Modsby's INSTANT Pie-Menu for SIM 4 v.1.0.2 (ALPHA-release) [Closed]
[Modsby] Instant Pie Menu 1.0.2 (ALPHA)
Hey guys thanks for testing
You should go here for beta testing v1.2.+ https://www.patreon.com/Modsby/posts/instant-pie-menu-172545716
About :
Instant Pie Menu helps previously opened interaction menus appear quickly while checking selected interactions against the currently active sims! In other words it optimistically preloads what you've already seen and then loads in stuff behind the scenes.
From v.1.0.1.16:
USING THE MOD AND UNDERSTANDING THE LIMITATIONS:
Allow about 30 seconds after the first household finishes loading for IPM to start. This happens once per game launch. The usual menu remains available during startup, and a notification appears when IPM is ready.
Menus are cached / learned as you open them. Learned menus remain available throughout the loaded world. Travelling, reloading the world will kill the cache. I think it should, in a good way - please let me know if not.
Reopening a cached menu also prepares updated choices for its next opening in the background.
Selected interactions are checked with EA before they run, if EA hasn't even prepared loading the original menu in the background - you may be stuck (sometimes) because EA traffic controller 's jaw drops when you give him the interaction ID before he even knew it. To EA you are magician and that scares it. He wants to run away from you but then he checks the ID and lets the interaction through. Therefor a delay is possible if your normal loadtime is 20 seconds for the menu and you decide to click on that one interaction in the 1st second of loading that isnt ready, you'll have to wait the full 20 seconds for the EA traffic controller to remove restrictions from starting the automation. and EA's own queue and interaction restrictions also still apply.
First-time menus, complex mod interactions and selector popups can still take time. However i fixed the annoying Selector Popup 10 second bug.
Remember this IPM does not preload every interaction or remove the game's loading work in the background nor does it replace it. One day it will, we are still in Alpha and i'm just a dreamer. I'm looking for really good feedback, its critical that you let me know of your experience and nitpicks as we are trying to make it ---purrfect before it is merged with the Dropdown Menu to make it a real game changer.
OLD MENU HOTKEY:
Hold ALT while clicking a Sim to open old vanilla menu, you can check out loding times like that.
Does not support SHIFT click yet, because i personally dont support cheating. But i'll add it soon anyway :) Lets make 1 menu work first ad least
HIII! Thank you so much for helping me test!
Basically i listened to all the feedback and luckily i found the regression that basically fixed most of them as they were recurring bugs before. This looks good to me? I'm not sure, i dont have enough mods.
I'm gonna be honest with you, with my limited amount of testing i've made i need help more then ever, this should have been named 1.0.1.99 or something because 1.0.2 is too trigger happy, i have no idea if this is stable enough to give it such a pretty round number. Anyway, If you are reporting a bug, please include your MOD folder size, and a list of all mods that have the "Pie-Menu" in its name and worked with this menu. if your game is latest version dont need to include it. Any details that can help me triangulate what the bug is or where it comes from is a blessing.
I hope you enjoy it and find me many many bugs to squish
SQUISHLOG:
- Exterminated a bug that caused the menu to rebuild because of your constant sim's mood-swings.
- Identified and destroyed a hive nest of bugs by their queen's name "massive regression" while integrating with other mods in the last update, leading to version 1.0.1.9 being superior in some ways.
- Forced all learned interactions for sims to persist until you reload the world
- Removed the cache expiry due to cache innactivity.
- Removed all cache limits because we dont care for space at all
- Flicker stability stabilized
- Avoided duplicate preporations
- Still Monkey-bash proof
- Learned menus survive sim switching without casualties
Tldr; By downloading you understand the mod comes 'as-is' and is still in active development.
(If you are the first to comment, please let me know it worked so i can go to sleep)
<3
Dev-logs updates:
29/09/2026:
I have discovered something! TwistedMexi's Smarter pie menu and Auto-pause are not compatible by themselves, that means the only way for me to have search and pause is either to absorb them (which i wont do) or to make IPM the adaptor. to make both work together with it Which i'm working on right now, so expect an update this week !
28/09/2026:
I have addressed most feedback in the comments and am looking into some more edgier cases.
