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July 18, 2026

EARLY Access: Shawn Ryan Show #323 Annie Jacobsen

Annie Jacobsen is a Pulitzer Prize finalist, investigative journalist, and bestselling author known for her in-depth reporting on national security, intelligence, military history, and classified government programs. She is the author of several acclaimed books, including Nuclear War: A Scenario, Area 51, Operation Paperclip, The Pentagon's Brain, and Surprise, Kill, Vanish. Drawing on extensive interviews with military leaders, intelligence officials, scientists, and policymakers, her work explores some of the most secretive aspects of the U.S. government, from Cold War programs and covert operations to modern nuclear strategy and emerging global threats.

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J Ryan · July 21, 2026

I hate to poke such a minor hole in this, but her assertion that until the scamdemic there were only two BSL4 sites in the US is incorrect. She failed to mention the Rocky Mountain Lab in Montana, so how many more are there that have not been widely covered?

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Paul R. Anderson · July 20, 2026

To say I dont know with out sounding stupid. I say That has yet to be revealed to us.

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Kellie Weible · July 19, 2026

Hey if anyone from the show sees this I have a guest suggestion. Claire Dunn her podcast is the real real. I would love to see Shawn interview her about what’s going on with our farmers and ranchers. Our Food!!! I don’t think you all would regret it.

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Julie · July 18, 2026

Informative a great deal of knowledge to integrate into my belief systems