No Lunch Break Page 97 opinions
After the shitstorm that was page 96 I was pretty surprised at people's reactions. I mean I never expected this to be something that everyone likes but the hostility and what feels like overreacting has kind of gotten to me.
I want to ask what you guys think because I don't intend to step on any toes on purpose. The results may or may not affect the outcome but I just want to know.
And just answer honestly how you feel. This isn't about me sacrificing my artistic vision or anything, since it's just a little extra thing. But if said extra things brings a lot of shit with it it's not worth it.
Comments (88)
I'm just wondering if dormice are actually edible.
I'm not really into eating dead things, but I'm not offended at all, and I don't think you should change the direction of the story.
I'm certainly not offended. Not my cup of tea, but then I'm not the one writing the story. I'm not going anywhere and anyone who would over something as minor as this isn't a true fan!
eating a dead mouse? caught me by surprise . seems unusual. but i am not offended.
Since there was no option like this, I'll just say it here: personally, I don't really like it; I'd love to see a different page, but if you don't want to, obviously you don't have to and I'd be fine. But I think what would be a good compromise between the people who like it and don't would be to have "alternate eating scenes" like in one she eats the mice for the people who like it, in another she just eats a bunch more food. Just my opinion. Not trying to start a shitstorm or anything by saying this, it's just a suggestion.
It's okay once, and you can finish it off. If I have an opinion on anything it's that you spent so much time making everyone else a believable character that Sandy and this scene just feel tonally a little off, and I think that's part of the reaction -- everything else has been so (within the realm of fantasy) believable. The jump from "weird coworker" to "brings dead mice to dinner" was a big one, and now we're eating them -- there wasn't anything in Sydney's character to make me believe Sydney would do that.
Keep up the good work because it adds character to the storyline
Hey, if it's alive it can be dead and made into food. Especially if it's in "cartoon" form where you don't have to worry about preparation. I couldn't watch a real person eat a real mouse, but in this style I'm 100% behind it.
Hey its your comic, kip. Do as you please. I'm just not going to subject myself to watching Sydney eat dead vermin. Nothing personal.
I personally think this is gross, but that's exactly what I wanted in. So many authors and artists are so scared to put in things that are gross or make people uncomfortable, but you have to realize that builds character and makes for interesting situations that you just can't get from playing things safe. Inducing emotions from your viewers and readers is a very powerful tool that isn't used often enough!
for me, i was taught from my childhood that mice were dangerous, dirty, that you should not touch them or you will die; something more or less like cockroaches; so one develops a natural fear or revulsion;; eating mice for me feels like drinking sewage or eating garbage ,,though, it would be somehow acceptable if they were well cooked and disinfected
We need a fifth option for being neutral
I don't mind the vore thing as long as it still lead's the big fat girls being sexy and that you still enjoy making the comic.
Wat is goin on hur.
I celebrate whimsy and silliness; devouring friendly prepared mice lends the story character in the overall. One more mouse, two more mice...could Sydney acquire their flavor and sensations after consuming just one? To say one could peer through the artist's brilliance and judge him on a single frame, I will not. All's said! Have your way with things, embrace your taste for love! There is no need to swallow others' fear.
Thanks, I wish I could just ignore the peer pressure but I'm a bit afraid of losing too many pledgers.
I adored it, and it's your story- even if I didn't one page I don't like doesn't somehow neuter the entire story.
Thats what I thought, but now a crowd of people is telling me they will stop reading if I don't change the next page.
I liked the lobster better because it was bigger and she eats it whole, the whole mice thing isn't as good to me only because it's the size of normal food. But keep doing you:)
Thankthank I'll try
>I don't [particularly] like [or dislike] this
Personally I think that it's giving this all a bit of quirkiness and character, differentiating it from just your standard doujin, so in that respect I do kind of like it. Tho, I havent even seen where this is going so yeah.
Not my thing, but the response you got has been horrible. I remember finding the incest in the original series offputting at first but I got over it.