Comments (71)
I did its awesome! Thanks!
I use TMex smarter pie menus for the search function am I understanding that this isnt compatible? I need that search feature I love it but this sounds awesome pie menu lag is a terrible thing
Use beta version it's compatible
okay so it doesn't do it every time for me i have to wait foe it to load and then it does it the second time and after a while i have to wait again, why does it do this if its supposed to be automatic each time for the pie menu
Please use the latest version: https://www.patreon.com/posts/173228957?utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=alpha_redirect
I just remembered that I also switched out Wicked Whims for Wonderful Whims if that makes a difference. Game is working well right now.
My goal was to remove mods that add choices in the pie menu and so I removed the following mods by Adeepindigo - Divergent Sims, Golden Years, Delinquent Teens, Dynamic Teens, Pre-Teens since I'm not currently using them. I definitely will want to use Golden Years at some point in the future. I might reinstall the teen mods once my family has a teen. I also removed LBGTQIA by Lumpinou because I don't understand what all the different terms mean and I'm not really using it. I just now downloaded your latest version (1.2.102) and I'll let you know if it continues to work well.
I came back to the comments earlier to delete my original post because the game seems to have straightened itself out after I deleted a few mods. Anyway I'm currently using the mod and I'm loving it. I downloaded a new version when I reinstalled it and maybe you had already posted a new version unbeknownst to me since I just now saw and read your response. Thank you!
Oh can you let me know which mods were causing the problem if you remember, especially if they are popular
When will this work with your dropdown menu mod?
you have no idea how grateful i am for you and this absolutely incredible mod 😭 YOU SAVED MY GAMEPLAY!! i play heavily modded, and lot 51 was messing up my game so bad with the pie menu but i really wanted those mods. this literally fixed everything. i owe you my first born child 🧎🏽♀️
Hi!, i want to know if it's possible to know or have a sneak peek about the next update of this mod (amazing mod btw). I've been having a lot of issues, but there's one specifically that I hate: it's when you have to wait for a task to finish, and the task still shows as available even though my Sim already finished it. I can see that this is a common issue, but I hope you can update the mod soon! 🙏
Hi!! Thanks for testing. Im sorry you still haven't received an update yet, The next version is 1.2.20+ that's two major versions ahead of this one. And still not fully finished yet, it's almost there but there are new bugs that need to be addressed first. I'm happy to say that the annoying bugs have been fixed. All bugs reported. There has been a full architecture rewrite, removed the package and left only the script to remove conflicts, made it pure optimization, made it use an sql database to store the cache, the caching is too broad on that version (I'm trying to make it not require two clicks and not require constant reaching as it forgets stuff right now, fixed the 30 second delay at start and takes about 3 minutes to cache all interactions, which isn't ideal. I don't want to promise too much as I notice whenever I do it breaks and I'm delayed again. There is a quip I posted last week with a sneak peek and there's active development on it right now. I'm hoping to share something this week, again, appologies for the delays - it's becoming a bit complicated and somewhat rocket sciency but we will get there
IPM prevents the tool mod from working in live mode. After removing it, I could move objects in live mode, but when I reinstalled IPM, it stopped working again. I don't know if this was reported, but I thought I'd mention it so it can be fixed with the new update. Great mod, by the way, and I appreciate you creating it and sharing it with us.
Thank you for reporting this, it was not reported before, I think. I'll look into this
I'm having an issue where when I click on an item say a toilet that was repaired my sims can't use it because the menu still thinks it's broken. Also spent 10-15 min trying to get the computer to update so my sim could edit a term paper. My sim would sit down and immediately get back up because I'm assuming the path was no longer valid. I couldn't get my sim to actually complete the paper until I had her cook a meal and then return to the computer. ITs been very frustrating trying to get through university I had to remove the mod until graduation.
Thank you for reporting this! I'm not convinced the term paper issue is related to IPM, as it sounds more like a native pathfinding problem. The dead menu options you mentioned are a known bug, already addressed in the upcoming update (just a few days away). For now, refreshing the menu should help. If the issue happens again, please try ALT+click to open EA's native menu and check whether it still occurs. Could you confirm whether your Sims graduated normally after removing IPM? Also, are you using any other mods? This would really help me narrow down the cause and get the next beta released without further delays. Thanks for helping test it!
