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June 7, 2024

Short Rest: Pathfinder Two-Shot (Part 2)

Check out NADDPOD's Patreon exclusive after show! This week, we discuss part 2 of our foray into Pathfinder 2E.

Sound Mixing and Editing by Trevor Lyon

Comments (113)

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Hipster · February 19, 2026

I NEED Murph to know that I and so many people LOVE when they all just go off on a tangent for multiple minutes! This wallet segment is going on the list of best moments of Short Rest, along with Mr. Toad’s Wild Ride and improving-football. 😂

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Renee Wild · November 10, 2025

Every time Murph says ‘this is terrible radio’ it’s actually GREAT radio

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Cler Henley · September 19, 2025

ten minutes up top screaming about wallets 😂

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Maygan · July 11, 2024

I need a picture of murph’s wallet so badly

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Tad · July 11, 2024

I’m an old man cinnamon and I think Murph just bullied me into looking for a skinny wallet

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Mothman · July 6, 2024

I'm 19 and I have no fucking idea what he means by a skinny wallet

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Esssss · July 5, 2024

#postWalletPics

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Magerdamage · June 25, 2024

Kudos to this reddit user putting me out of my misery. https://www.reddit.com/r/NotAnotherDnDPodcast/s/fa6xA6bT3Q

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Raechel Crosby · June 23, 2024

I need a photo of their wallets lined up

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Michelle Choi · June 20, 2024

as a gen z with a small wallet, i’m sure all of your big ass wallets are wonderful!!

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Alice S · June 20, 2024

I clicked on the wrong short rest comments and was like "wow, people are really ignoring the wallets". Then I clicked here and saw they very much weren't 😂

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Verdigree · June 18, 2024

Something I noticed after getting to know Pathfinder a little is that D&D's Attacks of Opportunity really incentivize all fights being to the death since the action economy stops running away from being useful

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Cianistarle · June 17, 2024

I'm Gen X so this was just way too funny.

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Pali Endi · June 16, 2024

SO what if Edgar is HellB’s actual twin that Whirlywind changed to a tree.

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Jenna H · June 15, 2024

Wallet talk had me rolling.

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Jody · June 15, 2024

Thanks Murph I just went down the rabbit hole of slim wallets and I don't even use one!!

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Christopher Martin-Givens · June 13, 2024

I need wallet pics

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Noah James Perito · June 13, 2024

Loose In A Baggy Wallet - out this summer

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Ariel Feola · June 13, 2024

The only thing i can think of when i hear Murph doing Krudbert’s voice is the shrimp from Shark Tales

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Crits · June 12, 2024

My wallet is my cellphone case. It has a little zip up pouch and a key attachment at the bottom

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Broghar The Bugbear · June 12, 2024

@yourself I'm a Key Bitch and a Thick Boi

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Grass · June 12, 2024

Idk what the average listener age is at all I’m 26?

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Parker Doole · June 12, 2024

28

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macksimumchaos · June 12, 2024

I've got a thick wallet that's made of wool and is green and pink plaid. Looking at the label now, apparently it's from Scotland

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Nicholas Ventura · June 12, 2024

Market it & start calling em Smallets

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Greg Jovi · June 11, 2024

God I'm 5 minutes in and already am on Amazon because Murph bullied me

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fig ficus · June 11, 2024

gen z here and i have a thick wallet 😭

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Jared Gabbard · June 11, 2024

I’ve been buying brothers halcyon wallets since they came out and am devastated that they closed the shop. Jake please I need another wallet as mine is wearing down!

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Rosenburrah · June 11, 2024

Caldwell throwing out a Bloodborne reference was my millennial wallet. That being said I’ve never been more seen this episode vis a vis wallets

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foster the boneless duck · June 11, 2024

whyyy wasn't murph's wallet the picture for this short rest 😭

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FregLover · June 11, 2024

This is marked as a higher tier than the $5 one on Spotify for some reason, can listen to it here and listen to other $5 tier content on Spotify but just can’t listen to this one on Spotify

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Grizzmammoth49 · June 11, 2024

Can you guys do a one-shot called “Cartoons Go to Hell” ?🤣

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Monk3yTouch3r · June 11, 2024

I'd like to see Caldwell run monster of the week with characters from "Cartoon Hell"

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Soup Sandwich · June 10, 2024

I'm having the opposite wallet problem where I am gen z and am like wow I would love to be able to carry around more stuff than just the two cards that can fit in my phone case

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Jeffrey Steck, Lord of the Fjord · June 10, 2024

Just realized, thorn for me that Em didn’t get a chance to walk through Cinnamon’s spells!