Like did a lot of people. I am surprised that this happens every time. Thanks for being mature about it tho.
I'd be okay if it wasn't mice. The change to "vore" is just fine with me, but eating rodents kinda freaks me out. Personally that's the issue I had for it. If you could explain away the "mice" as bad cookies or something, I'd be more than okay. If you changed what she was eating to something that wasn't so synonymous with "dirty" or "unclean" that would be fine too. (Gerbils, Guinea Pigs, rabbits, etc.)
Honestly I don't see why it would make much of a difference, I feel like most people find the general concept of vore disturbing. But I appreciate that you didn't flip even if you found it repulsive.
I'm gonna echo what a few people said about being indifferent to the subject, I don't mind it at all and I'll enjoy the continuation of it with or without the subject at hand. I seldom venture unto the land of dA, that cesspool, but as much as they want to gripe and moan about it, in the end it's 'your' comic, not theirs. You said you didn't like the way DWS was going, because it was being catered to the fans, I don't want this one doing the same and ruining it for 'you'. I thoroughly enjoy the concept of every page and the evolution of the characters. People need to realize that anything goes, and if it's taboo, so be it. They can get over it and not be so self-entitled, heaven forbid things might get a little weird, news flash, we're all a little fucking weird, so the pot can stop calling the kettle black. I digress, you can't please everyone, you never can nor ever will, unfortunately. In the end just make sure to do what makes you happy, and keep up the amazing work Kip.♥
Thanks, I know not everyone likes the same things but I just wish people could ignore the parts they don't like instead of throwing hissyfits.
I honestly thought it was funny, maybe not necessary sensible, but I laughed. I feel like it doesn't need to be taken seriously
That's what I thought!
Really not a fan of vore of any kind, but it's your story, and I don't want you to change anything. Besides if it really becomes too unappealing, I'm pretty sure I just have to skip a couple page before everything go back to "normal" ;)
(And I'm more concerned about Sandy than Sydney right know, I mean what was that sudden change of personality?! Not in a bad way, I really want to know!)
Since I'm getting dm's about my comment... I don't mind vore at all, that's not my issue. I've followed kip for a long time and vore is not new territory. "3 o clock it's good feeding time" and "eat your veggies or else" are fantastic works to me. My issue is it's rats. I just personally find that aspect of it gross. If Sydney has a dream where she becomes Godzilla eating all the people, I'm in. This is just a personal turn off as rats to me, like many people who commented on the other sites, are not normally considered food but considered pests. It's like eating cockroaches. Just totally not my thing at all. If you're super into that, then speak up. Kip can draw what Kip wants, I can dislike and ignore what I want, but if Kip wants an opinion and I give it, don't tell me to 'kys'. I just prefer my people with soft tummies get there via cake etc. :P
You definitely don't have to like. All I hope is that people like you who don't like could just ignore that part and move on.
I'll be honest, I'm not going to pick an option. I'm pretty open-minded when it comes to stories, comics, content and fetishes. There really isn't much that can turn me away as long as the subject matter is either interesting, funny and/or reasonably deep. Art is not often a factor, there have been comics I've read that aren't super detailed but I like the style of comedy or storytelling that makes it easy to look past. The same can be said for fetish comics, it doesn't really matter what the theme is as long as the context supports it well (least for me). The only things that dissuade me from comics is when it's clearly rushed or is meaningless. Not saying that there can't be comics just for fap material just that there are some that just don't feel like the characters would actually perform the actions they take at the drop of a hat. An example would be if a shy character just suddenly lets a guy she just met have sex without any build up and then proceeds with dialog that no one would actually say in their position. As for your recent comic pages. Keep doing what you're doing, though I like a multitude of fetish stuff, I mainly stick around for the story and character developments. If I had any actual complaints it'd be about Sandy but that's a different subject. If there is something you want to tell with your art and storytelling then I say just do it, yes people will praise you, people will insult you, you cannot and will not please everyone. The people that are interested in what you are showing will stay until the end if possible. Not all stories are for everyone but if they can get past their own issues with different subjects/fetishes then they may enjoy themselves. Anyway, keep up with the good work and I look forward to seeing more from you. Hope you had a good Valentine's Day~
The problem is that a lot of people don't seem to be able to get past something they don't like, even if its just for one page. And I'm not sure I want to deal with that.