Love this mod and the work you do for the community. Can't wait to see what else you make!
I got a better exceptions - its saying it could be 30% chance its modsby_instant_pie_menu/native_adapter.py. Reason [jdimailig] Error invoking TunableFocusElementWrapper.factory (AttributeError: type object 'ComponentContainer' has no attribute 'get_focus_bone')
Hi! Thanks you for reporting! Actually important to highlight from the logs that get_focus_bone, TunableFocusElementWrapper, focus, ComponentContainer are not related to IPM, its happening behind one of the choices in the menu. IPM does, however, wrap around native_adapter.py so BetterException was right to estimate that IPM's code lives near the crash site. It could still be because of IPM's fault from what i understand from the crash log, some outside force was trying to force a focus on one of the elements in the menu and that did not go through, so no focus happened. Does that make sense? Im not sure which mod that could be, It might be MCCC as similar error was reported: https://db.modthesims.info/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=610075 ANYWAY luckily for us the next version of IPM (out this week) will completely leave that crash-site so it's no longer IPM's problem and whatever functionality if caused by IPM like focus got broken (30%) then it will no longer be the case as my current build with mcc looks fully compatible Hope you like it when its out! Thank you for being here!
Hi! The Pie menu works great overall, but I sometimes run into the following problem: At first, I wait 30 seconds and get a message saying everything is active. I click on the Sim. Then it loads briefly, and after that everything goes really fast. Up to that point, it’s fine. But if, for example, I don’t click on a Sim for 5 minutes, the Social Pie menu takes forever to load again. Is that supposed to happen? I think I read that the menu is supposed to remember the state so it doesn’t have to reload every time. So if I click on a Sim frequently, it works, but if I click on the Sim again later, it has to reload first.
hello! this mod has been a life saver for me for a couple of days now bc my pie menu was taking almost 10 full seconds to open! you really saved my game. as someone said already, i also have this problem where the action doesn't update as well, and i have to click on the item a second time again. it doesn't ruin the experience bc of the instant menu but its something that can become a little annoying. another thing i noticed is that the mccc menu is also taking a little longer to load than it used to be before i had this mod. it's also not something that bothers me too much bc for me the pie menu loading faster is much better, but i just wanted to give this feedback and ask if you plan to work on that. if not, it's totally fine too! so far i haven't noticed any other small troubles beside thoses ones. thank you for your awesome mods!
Awesome! Good news is that most of these bugs reported are already fixed on my local version 1.1.2 which I'm releasing after some more testing, give it 1-2 weeks, high chance of IPM early next week. It should fix most if not all incompatible mods including mccc and pie-menus. No more expired options visible and life refresh of options. Meanwhile while we wait, pleas check this mod that's compatible with IPM to make it even better: https://www.patreon.com/posts/171226825?utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=android_share And do let me know how that works for you too Thank you for the feedback! I'm double checking everything, we're on the right track this month to finishing it to a stable release
Is it possible to bring back the floating head in the middle of the pie menu? Kind of like sims 1 through 3
Lol, what a weird idea that I like?) Yes it's possible :) but I think I need to put this idea up for a poll vote, I do want to plan the next feature idea from some crazy ideas, I think this one takes the cut. I'll remember to make a vote on this after Modsby Queue Menu Mod release - (name subject to change) and IPM big patch sometimes this or next week and MDM patch as well. Yea, let's do that. Thanks :) Quick edit: the portrait might slow down the IPM on first start, then I can just cache the portrait but then no-one is allowed to complain the portrait does not update instantly the moment Sims face changes))
Hi! Love your mod, it's amazing, but unfortunately it isn't compatible with the new Sims4 update.
Sulsul! That is not true, the mod was tested with the new Sims4 update. Do you see a popup notification on the top right when the mod is ready? There is no reason for it not to appear because of the update, if you do not see it then another mod has 'swallowed' all other conflicting pie-menu's such as this one. If you do see the notification and it still does not work, then it's still not the sims4 version, perhaps still other mod conflict. Anyway, i recommend removing all mods and testing without them first to confirm it does not work after waiting 30 seconds for the notification to appear. Or the easier way would be to send me a screenshot of your mod's folder to my email: greatmodsby@gmail.com and make it my problem to fix for next patch :) I'm down to fix some mod conflicts this week
Hi i just downloaded it it works wonders for my game🤍 the only thing is the better exceptions mod popped up and it’s showing your mod? Should i be worried or how do i fix this?