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Lemon Moon · June 10, 2024

They did that in the first short rest

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Robert · June 10, 2024

I am loving Pathfinder sooo much. Kind wish they would drop the main campaign and just start a new one on PF now :)

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Doublelink · June 10, 2024

The guy from FF6 Emily was thinking of is Strago and his adopted granddaughter Relm.

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Pip · June 10, 2024

‘I definitely was a key bitch when I was younger’ SPOKE to me!

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Aimee Champagne · June 9, 2024

Sorry Murph but I'm 20 and my wallet is HUGE. I even keep a check book in there, despite using it maybe 2 times a year at most. Got the habit from my dad and haven't been able to kick it. Many people my age have complimented me on my wallet. However, I do have a little phone wallet for my student ID and debit card too.

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Bobby Moynihan · June 9, 2024

This is the only DND show you can listen to where the first ten mins of the talkback episode includes almost no discussion of the episode, but instead features a one-man crusade over the thickness of wallets, and it is exactly why I pay to listen. In fact, I would pay more.

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Peydon Bush · June 9, 2024

Loved the wallet riffing lol

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Natural Dragon · June 9, 2024

I’ve learned so much about Murph this year. He is rocking the Gen z slim wallet, he forbids bucket hats in his household and he fully supports honoring the cock. I think 2024 is the year of Murph. I look forward to more secrets of the Murph man Side note you guys should start a wallet review podcast. I would sub.

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FregLover · June 13, 2024

You can always listen to Jake and Micah’s (his brother) the GOAT show, I believe there is an episode on wallets

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Matthew Cagle · June 9, 2024

Team bonding fighting a fountain made me think about the opening of F.R.I.E.N.D.S completely differently.

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Olivia and Jarod have two lvls of exhaustion · June 9, 2024

I actually hated how my husband's wallet looked so bulky; so I bought him a slim wallet from Ridge that has Hawaiian aesthetic

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Tuesday Hernandez · June 9, 2024

I learned from my 16-year-old step-daughter that the kids are also making fun of our ankle socks.

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Ebony-Rose Ellis · June 9, 2024

Who is even using a wallet these days 🥲 the real way is to carry all of my cards in different pockets, constantly losing the on rotation. I have approximately £1.82 in hard change at the bottom of one back but I don't know which. I do have one card on my phone, but it is not my preferred card to use at the moment... But my other debit card is a gamble on if I've actually brought it out or not. I don't remember what my wallet looks like or where it is. The last time I saw it, it was full of used bus tickets, a few unused stickers and more dollars than my actual currency. I'm born in the second half of 1996 so I think this contributes to my choices

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Proopypants · June 9, 2024

There's a character in the D&D module Wild Beyond the Witchlight called Jiingle Jangle who is *the* key bitch. My goblin PC tried to get her number but rolled a nat 1... Jingle Jangle my beloved.... 😢😢😢

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Pali Endi · June 9, 2024

Shoutout to all the key bitches! Please accept this book recc in tribute: The Starless Sea by Erin Morgenstern

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Professor Pratt · June 9, 2024

i think Sarunrae was the god Pike Trikefoot was a cleric for in the game that eventually became Critical Role campaign 1. They were playing Pathfinder before 5e when they started streaming.

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Owen Smith · June 11, 2024

Correct! She's spelled Sarenrae : https://2e.aonprd.com/Deities.aspx?ID=16

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Declane Gilhooley · June 8, 2024

It's cool knowing that there's another system out there that uses like Nat twenties or critical successes on like saves so you don't do take damage. I have been using that not knowing that another system uses it in my current campaigns on a Nat 20 on a saving throw you take no damage. The way I see it is it's critical success. You did an amazing job dodging the damage or getting the f*** out of there. What have you to be rewarded that. It actually doesn't happen as often as one would think? Sure. I've had a couple of people throw in Nat 20 on a saving throw for like a dragon's breath. But I still end up hitting half the party which in my eyes is good

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Kally Thompson · June 8, 2024

@emilyaxford you like keys? You should watch the show Locke and key! All keys ARE magical. Hope you see this

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dummythixon · June 11, 2024

I wish I could vote this more!!

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Professor Pratt · June 8, 2024

road mage for the win!

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mandy · June 8, 2024

As a Gen z with a flat ass wallet the only reason I have one is so that it fits into my fanny pack when I go to concerts since you can either only bring tiny bags or bigger clear ones

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Matty H · June 8, 2024

I would buy a NADDPOD Ridge Wallet

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Thermovore · June 8, 2024

Used to work in a zoo nutrition department— polar bears’ favorite treats are spicy chile kibble!

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Adam Kepper · June 8, 2024

She's a 10 but she has an unhealthy collection of keys.