I won't say I liked what happened in the last page, but it IS your decision where it goes. I'll definitely stick around one way or another. Quite frankly, if there's something I don't like, I just get the Hell over it. No big deal. I do not honestly care.
Thank you I appreciate that.
Just keep her eating
Hahah I like how you think
Also it's a tinge ironic that a lot of you are drawing lines in the sand here like it's common sense when a lot of people would have drawn the line at the premise ofwhat Kip creates. Some people wanna see fat bitches eat some rats don't kink shame on a kink patreon you dorks.
I agree its stupid, but a lot of people seem really really sensitive to this thing. I will never understand.
The way I see it your the artist and this is your story and your art. It's entirely up to you how things go fans should respect that and let you be you. I feel being a fan about something is about being taken on a journey not being a back seat driver.
I agree, but I don't want to lose people for the sake of one page.
Personally, for me, it is your comic. If you appeal too much to the fans, it will end up like trash. Feedback from fans is okay, but don't let it dominate your story.
Oh, and yes, rats are animals so rats ARE food. Dogs can be food too. However, in the Western culture, tgese are not appealing.
Always the Fuckin butthurt minority that's gotta fuck things up right? It's you're comic kip. Do what YOU want. You hardly ever put core in your comics and the one time you do it people loses their shit. Well can Fuck off. It may only be 19% but I voted that i like it and you should keep it as is.
On top of that this is a Fucking FETISH COMIC PEOPLE. There is nothing "normal" about watching a girl stuff herself silly. Anymore so then watching a girl swallow something whole. Kip is the creator of this comic and this person wouldnt have put this in if itss omething they arent in too. Please Kip do what you
I'd just be careful with avoiding conflict here since it would be a shame if you changed according to a bunch of entitled people worried a great fetish comic is going in a direction they don't like and then you got disinterested in your work (like DWS). This is an unusual fetish so there is no "norm" here to jump off the rails from. I think it's likely just shock from people with ironclad rules for their turn ons. I think you have a good thing here, and unless you're doing this for just us and not us and you you should just trust that the quality of your art and characters is enough to keep people around.
It's kind of a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. Going with what I intended would make a lot of people angry it seems, and I'm not sure if it's worth my original idea.
My problem with this page is that it neither is appealing to the viewers eyes nor is it important for the plot. Eating rats is fanservice without any service for the fans. It's just gross. At the end it's your decision how you write the story, but I would be grateful if you would stop Sydney from devouring the rats.
But like 30% of the comic is fanservice! This page is no different, just that the subject matter differs.
My honest opinion is that it's such a large change and in a very different, and in my opinion disgusting, way. I was completely turned off by it and don't know if I can continue to support it if it had this content in it. Dead rats are not food. This would have made a funny spin off or short comic, but to continue it like she's into eating them... The next page would be way too gross to imagine for me.
But it's just one page, why does that ruin hundreds of pages of comic for you?
Personally speaking, I'd have voted for an "I don't care either way" option - I'm probably more a fan of it than others, but I'm not blind to the fact that vore in general (aka, the consumption of a living creature) is gross on premise overall for most. But that being said, this is also why I personally don't why anyone would get this worked up over what it is being eaten - vore is vore; it's no more or less gross just because what kind of creature it is changes. Especially since you put up a disclaimer warning people beforehand - anyone who disregards it and reads anyway is kinda complaining about thorns they themselves wrapped their fingers around, in my opinion.