Interesting, that did not happen with anyone else or me, it could be that you found a conflict with something I haven't encountered before. Best way to go forward is for me to fix it ASAP, and In happy it's discovered before my planned next patch release this Friday / Saturday. If it's not too much to ask, send me all your recent lastException files generated in Sims 4 folder and send it to me to greatmodsby@gmail.com and I will fix it ASAP so it won't happen to you with next update. It could be something that's already fixed, but best be sure then sorry, so if possible send me either the full files on email or paste some related conflicting exceptions here in comments for me too at! Thank you for getting back to me
I just want to say thank you. I’ve always hated having to click on another sim since social pie menus has a lot more interactions than the others. This mod made my game enjoyable again without having to delete or disable anything. This is worth the money❤️
I just had to join your patreon because this mod will literally save my life I already know, I am hoping once its fully tested and released that it will be out for the public though. Thanks for this!
Yea I'm not intending on keeping it behind a pay wall forever. The mod is not even a month old
THANK YOU omfg this mod is the best mod ive ever played with
Hey! Dropping in as I saw someone else comment this. This mod works amazing and is a lifer saver for starters. But I have noticed a lag where I have to click on an object twice to get the options to refresh from the previous time it was selected (like beds, ovens, fridges, chairs, everything). Additionally, selecting an interaction from the initial pop up menu as opposed to going into the segmented options (like initial press>more choices>friendly>deep thoughts) causes some serious lag between hitting it and the interaction happening, or the interaction doesn't happen at all. Thank you again for this amazing mod!!
Hey thank you! I'm happy to announce that I just had a more or less positive fix locally and I should be coming out with a better version sometime this week. I addressed a lot of the feedback including this one. I'll let you guys know as soon as I'm happy with it locally! Again, thank you so much for the feedback.
Thank you 🥰🥰🥰🥰
yesss this mod saved my game!! I missed my long sim sessions but couldn't handle the pie lag, im glad shift click still works!!
Never got it to work on mine despite extensive testing and removal of UI mods. Presumably there's a mod somewhere that's conflicting that's not UI related, but I'm not open checking every single mod I have. Bummed to have wasted my money, but considering other people don't seem to have issues, I'll take the L on this and wish you the best of luck.
Hold on, let's make it work, do you know what game version you are on and can you somehow take a screenshot of your mods folder. I can try to figure it out from there
Hey love!! I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong but the mod is not working for me. It won't let me regularly click on sims unless I hold down the Shift key which does nothing but brings up EA's regular cheat pie menu. I can only click on objects when holding down the Alt key... without it, nothing. If I'm doing something wrong please let me know!! If not, just thought I'd give you a heads up that it definitely needs more testing. I do have smarter pie menu mod in so that could possibly be a clash??? Other than that, I can't wait to see the outcome of this mod once finished and you are a literal ANGEL for creating this mod!! 💌
Hey, it sounds like a clash, does it work without the smarter pie menu? Can you let me know please
In addition to what I already told you in the messages I'd like to mention the following. I don't know why but my loading screens IN GAME (in addition to the stupid taking forever on inital load) takes agggggeeesss recently. Like actually almost unbearable... and I wonder if it would be a bit better to leave the cache for the pie menu during the gaming session and not have it reload when switching lots? I don't know what has changed but I can almost not do it anymore with the constant lag and the insane loading times... If you find any solutions for any of these things in addition please let us know <3 I'd become a Patreon again in a heartbeat <3
Never purchased a Patreon subscription before, but I saw this mod and had to support! This is awesome in a way that I cannot even explain!! Kudos.
game changer i was avoiding downloading more cc bc of the pie menu lag, but now this just makes me want to get more. You're amazing at what you do. Forever grateful for your mod; you're amazing :)
hi! love the mod. i noticed something while playing. say you click on a dryer to put the clothes away. well when i go to click on it again, it'll still have the option to put the clothes away, even though i'd already done that. i have to click off and click the dryer again, and then it'll update. this happens with basically every item. clean a dirty toilet, click the toilet again, and see a button to clean it. click off, click back on, the option to clean it is gone the way it's supposed to be. i don't know if this is a known issue that's being worked on but i thought i'd mention it!
