May 26, 2019

What more?

Hey folks!  This is mostly targeted at those of you that are not patrons (Patrons are of course welcome to give their input though!)

In my down time, I've been thinking, what keeps you from being a patron?  Content-wise, that is.  I know some of you have a hard time with the payment methods, so that's understandable.  Consider that you DID have the money, but chose not to support, what would make you want to support?  But I'm curious to hear what might be lacking to keep you from being a patron.  Let me know!

In general, I'm looking to see what could be improved outside my normal work with EA.  Try to keep in mind, I'm doing this thing solo, aside from the artists I hire.  I have no artistic ability myself, haha.

Is there any certain content you'd like to see, outside of EA?

Let's hear what you guys think!

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StandardFare · June 11, 2019

Maybe it would help to tie new potential patrons to the benefit it has on their favorite character or project. It may be that people decide to become patrons because they believe it will help the projects they are interested be completed, not necessarily because they would like for the creator to work on a new or side project like you suggest in the prompt.

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Good Lust Evil · June 8, 2019

Sounds great, keep up. :)

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Nothing · June 7, 2019

Was a patreon but stopped 1. I am not at all interested in Dozer's and Spencer's route. If I could play as Dozer I'd be fine, but with how sexual his route his and how I'm also a total top, it's just too jarring. Spencer personality I don't like. 2. MC is too passive. I wish he'd be a bit like Dozer's in route's where you are the top, having Couch turn around in his new jockstrap is a good example. It sucks that he love interests always have to initiate things. To be fair this is something that happens in a lot of VNs, but I'm kinda over it since I'm not at a passive person IRL. I like the MC in the Darius route and find his days to be great, but 3. Darius camping trip was added too soon, having to wait so long for it lowers my desire to play his route until that weekend happens. 4. There's other artists/author I support and budget only allows for so many sponsorships.

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Nathaniel Brown · June 5, 2019

I was wondering about the guardians of par'vala game. Is that gonna make a return anytime in the future bc that game was AMAZING story going for it for how short it is.

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Tipmon · June 2, 2019

I am a patron already but the only issue I have is the slower release of content. I was a patron back when you were doing 2 days per update and without the housecleaning. I totally understand the housecleaning and having a regular update dedicated to it is pretty much the best you can do honestly. On the other hand, getting used to the faster pacing of updates then having it cut in half has been hurting. Thinking about it and realizing that the ending to Coach's route could be over a year away is disheartening but I also don't want you to compromise your quality to do it faster. I am not sure what the best path is but I am sure you will figure it out!

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Joshua Rollinson · May 28, 2019

Honestly I’ve loved being a Patreon for at least a year at this point. The only thing I miss is old spencer’s Sprite. I love all the other updated ones, but for me I just can’t look past old spence’s Sprite. He will always be my favorite husky wolf

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D'Angelo Reyes · May 27, 2019

I'm a patron, but what about random "poster" images of the characters relating to their story? Like a picture of Darius floating naked in his favorite lake or Spencer dancing. Something to keep this patron alive between updates. For now, it's pretty much just a wait game for patches but would love to see more art in between!

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Tangakwunu · May 28, 2019

I think because he is not an artist these ideas do not come to his mind :P I love the suggestions people are giving <3

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Nemakalia · May 27, 2019

Was a Patreon for quite some time, two main things caused the drift (ignoring the constant concern over my limited funds which I tried to shift around several artists I enjoyed): 1. The story sort of stagnated in some ways while also making odd changes. It sort of felt like this was a "write it as it goes" style of story rather than an already made story that just got details filled in (which can work but risk falling on trops, cliches, etc to sustain in). The murderous homophobic Coach wife is the pinnacle example of this, felt like sudden, cheesy and quick drama similar to a sitcom/ soap opera story. Meanwhile the stories all sort of mull along, many days felt more and more padded. I suppose when the project was early on it felt to me (admittedly without justification) that each character could have wild arcs based on choices, with each character having a key trait. For example Spencer trait focuses on obsession and jealousy, so I though if you chose well you get loyal scenes of love, if you choose badly you wind up in more sex for pleasure, maybe bad enough choices had you cheating on him in the club with someone else. Now it feels most choices are "Fallout 4" choices, you get a happy yes, a sassy yes or a grumpy yes that just give different bouts of dialogue and maybe a missed image. 2. The art (which I know some people have been less diplomatic about bringing up but please dont yell). I spent a year trying to like CGB's art but always find myself remaining unhappy with it & comparing it unfavourably to CM. I am well aware this issue isn't addressable, but I feel a lot of people want to say "the art" but are scared to. I also appreciate the change wasn't in your control and wasn't done to spite anyone, but as the V in an VN it was a problem that stays around and constantly made it hard for me to stay.