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Justin Cockrell · June 8, 2024

The one time Murph does use social media and he turns into a wallet wench…

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DumbLittleChair · June 8, 2024

One note about hero points for any future games is that the book recommends that everyone has 1 point at the start of each session. That being said, saving them for the end fight was a good idea! This two-shot was awesome and I'm looking forward to seeing yall revisit pathfinder!!!

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schnoodle · June 8, 2024

The system really encourages just handing them out like candy. One for everyone at the start of session, and the rules recommend at least one per hour to someone.

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Spencer Bloom · June 8, 2024

A core memory was unlocked when y’all were discussing the legal limits of road mage. When I was like 13 I was hanging out in the parking lot of a KFC across the street from the skate park (as you do), and 2 older teenagers in an old ass pontiac pull up and roll down their window and yell “HEX ON YOU” before peeling away. 100% rattled me more than any insult would have.

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SweetBabyJ · June 8, 2024

So glad yall seemed to enjoy yourselves with the new system and I’m definitely hoping for more pathfinder content in the future:)

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Jeffrey Steck, Lord of the Fjord · June 8, 2024

Used to be a tri guy but now have a slim Ekster bi fold and an Ekster cardholder with the back plate for cash or more cards.

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Phillip Traylor · June 8, 2024

I have had a brand name here "small" wallet for like 6 years. They are great if you only carry something like four cards. They suck for any amount of cash and forget about coins. I have to use the money clip for most business cards as they are larger than your standard issue id for whatever reason. It has held up though aside from needing some replacement plate face screws as the og ones became loose.

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Verdigree · June 8, 2024

I think the 2-Action melee heal is the strongest, but the trade off is it's just one person, like video game healing, the AOE one is slightly weaker but applies to everyone you want at a range

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Peter J. Kremer · June 8, 2024

Two action Heal is 30ft., not melee.

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Tori Wilcox · June 8, 2024

loved this two shot!! so fun

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Brandon Stacks · June 8, 2024

Cinna-mini-mon

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JackJack · June 8, 2024

I’m assuming the purple dreaming one is based on Desna but idk we’ll see

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Zander Wiesehuegel · June 8, 2024

I almost feel Murph was unaware how serious Jake is about wallets to the point where he and his brother made a wallet to be the perfect size. This was the one thing Murph could say to actually get under Jakes skin.

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Kai · June 7, 2024

Millennial here, rocking my Brothers Halcyon wallet for the last few years, small, sleek and sturdy

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Xanian Jamfalcon · June 7, 2024

I bought one of those tiny wallets once but I was scared my shitnwould fall out so I went back to the chunky wolf wallet i bought at Vancouver aquarium like 8 years ago.

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aiyana graham art · June 7, 2024

I am a gen Z individual with a fat ass wallet. its like 8 inches with a utility knife, glasses cleaner, and every card I could ever need. i find it fascinating that murph has decided the kids are right on this one though. personally im following my butch lesbian heritage by never leaving anything at home

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Will Putman · June 8, 2024

Im also a genZ with rocking a big wallet lmao change pocket and everything

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Liu · June 7, 2024

Speaking as a 21 year old chunky wallets are very chic. I personally have a fabric fish coin purse that holds my twenty cards 👍🏻

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Dan Gordon · June 7, 2024

Originally i didn’t realize that this was the short rest and not the episode itself and I couldn’t help but think “wow going in on the wallet thing in the main feed is bold”

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Jason Clark · June 7, 2024

Specifically because of Emily's talking about familiars - there's some cool interactions that can be done with them in Pathfinder. #1 The Witch class is built around being a touch like 5e's Warlock but with familiars on steroids. #2 since you can command a familiar with on action and it gets two actions, I've seen interesting builds with Alchemists that have a familiar having the familiar get things out of their backpack and hand them over. Like, Alchemist lobs a bomb, Familiar pulls out a special item from the Alchemist's backpack and hands it to the Alchemist and the Alchemist chucks another one.

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Jake de Medeiros · June 7, 2024

If Jake can fit a legit KEY in his wallet it’s 200% too thick buddy, nothing minimalist about a wallet key. Get with the times!!!!

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Danny Wittig · June 7, 2024

Emily, there’s a show called Locke & Key that’s entirely about magical keys. A little corny, but sounds up your alley as a key bitch

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Valkyrie · June 7, 2024

The source comic is sooooo good

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Mads Ammitzbøll · June 7, 2024

For Guncle Caldwell, regarding the struggle balancing using a scenario made for 4 players, with a smaller party. Pathfinder has excellent rules for adjusting encounters in the CRB pg.489 or the GMcore pg.75 table 10-1

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Ellen · June 7, 2024

For anyone looking to experience the wonders of the 90's songs referenced in the 2-shot (along with a few vibe-appropriate additions from an actual 40-year-old with the giant wallet to prove it), search for "Cinnamon's Musical Accompaniment (Full Version)" on Spotify. [Just a silly thing I made as I was listening along.]

