Zombie Exodus: Safe Haven Trade System
I am writing and coding the trading system that will go into Part 4. This will allow you to trade with other groups, such as the Silverthorne Militia, the River Dogs, and others.
I would like to incorporate some unique items that you can only get by trading with other groups. The five groups are as follows:
Southern Ute
Red Mamba Biker Club (Thelma's group)
The Museum group
River Dogs
Silverthornes
What types of unique items do you think these groups would have?
For example, I was thinking that the Red Mamba Biker Club may have a Cobray Terminator 12-Gauge Shotgun. It's a bizarre, single-shot, pump-action shotgun from the 1980s.

What items would you recommend for the groups?
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Full plate armor and a trusty steed?
You could add a 45/70 lever action called "The Medicine Stick" from the Ute. It'd be something else that would use 45/70 and a fallout new vegas reference. The in game model in Fallout new vegas has a dream catcher on the stock and some tribal carvings on the wood. It'd be just a special variant of the lever action. Take your pick of manufacturers, winchester would make sense. I know the Cheyenne put some spiritual and cultural significance for some models of winchester and henry rifles. This would obviously be a Ute exclusive your could purchase after high reputation Another for the Ute weapon could be a Gunstock war club. Essentially it's a wooden gunstock that has ornamentation on it from deeds the owner has done, as well as sometimes spear point, blades, horns ect. It's a status symbol and a weapon all in one. Used by plains and eastern woodland tribes in the 18th and 19th centuries. A general resource you could add would be fur and pelts. In species that are over populated like coyotes it's more sustainable than cotton. Chemicals or the animals brain are used for the tanning process. Hide and furs could make clothes, blankes, backpacks and bags ect. Especially in cold Colorado winters. You could just lump it in with meat collected from hunting. The Ute would corner the market and sell clothing Buckskin pants Buckskin shirts Fur hats in different styles in coyote fur Daniel boone style Mountain man style Davy Crockett style Unshanka style Rabbit fur gloves Rabbit fur hat Fur coats from bearskin or wolf pelts Fur cloaks It feels like a fairly realistic resource a Main character with high survival would be able to harvest and possibly craft
MELEE WEAPONS Comanche War Spear: Mod 12 (Southern Ute) Gunstock War Club: Mod 12 (Southern Ute) Curator’s Sabre: Mod 11 (Museum Group) Halberd: Mod 15 (Museum Group) Riverman’s Hook (Modified Boat Hook): Mod 10 (River Dogs) Spiked Tire Iron: Mod 11 (Red Mamba Biker Club) Tactical Breaching Axe: Mod 12 (Silverthorne Militia)
I was thinking, a rocket launcher, or fireworks to lead zombies.
My first instinct with unique items was that obviously the Museum group would have a literal museum’s unique collection at hand & then I immediately felt terrible because my inner “self-righteous Indiana Jones” voice kicked in (“that belongs in a museum” with a side of “that belongs doesn’t belong to us/US”). But then my brain said “that might make for some good character side conflicts and/or MC inner turmoil dialogue scenes!” because there’s always the argument of “It’s a freaking zombie apocalypse, who will GAF about history if this is the end?” Or “shouldn’t we try to preserve what little is still left for future generations?” - for the hopeful (naive?) types? Although, if you’ve survived so far, maybe there’s still hope yet? And just because it’s kind of where I started & seems like a fitting question in general IMO… “WWIJD or what would Indiana Jones do?” Let’s be real - he’d get a gun & just shoot. Maybe try to be gentle with a historical piece if possible. So sure, trade for guns, sharp objects, but maybe be gentle-ish with non-zombie killing artifacts otherwise? Am I overthinking?
Historical stuff is always valuable, especially if it's a useful item like a weapon or gear. Otherwise it's a status symbol
Big guns make excellent set pieces in combat involving vehicles and battles.
List looks really solid for new guns. I bet you'll also include some of the stuff that's hard for the player to get like the P226, 38 revolver, ect. I appreciate your time listening to me ramble. :)
I still have to go through your list. I just wanted to add some really big weapons
For services you could by The mambas MC and silverthorns could provide some sort of zombie clearing service or to send a raid at a certain community. This would only be available through a high relationship and a sizeable amount of supplies given The river dogs could make things in exchange for food and whatnot. Like car parts, homemade weaponry, ect The Ute could scout a location or give you updates on what other factions are doing Given I refuse to peak at what you've written so far because I want to see it when it's all done. I also have a very very limited understanding of how complicated it would be to implement any of this. I just feel like out of all the groups present the museum group is the weakest and could easily be overwhelmed by the starving hoarde of people that threaten the MC at the junkyard. They'd either need to join a group ( the players group, the river dogs, the silverthorns, the ute) or get raided. Their numbers are low and their only real resources besdies the food they have seem to be muesum items in my eyes. Especially since depending upon player actions they may lose their "free" labor and the fact that the mombas MC still likely holds a grudge. However you are the writer and you know the world and lore better than anyone else and I would never presume to tell you how you should write. God bless Mat
An M60 machine gun from the silverthorns would also be cool A variety of helets would be cool too. A Team wendy exfil or a PGST helmet from the silverthorns would make sense as it's a modern modular combat helmet The venerable M1 helmet served from ww2 all the way through the end of vietnam. It would make sense for the muesum group to have it. It could be from an exhibit for the local Veterans Of Foreign Wars chapter. You could include a set of ww2, Korean war, or Vietnam era fatigues as an outfit From the river dogs a Highway patrol motorcycle helmet and possible full highway patrol outfit From the southern Ute a helmet from an old veteran that has been customized to add a touch of his tribe could be cool Having different types of body armor like ceramic or AR500 steel would be neat as well if you'd add a plate carrier