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WolfBite Interactive · May 27, 2019

To be honest, it tends to be a write as I go! I'm what one would call a Pantser. There are some tropes and cliches I've avoided, but I haven't been able to get away from them all! Thank you for the input though! It's something that I can think about for future projects and as I'm reworking some of my older stuff. As for the art, I'm really not bothered by folks not liking it. I expected that to happen, but it's just how they present themselves. I completely understand that it might not be everyone's thing, and that's okay :)

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Tangakwunu · May 26, 2019

I saw someone named "Midna" in my e-mail replying to my comment that they do not care for the new artist. Also a thing I avoid mentioning because of the way that topic tends to explode when we the patrons try to discuss it with you. I also noticed many more wrote and then deleted the same thing Midna wrote :/ Maybe you should have made a pole with more than 1 artist for people to see their work and vote on who should have replaced Cursedmarked? (Maybe you can make a public pole and old patrons who stopped supporting you could express their opinion without any harsh reactions from you? That way people would not walk on eggshells in these comments and just speak their mind) Bare in mind many people do not have a strong grasp of the English language and can sound harsh and negative even if they really do not want to attack or insult anyone. I feel like that was the main reason some of us dropped from higher dollar support to minimum support or no support at all.

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WolfBite Interactive · May 26, 2019

Please just let this topic die. It's said and done and nothing is changing. Getting a new artist isn't as easy as just opening a poll to see who you guys want. That's not how things work at all.

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WolfBite Interactive · May 26, 2019

Gah, that's unfortunate to hear. I hope you were able to get your things straightened out and situated!

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Ninjablade45 · May 26, 2019

Are we getting Richards route soon? That is what I am waiting for.

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Drewihd · May 26, 2019

I have been a patron of you since about November of 2017 so I really enjoy your game. So I'll tell you the main problem with your game and why despite this I still remain a patron. The MC is just too unrelatable and doesn't have enough options to make him relatable, It isn't a huge deal for 3rd person readers but I play MC as a 1st person reader meaning I read MC as a self insert with my name. Many of what MC does or says in the dialog choices are just not something I would do or say sometimes if the choices are to flesh out MC to be more like how I want him, a good half the time I just feel like the Novel fails at this aspect. Some uncanny examples being the Darius route where truthfully I am more than surprised doesn't contain more sexual interactivity that is mutual rather than one-sided. I don't even get the choice to reciprocate the advances once in a while, some of the past few days with Darius have been wild cause there have been some dialog choices to reciprocate the advances. I have been loving it. And while I understand the end goal is to have a true love romance, I truthfully don't totally want this with Darius and wish that through the entire route I could have gotten to his heart through his dick instead. Hell, the Dozer route is getting way more horny than the Darius route and I feel like that is saying something about quiet guys lol. Dozer's route is literally tearing me away from the Darius route because MC is just much more relatable to read without the need of side or alternate routes. But with Darius, I feel like he needs an entirely different route, one where we have been fucking around almost the entire month and he ended up falling in love with me that way instead of me falling for him first. But I eagerly still play the game even if my Darius route is the only one I have to name Eric and read in 3rd person to maintain interest. This is really more of a personal gripe because you as a writer should know people who go into Darius's route are thirsty people and god is his route literally the Dry Dry Desert from Paper Mario in terms of quenching that thirst. But your writing of the characters is still very well done and is why I stay. (Especially the Chester route which is damn near flawless for my 1st person plays) Also, I stay for the hopefully coming Richard route. But I truly expect MC to not be thirsty in that one either so I'll get a whole lot of Richard in briefs egging me on for the fooling around I can't choose to engage in like every route already does with him and I cry. #FreeTheRhinoDickGodDamnIt #PolyamorousOptionForRichard

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WolfBite Interactive · May 26, 2019

It's definitely a tough thing to deal with, trying to come up with plenty of options for the player to go with. I can get waaaaay out of control if I add too many. Though, with Darius, I can see the frustration there. As for Richard, oh boy, that's gonna be a fresh route where I can take everything I've learned and throw it together.

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Rice Cakes · May 26, 2019

While Extracurricular Activities has good content on the erotic side of things, personally I've just haven't found really any of the characters or their stories particularly interesting.