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Sharktopus Reckoning · June 7, 2024

Genius lol

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Mads Ammitzbøll · June 7, 2024

Emily, Ezren is a character puplished in COMMERCIAL BOOKS/COMICS your portrayal of him was one for the ages

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Mads Ammitzbøll · June 7, 2024

Man i wish they'd just run the beginnerbox, i understand time investment/constraints, but man i would've loved to aee the gang just explore the adventure and the world of golarion. The interplay between the different gods and their believers is so interesting. Pathfinder is a system that works so incredibly well when you take your time with it instead of rushing through it. Also i highly encourage anyone to look into the conditions, when it clicks its transforms into such an effortless framework, its awesome.

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Chase · June 7, 2024

I think the changes Caldwell made were perfect for running an abridged version - my only thorn is that the fight against undead in the crypt is a perfect moment to showcase the 3-action heal from the Cleric, it feels so badass to unleash divine energy in a burst that heals your allies and harms undead. I agree about conditions though. It feels like a lot in the beginning but after a few sessions it's so much simpler than all of the extremely complicated "conditions" in 5e like Slow or Haste. Slow in 5e is like, your AC is lower, you can only take an action and a bonus action, not both, your speed is reduced, if you cast a spell it might take an extra round to work (or something like that). Slow in pf2e: you have 1 less action

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Hannah Harris · June 7, 2024

it's so funny how everytime Murph says this is terrible radio it's amazing radio.

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Sharktopus Reckoning · June 7, 2024

LOL I never thought of it that way but you’re completely right.

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Ian Capper · June 7, 2024

Cinnamon is the Lisan Al Gaib

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Proopypants · June 9, 2024

Muad Ginger (doesn't roll off the tongue quite as well...)

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Brandon R · June 7, 2024

Caldwell you sweet summer child, those giant yard skeletons are year round decorations, not just Halloween.

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Kal and her cats Portland, Star, and Berlin · June 7, 2024

I literally stole my dad’s trifold black pleather wallet that is almost falling apart. AND I keep my eldermorne death save coin in it 💁🏻 And I do have a cool car key bc my ‘96 Camry wagon is a key entry only

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Kal and her cats Portland, Star, and Berlin · June 7, 2024

Here’s the problem with commenting while listening to the episode is that I have more comments as the episode goes on and I can’t just live tweet my thoughts in the comment section 🤣

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Xacris · June 7, 2024

It would be so cool if Hellbiscuit's tree eventually becomes magical, there's a spell called Protector Tree that will make a tree that will take hits for adjacent allies that could be fun. Fuck that tree up more and more lol

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Sam Francis · June 7, 2024

Caldwell! For other sourcebooks I highly recommend Pathfinders Dark Archive It's essentially a series of 1-3 shots themed around the occult and cryptids

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Rebecca N · June 7, 2024

You know, my wallet was starting to fall apart anyway. Maybe this is the push I needed to get a new wallet...

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Shel B Kennas fav SG wishing you a happy Bog-oween · June 7, 2024

road mage is suchhhhh a good subclass. proficient in vehicles and intimidation

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Pedro De Oliveira · June 7, 2024

We need wallet pics. As a 23 year old, the tinier the wallet, the bigger is the respect i have. We all carry man purses now

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Nobi Wolff · June 7, 2024

Strago. And the little girl is Relm. Lol

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Dorian Doran · June 7, 2024

where’s the pic of murph’s new thin wallet compared to his thick ass OG

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Sharktopus Reckoning · June 7, 2024

As a 20 year old, I never related to or even LIKED Murph until I learned about his tiny wallet.

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mandy · June 8, 2024

😭😭

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Kodiak Wolf · June 7, 2024

I love my tiny gen z wallet. I had a giant wallet for a long time but found I can still keep all my cards, emergency cash, and a full 8.5x11" copy of my CDL medical in the tiny wallet so there's no need for a giant wallet anymore!

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Travis Dreelin · June 7, 2024

I bet Murph actually has a chain wallet and a foot-long lanyard on his keys like the millennial that he truly is

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Sawyer Bernard · June 7, 2024

“ don’t take my advice, except if it has to do with wallets”

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Evan Cordero · June 7, 2024

Brian Murphy. The man of tiny L's and even tinier wallets

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Coelacanth · June 7, 2024

Release the wallet pics.

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Spencer Murphy · June 7, 2024

Hmmm. Excellent radio this episode.

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GintokiShids · June 7, 2024

Most gen z have their cards in their phone cases so Murph is just a poser

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Sam Francis · June 7, 2024

Love to see Pathfinder explored with the one-ish shots