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June 10, 2026

EARLY Access: Shawn Ryan Show #312 Sabrina Pasterski

Sabrina Gonzalez Pasterski is a first-generation Cuban-American theoretical physicist from Chicago whose life has been shaped by flight and physics. She began flight lessons at age nine and, between ages 12 and 14, built a single-engine Zenith CH 601 XL aircraft from a kit, making her own engineering modifications after fatal midair breakups involving the model. At 16, before she had a driver’s license, she flew the aircraft solo. The FAA later allowed her demonstration flight to validate her modifications before grounding the fleet.

At MIT, Pasterski became the first freshman selected for NASA’s January Operational Internship, received the inaugural MIT Freshman Entrepreneurship Award, interned at NASA Kennedy Space Center and CERN, and graduated first in her MIT Physics class. She earned her PhD from Harvard in 2019 under Andrew Strominger, focusing on quantum gravity, then joined Canada’s Perimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics at 27 as its youngest faculty member and one of only three women on staff at the time. She now leads the Celestial Holography Initiative, and her honors include Scientific American’s 30 Under 30, Forbes 30 Under 30 in Science, and the Albert Einstein Foundation’s “100 Greatest Innovators.

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Steven Feister · June 24, 2026

28 mins in I think I’m too dumb for this one

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alpha wright · June 22, 2026

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CatDaddyTank · June 13, 2026

If anybody wants a followup or deep drive on this go to PBS Space Time on Youtube. I believe they have a Patreon also.

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Drock · June 12, 2026

My goy brain can't keep up

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Vince · June 12, 2026

Thank you, Shawn after listening to Sabrina’s interview half the circuits in my brain are completely fried. 🤣 her brain and speech moves so quickly.

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Killamomilla · June 12, 2026

I've never felt so dumb listening to a podcast. 😂

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Norma · June 12, 2026

How many gummy bears did she eat?! Sabrina, slow your words, I’m still playing catch up. 🫶

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Barlow · June 12, 2026

Ughhhh lady stop

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Kayleen Garcia · June 12, 2026

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Tyler Gockman · June 11, 2026

She reminds me of Lydia from Breaking Bad lol Interesting stuff though.

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Jaime Arredondo · June 11, 2026

Shawn. String theory is a theoretical framework in physics proposing that the fundamental building blocks of the universe are not zero-dimensional point particles, but tiny, vibrating one-dimensional "strings". It aims to act as a "Theory of Everything" by successfully merging quantum mechanics with Albert Einstein's general theory of relativity

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Eric Marchewka · June 11, 2026

🤯

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Tee Lock · June 10, 2026

I really appreciated this interview because she helped you dispel some of the malinformed assumptions out there regarding cosmological origins, physics, and commercial use cases. Too bad she didn’t have time to go into some of the fundamentals of physics to help provide context to many of the theorems y’all were discussing (catch her jokes on time travel and epistemology?! 🤭).

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Tex · June 10, 2026

I love her! She's awesome in her awkwardness.

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Tyler Studt - TRIBE 4 Children · June 10, 2026

She's a badass in her field. Didn't know much about her. Gonna have to look into her work. Another person i think you guys would enjoy having on is Dr. William West. He is a neurosurgeon but talks about the Higgs Boson Field etc and shows the connection through a Christian lense. Highly recommend his book called Sacred Science.

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Lonnie McGee · June 10, 2026

Omg, slow down down lady... like I get it you are excited and you love your work but you are like zoom, zing, zang... you are probably also nervous and thats why you laughing at everything.... but I can't follow anything you are saying you are speaking about all these things and using terminology as if everyone knows what you know, and you are all over the place and so fast just to say nothing. Am I the only one that feels this way?? Im not getting anything out of this.... im not trying to be rude but im almost certain this lady could actually teach me something but she isnt even really completing sentences or thoughts... eeek....

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Lonnie McGee · June 10, 2026

Lol ok good, now I know im not the only one after the 1st break.... sheesh...

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weighthead84 · June 10, 2026

She is the type of person that the writers of the Big Bang Theory tried to write their show about. She's so happy about everything she knows about.