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WolfBite Interactive · May 26, 2019

Haha, fair enough! I know they can be pretty boring sometimes.

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Daniel · May 26, 2019

most of the time in my family we don't even have the money for food so.... yep that's my only problem ! if was not for that i would gladly pay ! ( sorry for bad english )

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WolfBite Interactive · May 26, 2019

Another reason why I'm happy to provide the monthly public updates. Food should always come before this!

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Ninjablade45 · May 26, 2019

I agree ^^ I can't wait for Richard's route. Richard is bae.

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Noah Lionheart · May 26, 2019

I wanna be a patron for sure because I really love your work and OMG all of them kept me waiting for more and I can't wait to the Richard route! He has been one of my fav since I started playing (Also Harold and Chester stole my heart). By the way, I can't be a patron right now because I don't earn enough money to pay bills and patreon payments but for sure when I get enough to pay all of that, I'll be a patron!! Because your work deserve it.

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WolfBite Interactive · May 26, 2019

I'm happy you think so, so I'm glad to be able to provide the monthly updates to folks that want to support but can't.

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Derard Laevena · May 26, 2019

To be perfectly honest, before i became a patreon the only thing that kept me from it was an awfull lot of inconveniences (oh? what? paypal doesnt accept your card, and all you can do is order a visa and wait for 4 months? sucks to live in your country pal!) to go through to, as i put it myself, "get the content im paying for only twice a month". As i grew interest in EA, that became less of a point, and i just decided to do it. Money well spent.

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WolfBite Interactive · May 26, 2019

Oh yeah, a lot of folks seem to encounter the inconvenience part. I'm always glad when people can overcome that though, and I definitely appreciate the support!

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Dino Da Rhino · May 26, 2019

Ello there patreon follower here! As I've read in the other comments I would suggestion maybe doing a few polls here and there offering people what else they might like to see. I for one dont want you rushing the storyline of our beloved characters (Richard is the best because rhinos) but maybe offer mini games or projects like the L&L, or maybe the backstory of Spencer? Its asking for a lot I know (since you have to find an artist to do this) but I think putting up more polls and letting patreons vote on new projects and non patreons on what they would like to see in those side projects. People do have to remember it's one man doing it all but honestly out of most VN this one is the one that makes me feel invested. Twist and turns but I can relate to the people on the wait times... still ! I say backstories and L&L during wait periods !

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WolfBite Interactive · May 26, 2019

Thanks for the input! That's something I definitely don't think I do enough of, and I need to make more of a habit of getting feedback or opinions VIA polls!

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Lord Memnar · May 26, 2019

I was curious, was that Coach Massi intended to be a route if at all? or was he just like a passing cameo? Can't find a suggestion or criticism. well maybe spelling here and there. But that is just nit picky. Its actually kinda funny I only found this from watching a guide on youtube with coming out on top and going through said channel led me here. Thank god.

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Regonoreth · May 26, 2019

Alas, Coach Massi is only the route to Athletic Excellence. (As per the FAQ, no other character except Richard is going to be a romantic route.)

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BlackWolf007 · May 26, 2019

Hey dyne, I've been a Patreon of yours for a very long time and certain enjoy every bit of your VN. The thing I think could be a good addition doing would be either there back-stories comic(s) of the characters or routes in-twining/conflicting with each other...

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WolfBite Interactive · May 26, 2019

I'm seeing a trend in this suggestion! This is a good thing, I think.

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James Varble · May 26, 2019

Something I really are your characters and their stories even though I haven’t finished every storyline yet. Comics have been mentioned before, and I have some ideas about that: A bit on the friendship between the avatar and Spencer The cast as their L&L characters in Chester’s campaign Darius and Spencer’s history Coach’s novel A story set at Spencer’s club revolving around the staff and guests

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Jorge García Jurado · May 26, 2019

Patreon here, and as other member said, sometimes the updates are very slow and tedious. I know making a game its hard but twice a month for only a day per character is getting pretty tiring since most of the time you are not getting a huge day or something like that. I love Darius, and im waiting like crazy for the camping weekend with him, the sad thing about that is Darius says that to you on a Tuesday (in game day) and says lets wait for the weekend, which means i have to wait 6 months in real life for a damn camping weekend action, its a lot of time for something that seem exciting, so while waiting for it im like "ok, another Darius update, what is going to happen to keep me entertained enough for the camping weekend?.... Nothing at all" My suggestion, if you are planning something big to happen bewteen the MC and another character and its so far away from happening make at least 2 days per update so it goes on faster. I know building expectations is part of it, but waiting half a year for something like that is just a no for me. Another VN I follow is Tennis Ace and its a really good one that updates once a month but gives you 3-4 days to play and interact with your furry crushes. Your work is amazing just the waiting times are a bit off

