How To Sort a Person: Jordan Peterson and IQ (slightly rough)
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How to Sort a Person: Jordan Peterson and IQ (patrons) (YouTube)
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@Nelson Denbigh that makes Peterson's seeming defense of the "caricature" position all the more unaccountable--until Joel accounts for it :0
From Nature dot com: "According to Jessica Tracy, a psychologist at the University of British Columbia in Vancouver, Canada, researchers who conclude that Ekman’s theory of universality is wrong on the basis of a handful of counterexamples are overstating their case. One population or culture with a slightly different idea of what makes an angry face doesn’t demolish the whole theory, she says. Most people recognize an angry face when they see it, she adds, citing an analysis of nearly 100 studies9. “Tons of other evidence suggests that most people in most cultures all over the world do see this expression is universal.” Tracy and three other psychologists argue10 that (Lisa Feldman) Barrett’s literature review caricatures their position as a rigid one-to-one mapping between six emotions and their facial movements. “I don’t know any researcher in the field of emotion science who thinks this is the case,” says Disa Sauter at the University of Amsterdam, a co-author of the reply.
It's interesting how he frames some things in a 'positive' way while the implications of why he says are gross. He says IQ is affected by ethnicity by claiming one group has higher IQ. Of course the implication then would be that other groups have lower IQ. Then, when he advocates for stricter admittance into school to better their programs or whatever, he is implying that some races should just be more excluded from higher education.
I've been struck by the apparent lack of interest in psychology shown by Jordan Peterson. He seems to want to believe in a simple, straightforward "real world" that he sees clearly and wants to defend against the idiots and liars who can't see it or won't admit to seeing it. Like, "mind," Jordan? This thing called mind? You've heard of it, right? That's your mind you're describing.
Great video! I’m a big fan of longer form essays, even if it means more wait time. One thing I’ve always loved about your vids is the humor. You clearly have a lot of fun doing this and it’s infectious. Laughed out loud at the bonus vid plug. I will enjoy my duly earned sewage, thank you.
I’m only like a minute in and needed to pause because I genuinely couldn’t get past how someone could claim that woman isn’t beautiful? 👀
Super good vid-- it's interesting how, as a product of the longer runtime, you arrange your argument here in a way that feels structurally pretty distinct compared to your shorter videos. Going through several seemingly disparate examples to illustrate JP’s weird position, and using this sort of russian doll anatomy to your various sub-topics (where you’re tackling arguments inside of other arguments), definitely makes the whole thing feel fairly dense and intricate. It’s different to your shorter videos on these kinds of topics, which feel like they have a more linear, intuitive narrative flow. But not in a bad way. It’s v satisfying to see everything get unpacked and eventually tied back together into a cohesive thesis!!
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So... do we think Peterson is going in an Ancient Aliens direction with that whole dna shit?
patreon question… who is your favorite superhero and why
Loved this video. The ending was brilliant! Just one small thing: reading through that Barrett article, she doesn't actually claim that Darwin was wrong about expressions, just that he's been misinterpreted. That said, it's still true that JP is being ridiculous for all the reasons you mentioned. Patreon question: what question do you want the most?
I’m actually not sure why the headline is written like that. Barrer says he’s wrong pretty clearly imo
"You might as well throw away the rest of psychology." Don't threaten me with a good time, Jordan. Also an incredibly weird, specious claim. I don't know anybody working in cognition who gives a fuck about IQ.
Needs more lobster 🦀 (Great video, WOOT WOOT BUSSES) Patreon Question•••What does Forky's consciousness mean for the Toy Story universe? He knew he existed because she createdloved him. How much does the magic extend to all other things? Why isn't the government using children to create billions of little loved toys to fight wars?
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I am sorry Big Joel but has noone informed you that it is mandtory to do a Lopster daddy impression when reading this tweet out loud?
I've been waiting with such intense anticipation for the next big joel video! Yessss!
Finally some new BIG JOEL CONTENT haha, just checked Patreon yesterday and my wish has been granted
just started watching! in the on-screen annotation about some more news, maybe changing "he" to "they" would be more accurate since its a team of more than Cody Johnston at this point
It's always been a they. From day one it's been Cody Johnston and Katy Stoll. They expanded and got a title monkey and a warmbo when that good good Patreon money started rolling in
