Radio War Nerd EP #387 — Twilight of the Wäffentwerps: #NAFO, feat. Moss Robeson

i’m having a great time revisiting this and observing the top NAFO people like Kamil in present day. A lot of retweets and last ditch efforts to sell tshirts and twitter avatars

Mark, I just reread your piece on ShamiWitness. Jesus fuck, nafo is ShamiWitness clone army. Industrial strength. Same circles probably even did the initial boosting.

Irrelevant footnote: "There is no political solution" is a quotation from The Police's "Spirits in a Material World", which keeps up the 80s pop theme.

This is one of your weaker episodes. Why such a deep dive on this irrelevant group? 20 minutes would have been plenty.

Kamil is the Waffenblob Woof...

These eps on the economic and info war of UKR/RU are great, but I am really anxious to hear from a guest who can provide an in-depth look at the current situation on the battlefield.

Moss is great. I remember how years ago he opened my eyes to the monuments to Waffen SS veterans in Canada and NY state. He’s been doing excellent, albeit unappreciated, research into OUN metastases. I wish he’d get more time to speak. Maybe consider using something like a chess clock to keep track of the guest vs. hosts speaking time. I understand the topic of trolls is exciting, and it’s easy to get carried away when discussing it. Mark raised the question and expressed his astonishment about how over the top the hatred of Russians as a people is widespread in Europe, even if Ukrainians are taken out of the equation. I believe this is exactly how the racism towards Asiatic Russkies manifests. It’s not as intuitive as a similar racism directed against Chinese because Russians kind of, sort of to a large extent look European. But it is a real racism nevertheless. It is centuries old. The great Crimean War episode touched on that. Also, I think at some subconscious level Europeans still cannot ‘forgive’ Russians for 1945.

Unrelated to this episode (fuck these dog guys are annoying, not on twitter anymore but one thing i don't miss at all is their bullshit) but I saw there's an article in the Atlantic about "the myth of the gentleman Lee," and I couldn't help but wonder if a fellow RWN listener wrote it

The Shiba Inu has been an internet mascot for probably decades now. Dogecoin was started as a joke (iirc) but actually started to rise in value until Elon came by and ruined the joke, per usual. NAFO has basically bastardized the Shiba image much in the same way four Chan users have stolen and repurposed Pepe the frog

Interesting episode. I would like to hear more from Moss on his other research.

like a lotta folks, ive always been fascinated by sharks. and when y’all mentioned this incident a couple of eps ago, my curiosity got the best of me. i really wish it hadn’t. fuck me, that was fucking horrific. and I never even read the comments. I’ll never recover, which is just and right. fucking hell, looked for a second that

Is NAFO directing any of their fire at the American right? There's a lot of american posters who mostly share their nazi beliefs but think Putin is "based" for whatever reason. From the interview seems like they mostly go after centrists/leftists who aren't sufficiently Pro-Ukraine (and Russians of course)

for an ideology that is currently losing to Russia for the 2nd time in a century, these freaks sure do love Nazism.

I thought I'd seen some things, thought I knew a thing or two ... but I was completely unprepared for Kamilia namedropping Michael Weiss

So Putin claims he invaded Ukraine to de-Nazify the place, and now because of the war Nazis are popping up everywhere.

Re: comments, Naked Capitalism has a pretty effective system for content moderation, and more good actors than bad.

Can I hear more about the 600 million pounds of rotting horse flesh please? These NAFO clowns are disgusting.

When Azov or whoever takes out Zelensky, this horrible, stupid war will hopefully end.

NATO in Vilnius said Ukraine won’t join during the war, but Ukraine WILL join right after the war, without a Membership Action Plan even. Just giving Russia one extra reason not to end the war.

Thank you. I hope this one gets unlocked. I want to share this with people who’ve swallowed the mainstream US propaganda.

This is in no way meant to conflate the two together, but the similarities in style between Gary Brecher and Kamil are uncanny. The fat, disproportionate body. The complete lack of social skills and overall demeanor in public. Even the dog shooting joke and "leave Russia a crater" comment read like a very poorly written Brecher parody. Considering GB was a parody already, it's absolutely insane that he's the key speaker at a conference hyped by by the Prime Minister of Estonia. I'd say it's absolutely crazy, but at this point nothing should really suprised us anymore.

Its been very unsettling watching people who profess to be soc dems or dem socs casually talk about how we could "wash" russia in a nuclear war. NAFO bots are extremely annoying trolls but the ones that claim to back progressive causes and scream at you for advocating for peace are the worst.

Oh man, I use “fella” in my regular speech. I had no idea it was corrupted.

Any chance we can get some episodes about the Eastern Front of World War 2? I know world war 2 stuff is saturated to death, but the Eastern Front is almost completely unknown to most Anglo speaking audiences.

"I had to deal with Pat Robertson in real time" hahaha

NAFO trolls are also no match for the genocide-friendly BJP troll army whose chief troll recently got a State visit to USA. BJP's complete social media army (also called IT cell) destroyed Rahul Gandhi's image between 2013 and 2019 through a concerted SM campaign pushed into even real media. RG has now finally made a comeback. https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/crores-pumped-in-by-bjp-to-distort-my-image-but-truth-comes-out-rahul-gandhi-on-pappu-tag/articleshow/97276690.cms

As repulsive as NAFO trolls are, they can't hold a candle to former NATO commander when it comes to lobbying for genocide: Ben Hodges wants to "kill or capture every Russian in Crimea" so that EU can have it's economy (his words). https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/06/08/ukraine-counter-offensive-armour-committed-fight-on-hodges/

Ukraine memes for NATO *teens*? Motherfucker shouldn't be allowed within 500m of a school

The “all Russians are guilty” is the same reason bin Laden gave for 9/11.

It isn't surprising that NATO's online army is ripe with neo-nazis, much like their proxy army in Ukraine.

Gross clowns, thanks for another stellar episode you guys

Waffentwerps. Absolutely magnificent.

Moss rules. Great get

I hate these fucking freaks. I hate them so much. I would give up all of my limbs and senses and ability to walk and move in return for throwing them all down a mine shaft and sealing them in with concrete. I'm serious. I would Johnny-got-his-gun myself if it meant their total destruction