I don't understand it either, but I have to be super careful to not offend everyone here.
bitches gonna complain all the time, tell 'em to suck it up and keep telling your story
Normally I would but I don't want to piss off people who have been nice to me
no issue with me here. a case of whiney manchilds having a #notmykiptei moment. imo
Too many of them sadly
It doesn't appeal to me, but I figure I can skip it and come back once it's over. I enjoy your art, and I'm curious to see where the series goes
That's okay, I hope more people thought like that.
Cant cater to everyone, i think you should just make the comic how you want it, (im mostly here to see what happens to Tina)
Yeah I know, I just wish people were more open minded. Thanks
I think it's fine Kip! I know that this comic is about more than just the beautiful bellies! A little variety is what keeps it interesting. I love your stuff so I'm staying for it all. So, in short - Follow your heart Kip and make what you want to see! Eat the mice! Or not.... Poor mice...
I'd like to but this might make a lot of people angry and it's debatable whether that's worth it.
A shitstorm indeed. I read through the previous comments and looked at the poll vote and i gotta say, i don't see what the big deal is. I understand how some people might find this a tad weird or disturbing, but i don't see what the commotion is all about, nevertheless you have a disclaimer, but screw that apparently. Anywho, i awoke to seeing all this, all i wanna say is, I Enjoy your art and what you do greatly. Me personally i would be very interested and curious to see where this route goes, maybe her belly bloating large from it or something. Don't let it get to you. have a wonderful day Kip.
Thank you, I'll try not to.
Maybe I'm just a little out of the fetish loop but I don't really /get/ what this is leading to. All I know is that drain mice are gross and I don't want her to throw up and lose that belly. 😶 So I'm not into it but I'm not against you doing what you want to? I feel like I get what I want out of 90% of your series so if someone else can get something out of it even if I don't quite get it, that's ok.
Update, Google has informed me about what this is and I apologize for being a little green to the fandom. It isn't something that gets me, but it isn't something that gets to me. So whatever still works for me. You do you Kip, I love your art.
I’d go with the plan you originally had. It would be a shame to change your plan for the story in my opinion, but in the end it should be your decision.
Story will remain unchanged, it's just this one eating moment thats affected.
Eat a lobster whole and people see it as hot and gluttonous, they love it. Eat a rat and it's suddenly gross. I don't get people. At least you didn't make her eat literal garbage I mean that's a legitimate fetish to some.
Dead drain rats feels like garbage to me...
Ily no matter what and your artistic vision is that of your own. Never give up
Thanksthanks
Sorry but dead rats are extremely gross to me, and eating them is even weirder. I like stuffing with delicious things. I thought it was like a joke, but it seems like it's an actual fetish note for you and I find that personally really unpleasant. Totally your comic and your prerogative, but not for me.
That's okay, like I said everyone doesn't have to like it.
The scene just kinda just ruins what I like about the comic and made it hard to enjoy. I really look forward to you posting new pages but the whole scene and concept l kills it for me. I’m mainly sticking around because of how good the comic has been up to this point. I hate to complain about your art and your creative decisions but I just don’t like this stuff.
You don't have to like it but why does this one page instance ruin the whole comic for you? I don't understand.
This Shelby person knows what they're talking about...
which means?
you do you, buddy.
At the moment me doing me seems to amount to me losing 6% of my subscribers, but we'll see.
Kip has done vore before, the whole lobster in dinner with sister was similar. Im totally ok with it, it's not my cup of tea but it's part of Kip's long time identity. I was just hoping she didn't puke cuz that's gross (IMO) but it doesn't bother me too much.
I wish more people looked at it like you do.
Meh, theres a lot of people who dislike the vore fetish in general regardless of content. I say dont worry about it that much and just brush it off. If you want to continue going this route its completely up to you but like you said you were trying to keep it out of their faces. I for one would love to see you go down a vorish route as we havent seen that kind of thing from you in quite some time! But the decision is completely up.to you of course.
It was not gonna become a "route", it was just a small little extra thing, I had no idea it would trigger people so much.
