars 2005 and new one (the new one first season is rough but gets so good) If want a long series to read read Legacy of the Force. What the sequels should have been lol

the clone wars IS the place to go if yall want a truly heartwrenching version of the jedi being slaughtered by their clone troopers also murph is right and ill go further: the last jedi was the best star wars movie since the originals. come at me

Star wars would be so good if it was good 😂

Yissssss

alright, alright, my childhood star wars nerd has to make a case for the clones. for jake, storm troopers eventually phased out clones with human recruits, hence their shoddy abilities. canonically vader continued to command a legion of clones, the 501st, but clones were made to accelerate in age to be battle-ready and eventually became obsolete. i’ll supplement the um actually with an interesting detail about the empire… they are strictly anti-alien and their rule is comprised exclusively of humans, save for one grand admiral who shows a refined taste in art and battle strategy, which lends itself well to the plundering and militarism of the empire’s galactic colonization. ☝️🤓

I'm excited to see what you guys think of the newer stuff, like the Acolyte and the Mandelorian.

I've read sooooo many if the SW books. The lore from the prequels is excellent world building. The financial guild, the technology union, Darth Plagueis (who actually made Anikan)...all super soild story fodder.

I'm sorry, you become almost fully cyborg, but the part you LEAVE IN is your shitty lungs? That will never not be dumb.

His turn to evil in these stories still doesn't explain his change of personality into becoming the Vader of the original movies. And Clone Wars doesn't count in this, we're just talking movies. You know this in your heart to be true.

someone needs to introduce these guys to the topher grace prequel edit stat

I need a Trinyvale triplets Star Wars campaign

Just upgraded my tier. Super excited for my first new Mixed Bag! I freaking love these guys.

Finally!!!

Ok I’m going to listen to this and I’m very excited and also Emily can do no wrong. But I also know this will slightly hurt me psychically as a prequel kid. Ahhhh. I hate them and love them at the same time? Someone help?

I can’t believe we got part 3 so soon, what a hefty feeling

Oh no. Oh wow, I need to get high for this one.

Another nocturnal naddpole win! 2 in a row🥳🥳🥳