Thank you for letting me know! I hope it does ruin the experience too much. It has been reported before and it is being worked on! The menu does this because it's 'optimistic' heh. I'm gonna focus on this bug as it seems like it's the most annoying one atm. Thank you for taking the time to reporting it, gives me another good perspective and your example with dryer I will now use in my own tests! Appreciated
Hey! I've been playing with this mod for 30 minutes now and it's such a game changer, thank you SO MUCH. HOWEVER (I'm so sorry), it seems a bit incompatible with MizoreYukii's Auto Pause on Pie Menu mod. When I click on a sim, the pie menu does appear instantly but it doesn't pause immediately but a few seconds later. Not sure if you can/want to fix this but at least people using both mods will know! Other than that, I haven't encountered any other issues so thank you again!!
Hmm yes it can be fixed I can make it compatible, I'll work on it as the next patch, odd I thought it worked. Thank you for letting me know
I love, love, love you. Really. I didn't think it would work, but it changes EVERYTHING: from a 3-second load time to half a second. You deserve everything in the world!
Thank you so much! I love that you gave it a chance to try it out and got a positive results :) Let me know if you find any weirdness or glitches, anything really! Helps me lots to improve :) Enjoy testing!
hi! just downloaded it, as i read, i saw the ''shift click not supported'' one, does this mean i cant cheat with sims?
Oh no it just means you can't cheat instantly, you still get it in normal EA times
I forgot to come back and comment: you've changed my game. Like, forreal. I've been dealing with pie menu lag for literal YEARS AND YEARS and somehow you've just??? Fixed it??? I considered myself a lost cause with a 228 GB mods folder (excepting custom content, it's more like 43.7 GB of straight up mods) and a dedicated social interactions folder that is at least 253 MB of that, and my pie menu lag has dropped from upwards of 15 seconds (yes, really) to INSTANT RESPONSE. Once you're able to integrate this feature into the drop-down menu, I will write you into my will
I dont know why but this mod doesnt work for me. The PieMenu loads the same as it did before. Are there any known issues with it?
Another mod is taking priority of instant pie menu and replaces it. Check all mods that contain the name pie menu in it and remove them to test. If you can identify which mod it was let me know so I can find a compatability fix. Make sure you wait until notification appears after 30 second wait. If this still does not work for you, we can move to other diagnostics
Ok so, this is an incredible update. This really did "fix my game," as others are saying. My sims are also reacting to my pie menu clicks /instructions immediately? Lag is basically not happening anymore? Never before. I don't know what you did, but it's incredible. (I should say, I am on the game version before the most recent one ...or maybe the one prior to that. Yeah I think I am two versions behind). I am also using the recent Lucien's Simulation mod, all week, but it was only helping a little (I saw a 25-30% improvement). But: for some reason, once I put in this new "instant pie menu" version? It (either paired with Lucien's ....or, I sort of get the vibe, the feel✨, that it's ***just your pie menu doing this, since it only occurred with your mod in, today) is making my sims move SO swiftly / instantly, once I queue something up (despite heaps of cc and crowded lots).
I don’t know if this is a coincidence, but it hasn’t even ever happened in my game. so first with the first version, my sims randomly got booted out the house, I was like okay added them back. then with the newer version I think the pie menu still goes in and out for me, and then usually with mccc it tells me when people age at 12am overtime ( for how many months i’ve been playing sims) and then yesterday a bunch of young adults just aged into adults at 9am randomly, and then my objects also keep disappearing, again I don’t know if this is a coincidence as when I momentarily removed the mod from my game with the first version nothing like that occurred again. Also when I search pie menu in my mods I only have like mods that insert stuff into the pie menu, not too sure. I didn’t really close my game as well so the game kept running i would just be in manage worlds and then come back into the family so the mod should still be active and it still takes a bit to switch from normal to instant itll come off and on.
Do you use any other mods?