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WolfBite Interactive · May 26, 2019

I actually thought Darius's past couple of updates had good content, so hearing you say that "Nothing at all" entertained you is a bit of a bummer x3 I do try to add something worthwhile in each update, but if I can't, I do like to skip forward, kinda like how I handled one of Spencer's days. Maybe I'll revisit that idea for some of these next few updates with some guys. That'll just bring them closer to their ends though! ;0;

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Amaru · May 26, 2019

Lack of money sadly. I once was a patreon but I couldn't effort it anymore :C but I would still like to become one again if I should ever get out of this position I am since months

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WolfBite Interactive · May 26, 2019

I definitely appreciate it, but you should always be sure to take care of your stuff first! I'll be her for a while longer, definitely.

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VampyrëanFox · May 26, 2019

I have thought about being a patreon and I support a few patreons right now. I think you do a awesome job. Honestly when Richards route starts I probably will be a patron. He has been my favorite character from the start. lol

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WolfBite Interactive · May 26, 2019

Haha, I can't wait to start on his route! Thank you too!

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Amy Eklund · May 26, 2019

I can't afford it all the time since I'm between jobs, however I will pay for a month here and there when I can. EA is my favorite game available right now. Believe me, if I could be a patron for $100+ I would.

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WolfBite Interactive · May 26, 2019

I totally understand that, and I appreciate the other kind words!

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RouvenDesc · May 26, 2019

I'm no longer a patron only because I can't keep up in playing VNs and adjusting myself to changes in a bi-monthly state. I still appreciate your work, of course. Other than that, I'm interested in other projects to support, but with budget issues I gotta make sure I keep myself afloat. I'll get back unto it once I have a better workplace with a more decent flow of pay.

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WolfBite Interactive · May 26, 2019

Always gotta take care or yourself first :)

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Makani Wolfhandle · May 26, 2019

I mostly enjoyed your merchandise, still cherish the pin that I put on my visor or my polo shirt even tho it looks slightly worn from dropping it accidentally and yet I'm still excited and looking forward to see more in the future.

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Coopsky · May 26, 2019

I normally rotate on my patreons as there are a lot of amazing projects, and sometimes there are some that catch my interest periodically, to be fair I feel that sometimes the characters feels somewhat predictable and I don't feel as excited to know what's happening next as before, that's why I want to let some updates to pile up before being a Patreon again

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WolfBite Interactive · May 26, 2019

Thanks for the info! I really try to avoid them being predictable, but I do miss that mark sometimes. Rotating patronage is pretty great too. Spreading the love around!

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Tangakwunu · May 26, 2019

What do you mean by you do everything by your self? Programming and story line?

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WolfBite Interactive · May 26, 2019

I do everything other than the art.

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Chema · May 26, 2019

Well, when we talk about that topic with our friends, looks like there are three main causes: 1.- Plain lack of money. We know of people in their twenties that don't even have a bank account, not to mention a PayPal one. 2.- A perception that the game updates too slowly. Adding a character's day per update seems slow, as their eventual conclusion seems more than a year away. People are usually not unreasonable about that, since pretty much everyone knows how hard it is to make a game, but still the feeling remains. 3.- People preferring to "wait it out" and keep playing the free version whenever it gets updated. That could get construed as a lack of bonus for patrons, or, at the very least, as wanting some "more", nonspecific feature as ROI. My BF says he can help you with that.

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KilltoD23 · May 26, 2019

i agree

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slynosis · May 26, 2019

Currently a paetron but I would like some comics about the chars or a longer running one from your holloween special

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WolfBite Interactive · May 26, 2019

Unfortunately, that was a collab with me and CM, and I won't be doing anything more with IDEKA (You can check his Patreon for more of the comic though!)

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The Mysterious M3tav0X · May 26, 2019

I'd love to be a patron, but I'm a broke college student with no reliable income at the moment...

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Raidyn Zantezuken · May 26, 2019

I just don't have money atm. Lol. Have a few I really want to support though and trying to figure out how to.

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Gaymercpl · May 26, 2019

Im a patron but maybe some short comics of the characters doing random stuff.

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WolfBite Interactive · May 26, 2019

Definitely something to keep in mind!