Here's my list so far: PISTOL: Magnum Research BFR: Mod 15| ER: 75 |AMMO: .45-70 Government (River Dogs and Silverthorne Militia) SHOTGUN: Benelli M3 Convertible: Mod: 17| ER: 50| AMMO: 12-gauge (River Dogs and Museum Group) RIFLE: Barrett M82A1 (.50 BMG): Mod: 30| ER: 1800+ |AMMO: .50 BMG (Silverthorne Militia, Red Mamba Biker Club, and Museum Group) BURST WEAPON: Knight’s Armament SR-25 (Mk11 Mod 0): Mod: 25| ER: 1000 |AMMO: 7.62mm (Silverthorne Militia and Museum Group) OTHER Barnett Predator CarbonLite Bow: Mod 12| ER 100| AMMO Arrows (Southern Ute) OTHER PSE TAC 15i Crossbow Rifle: Mod: 15| ER: 100| AMMO: Bolts (Silverthorne Militia and Red Mamba Biker Club)
Yes, the Barret M82A1 or it's military variant the M107 is a semi automatic anti material rifle. It weights 32lbs and has a magazine capacity of 10 rounds. It is generally used against vehicles, however it is well proven in sniping and counter sniping roles against targets behind cover. MSRP on the civilian market for this particular model is $10k and with ammo on the cheap end at 4 bucks a round it's not budget friendly at all. It's 57inch barrel makes it excell at long ranges however due to its weight and unwieldy lenght it is better used as a blunt object in close quarters combat. It's an extremely high powered peice of kit for specific situations. Barret also make the M99 a bolt action single shot that retails for like 3 or 4 thousand. I've only held both, very heavy. The cool thing is the guy who founded the Barret company was founded by a photographer named Ronnie Barret. He photographed a patrol boat in Tennessee on the stone river that had predominantly mounted on it twin Browning M2 machine guns. He wanted to make a rifle chambered in the 50BMG round. The overall length of the round with projectile and casing is 5 inches, the casing is 4 inches and the bullet is 1 inch. The military has a famous round called the Raufoss Mk 211. It is a high-explosive incendiary/armor-piercing ammunition. It's meant for vehicles but has been used against enemy combatants as well. The rounds are rare on the civilian market because consumers either need to purchase from a specialized dealer or when the government sells it as surplus ammunition on the civilian market.
Maybe some sort of offer to merge groups with the smaller ones like the meausm group or the people at the railyard. MGL grenade launcher or a m97 thumper from the silverthorns. Ammo varieties are tear gas and high explosive. Semi automatic barret 50 cal? It would be very expensive. Mustard gas grenades from the river dogs because of their access to chemicals. Or maybe some homemade weapons like a homemade flamethrower or a 4 short barrel pipe shotgun. Checkers SKS from the meausm group, i feel like Parker wpuld like it for it's history and it's an upgrade over the machete. The T rex head to mount on a vehicle or above the main gate. Maybe a something related related to Kit Carson, the Ute had a good relationship with him but the Navajo have never forgiven him. As a closing note I want to thank you for writing and choosing quality over quantity. Espially as a gun collector I appreciate how realistic you portray the firearms. Your games have given me countless hours of play throughout so many points in my life. Your work made me fall in love with interactive fiction. Keep up the good work! PS sorry for writing a book in the comments
Thank you for all of this. The Semi automatic barret 50 cal is a sniper rifle?
I don’t know if you know this, but the 38 Special revolver was a revolver commonly in the 1970s most people have semi automatic handguns in their houses so I don’t know if it’s quite realistic. to feature this as a starting weapon, I don’t know if this is part of the Exodus universe or not.
enthusiastic zombie, Exodus and safe Haven supporter for life.
hopefully the trade system gets released real soon. I can’t wait to see how it works in safe Haven.
I have the core already done. It's about 10,000 words. That's going to triple
Western clothing from the meausm group from the searchers exhibit for sure. A colt peacemaker in 357 mag as well would be dope. I wanna be a cowboy
I like that idea
Baseball grenades from the Riverdogs. Maybe the Southern Ute could offer survival training to your group?
Actually there is a part in the game already where Elsie from the Southern Ute will offer survival training. But I like the baseball grenades.
and would cash be relevant in the later parts or not really. Is it just to see how much cash you can collect in the first four parts?
If you can convince people that cash is still useful, it could work
just wish Glock handguns were featured a lot more in zombie exodus that’s one of my favorite guns. in the real world. And their comment everywhere.
Southern Ute- special bow or native American hand tool/weapon, possibly some medicinal herbs or training available for someone with high medical skill. Red mambas- shotgun idea is great, possibly a motorcycle or something along those lines. Museum group- solar array or some way to get power from them (they dont seem like they have much else to offer) maybe allowing the player to set up an outpost nearby? River dogs- raw materials for building defenses or repairs, possibly a way to utilize the factory machines to create ammo or something else useful. Silverthornes- military type weaponry, items that raise intimidation or strength stat. Trainyard- use of medical equipment for if anyone gets pregnant or needs to give birth or have a surgery, raw materials from breaking down box cars.
These are all really good items
Quick question would be would we be trading in unique currency or US dollars so our cash that we’ve collected? Will that play a role in our trades?
There is no real currency. You trade items to them for a certain value and then you can "buy" items from them. So for example, you sell them five first-aid kits and get a solar panel and an AK-47.
Hell, yes, the terminator shotgun would be a really cool addition. Picked one up at a gun show recently in the real world zombie exodus got me into guns in the real world. I’m in the United States and have some training with guns so I know how to use them properly.
It would be nice if wasn't only guns, though.
I agree. I'm open to all items