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Alex Larson · June 10, 2026

Great interview, this girl talks in fast forward mode . Lol

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Robert Diggins · June 10, 2026

there have been observations that show that the redness of galaxies might be intrinsic and based on age. the levels are quantized into steps and we have observations of connected Galaxy pairs with each Galaxy in each connection having impossibly different red shifts so it can't be just a Doppler effect of light. I recommend the book, "Seeing Red", by HALTON ARP, who made those observations which are easily duplicated but was not allowed to publish them because they break the standard model. and that's the truth, which means the universe might not be expanding faster than the speed of light or whatever BS they come up with like Red Green show duct tape. prove that science is different than religion by trying to question authority on this matter!

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Robert Diggins · June 10, 2026

a plasmoid is like a capacitor it can receive store and dispense energy and might be what powers the Stars which if you take a look at them in the JWST images you can see that they are created like pearls on a string or an electric current with z pinches. 🤔

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Robert Diggins · June 10, 2026

if the guest sees this please look at the SAFIRE Project experiments and the resulting company, Aurepn Energy LTD. They discovered a natural process that is the self-organization of some charged plasma into EM containment Fields separated by double layers. They also found excessive heat created through what they call medium temperature fusion. The company has engineered power stations the size of train cars that feedback The energy they need to run and produce energy. they are working with the United States military and "remote locations". Take a look at their website! 😉 we need more brilliant minds and childlike curiosity and energy, and humility, for the coming paradigm shift. she would be a wonderful asset 🤞 BTW, did anyone else notice that her complaints about religion were almost the same as her complaints about physics and academia more so academia and the dogma?

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Robert Diggins · June 10, 2026

I enjoyed this thank you. she does a very good job at expressing from the outset that physics in academia is just as dogmatic as religion, particularly with her comments throughout saying that you are going to be put in a framework a dogma of string theory if you try to get a PhD or any career opportunities in physics. it also sounds like she is trying to alert the world that physics is now run by mathematicians and not by observation as it should be. hopefully this will change when the baby boomers which are the largest swath of our population age out. one question I would ask her is can you attempt to replace black holes with plasmoids and find out why plasma cosmology hasn't moved forward because of an assumption that everyone has made for the last 60 years? Also, it was so nice to hear that she's interested in electric fields and I hope that she would consider that three modes of plasma are what makeup 99.9% of our visible universe. and that electric currents named after a Norwegian experimentalist who was the first to hypothesize that our auroras are plasma plasma, charged by the Sun, Birkeland Currents - even in dark mode plasma which is why we can't always see these currents. but we have already observed galactic scale magnetic fields, so we should be able to imagine electric currents at the same scale. this would simplify the orchestration of the cosmos with a force much more powerful than gravity, the weakest of all forces and the reason that we needed to create mathematical duct tape for the jalopy standard model to keep it running, e.g. "Dark Matter", and then wasted generations of great minds like hers searching for it to no avail.

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Matthew Oldham · June 10, 2026

I love how she can break it down like I’m 5

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DAB Enterprises, LLC · June 10, 2026

A fellow autistic genius nerd. Thank you for rep'ing our community once in a while Shawn. 😆 She's way cuter then me however. 😆 My face for radio only got me into RIT instead of MIT although I tried but I love / laugh that she talks as fast as I do. 🤯

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Jon · June 10, 2026

Shawn!! You're the fucking man brother. Thank you far ALWAYS calling it like it is. Much love from PA brother 🙏🏼🇮🇱💩

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EUGENE Okamoto · June 10, 2026

That was a great show shawn I thing she is very cool

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Chris Kantzavelos · June 10, 2026

I feel dumb listening to this 🫣

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Jaime Arredondo · June 11, 2026

She’s really bad at explaining things.

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Mark Woodruff · June 10, 2026

This is another amazing interview. Thank you

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Michael King · June 10, 2026

Well dang. I’m a serious underachiever. Thanks for the ego boost! 😉

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Tee Lock · June 10, 2026

She’s got a good work ethic, open minded sense of curiosity, and surrounded by well-intended, accomplished mentors. She’s set up for success and I’m here for it!