Hi! Another great update!! It seems to work as intended, no need to reload the pie menu unless you travel. I did find that loading a pie menu after traveling was a tad quicker? went from around 4.2 seconds to 3.5 seconds. Like the previous versions, you need to load the menu for every sim you control. I can't see this being a limitation unless you consistently play with 8 sims. I haven't encountered any bugs so far, perhaps an extremely slight delay for the pie menu which I think is probably due to how many interactions I have combined with no longer having to reload every 5 minutes? but it's really only noticeable because of how instant it was right before, we're talking maybe 0.2 seconds? enough that I can see it but not enough that the menu hasn't popped up by the time I've registered the delay. So overall I wouldn't say that's a problem. I had seen people mentioning delay for the Change Outfit interaction in the last version of this mod, personally no delay on this version. Still compatible with Tyjokr's Pie Menu mods. I haven't had time to play much this week but I'm looking forward to some actual gameplay this weekend thanks to this mod. Thank you again!!!
Lol if it becomes quicker after traveling, that is not just weird bug but concerning, does that also mean it becomes slower the more you use it? Starting out is fast, traveling brings it back to that clear cache speed. Means it somewhere become slower between start of game and map reset? Maybe, I need to investigate to make sure. on a personal note : I generally appreciate you taking the time to give feedback. The goal stays the same, we aim to make it as seemlessly perfect asap and I'm genuinely happy you confirmed the bugs on last version was fixed - "No bugs found so far" is a killer comment. I was not expected us to get here this quick with the amount of caching logic that's this fragile. This means I can slowly start moving the working logic to other places and apply it other mods.. You are great! Thank you for being here! I'm so happy by this feedback i might start scaring people off with enthusiastic remarks so I'll try to keep it chill. Lets see if you manage to anything over the weekend, im looking forward to it. Xxx
Thank you so much for this, I have literally been having this problem for 3 years and have hardly played my game because of it. I can finally play my game. I am beyond grateful for this.
Hey! I started playing with this updated version, but I ran into a small bug. When my Sims go to restaurants and order food to the table, everything freezes. Time stops, and the waiter doesn't move. After removing the mod, everything went back to normal and my Sims were able to finish their meal. I have a lot of mods installed, so I know it might not be entirely caused by this one, but I wanted to let you know just in case.
Hi!!!!! Okay cool so I can't think of any reason the mod would freeze everyone in a restaurant when ordering food. it's so weirdly speciphic I should take a separate look at it. I'll let you know if it's IPM or you might need to send me the list of your full mod folder for me to figure it why that's the case. I'm 70% sure it's not IPM. What's your mod folder like? Have you experiences this happening twice? Can anybody else confirm this please.
i've been playing around with the latest release and so far my biggest complaint: cached menus resetting which made the "instant" part less instant... hasn't been happening!!! everything loads fast and snappy. the selector menu issue also seems to be solved. i'll come back if there are any issues i run into but so far, you've solved the problem of pie menu lag for me! i even added back some mods that i've had to get rid of!! <3 <3 <3 i'm looking forward to this being added to MDM so that i can make the change to that as well :D
YAAASSS!! Me too! I only did IPM as an experiment to move it to MDM, because pie-menus are my kryptonite. There's crazy amount of work that needs to be done but it's so doable now
Hi! Thank you so so much for this mod my game is actually playable now 😭 I have a pretty slow laptop with definitely too many mods but I don’t want to remove them to fix pie menu lag🤣 I’ve actually been able to play gameplay without getting frustrated and now I look forward to loading my game up thanks to you🫶🏻
That is so nice! Thank you for getting back to me and letting me know :) that made my day!
Hi! Thank you so much for the update! This mod has FINALLY brought me back to the game, because now I don’t have to wait forever for the pie menu to open! I wanted to ask one small question. In the archive for [Modsby] Instant Pie Menu 1.0.11.6, there was a "data" folder, but I don’t see it in this new archive. Is that folder no longer needed? Should I delete the old one, or should I keep it?
Not the mod author but I did a fresh install (so deleted everything and then installed the new version) and it did generate a data folder so it's likely needed :))
YOU FIXED MY GAME😭💕
Oh nice I take that it worked yay