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June 17, 2023

Radio War Nerd EP #383 — Economic/Ukraine War Update, feat. Ben Aris

Guest: Ben Aris, founding editor BNE IntelliNews

Recorded: June 14, 2023

Ben Aris joins us for an update on the US-led economic war on Russia, Russia's invasion, Ukraine's counteroffensive, and various outbreaks of war-related stupid.

Total time: 1:31:52

Direct link to this episode's mp3 here 

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Sound production by Telescope Audio Studios

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square coats · August 5, 2023

I'm curious to know if Ames and Dolan-Brecher-Nerd (meant as a respectful last name conglomeration) consider Ukrainian/pro-Ukrainian reporting sources to be as obviously biased as Russian/pro-Russian sources? It seems like Ames was articulating a bunch of more nuanced ways that Ukrainian sources can show some amount or kind of bias, as opposed to a blanket statement of Russian sources being so obviously biased that one needs to fact check everything they say. I feel like the discussion of the term "oligarch" might be a useful parallel here w/r/t it only being used for Russian persons and not their Western analogs, or being mis-used, etc. I confess to following predominantly news from sources that are at least trying to be cognitively empathetic to the Russian side, so from this perspective I find just about all info coming from the Ukrainian side to basically stink to high heaven and often not hold up to fact checking. And I say this in a judgmental way because I think the propaganda coming from the Ukrainian side is ultimately contributing to Ukrainians and Russians dying, and all the other bad things about the situation.

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Nathan El · June 24, 2023

Can you guys get Scott Ritter on please ?!

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Bill Rose · June 22, 2023

Have you guys ever tried getting Scott Ritter on RWN?

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Karl Childers · June 22, 2023

looooooool either this is a joke or it needs to be said that ritter is a sex criminal and to be clear by that i mean he has literally been to prison for being a pedophile

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Jaime Christley · June 21, 2023

YES DRAG DAVID REMNICK. A right scoundrel. I wish him ill.

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J.L. Vaughn · June 21, 2023

Also Petr Pavel did not literally suggest Russians be rounded up and put into internment camps, but his interview was a bit creepy.

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SB · June 21, 2023

'Star of the show' Carl Zha is apparently in Moscow right now? Wouldn't it be great to record an episode with him about Russia, China, Ukraine, Taiwan, and more? Or is he a persona non grata on RWN now?

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Karl Childers · June 21, 2023

wait why would he be non grata, what did carl do

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Doug Cartel · June 21, 2023

I'm close to Putin, or at least, I'm like 250 miles closer to Putin than War Nerd is. That's a lot of inches. Gotta count for something at any rate, anybody who is happy about this war continuing needs to be drafted into whichever army they're rooting for immediately.

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James Whale · June 21, 2023

Disagree I thought it was interesting!

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James Whale · June 21, 2023

Great episode thanks ! Love Ben and his analysis

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PW · June 20, 2023

Y'all are assuming that because the invoice says washing machines that's what actually arrives. Oh my dear sweet naive war Nerd Radio Podcast Subscribers!

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CT · June 21, 2023

Oh woah! We got us an actual knower of things guy!

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Cole Robillard · June 20, 2023

Who is this guy? In what world does Russia have the biggest consumer economy is Europe? The Russian consumer market isn’t even half that Germany. Seems to just be making some of this up as he goes along

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PostmasterFenian · June 20, 2023

Population dude double Germany's

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Doug Cartel · June 20, 2023

what he says re: sending weapons to Ukraine sounds too old. The only thing Ukraine hasn't gotten after extended begging has been the F16s. That and the ATACMs I guess, but they're going to get 50 next month anyways, which will probably be their one shot at wrecking the Kerch bridge. Russia accepted long ago that this was a war against NATO, especially after a few high ranking Euro govt officials bragged that the Minsk agreements were a fake-out. It's not like anything will change if Ukraine gets the F16s, especially since the F16s can't even be used near the front line because they can only launch off an immaculate airstrip. Deutsche Welle has been really obnoxious in pumping up this war, on a side note.

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Karl Childers · June 20, 2023

I don't have enough knowledge to fact-check Aris one way or the other but everyone in this comment section saying "it's just a podcast lol who cares if the facts are wrong" is being disingenuous. The main reason most of us turn to Radio War Nerd is because we believe this podcast holds to a higher standard of accuracy or at least honesty than other news sources.

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George P · June 20, 2023

I've got no problem with fact-checking and will happily read factual corrections. What I have a problem with is the people getting absolutely furious after every single episode that discusses the Russia-Ukraine war. It's literally every episode, the same people getting irate and insulting the hosts and/or the guest. It is bizarre to me to spend time and money listening to a podcast you hate so you can yell about it. Extremely anti-social behavior.

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Doug Cartel · June 20, 2023

Zelensky just seems like he's in the pilot chair but the whole thing drives itself. If the rumors of him being a drug addict are true, I can't blame him, because I'd be zooted out if I were in his position too.

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Dies Irae63 · June 20, 2023

People here complaining that Aris called Zelensky a hero. For gods sake, he won an Oscar! And got a fashion shoot in Vogue!! What more do you want?!?

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PW · June 20, 2023

lol And he's got his own fashion line now at Target and a new single coming out this fall! H8ters gonna hate!

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Amit Bhaumik · June 19, 2023

1:00:45 - "Zelensky is a hero, a real life Marvel hero." Which one?

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a clash of purple · June 20, 2023

Black Widow? Who knows, it's an infantile thing to say.

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Arielle Curtin · June 19, 2023

I simply do not understand the underlying “rooting for Ukraine” in this program. I respect all of you guys but what about the “Ukrainian” war on eastern Ukraine and it’s citizens, who they view as non-Ukrainians, and have been shelled and killed as such, since 2014? Do we have no sympathy for the Russian-speaking population? I simply do not understand all the “oh those plucky Ukrainians” comments.

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PostmasterFenian · June 19, 2023

I'd agree with you that the ukranian government is right wing and sucks. And Im also uneasy about a bunch of weirdo ultra nationalist retaking territory in the Russian speaking part of the country. But Russia is the aggressor, is also right wing and revanchist, and invading another country is a war crime. I think it boils down to that.

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PostmasterFenian · June 19, 2023

This comment section is a clusterfuck. You guys need to chill out and touch grass. The dudes an economic analyst. I would probably agree that his military analysis isn't accurate but again it's a podcast (and I am certainly not a military analyst by trade either so Im speculating that he's military analysis is off as well as I'd wager most of you goons are).

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etienne · June 19, 2023

I generally like Aris but it's kind of a lateral move for the show to say that you have to read everything but know the bias of everyone and create your own syncretic view and then just ... have on a guy who gets the tactical details of the combat kinda wrong?

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SB · June 19, 2023

I said it before - Aris is a fraud. Why they keep bringing him is a mystery to me. The conversation should have stopped at minute 10 when he talked about Russia importing washing machines for chips. Anybody who’s still claiming that this is how the barbaric Asiatic Ruskies get chips for their “high precision missiles” should be laughed out of a polite society. But alas no shred evidence is required with regards to untermenschen. He spewed a bunch of incoherent nonsense in between some reasonable observation. “Unlike US, Russia has small kilo bombs.” “Everyone is still fighting with their old Soviet era Buks and Kalashnikovs. They’ve lost all their night goggles.” “Five to one, three to one, whatever it is.” “Russians lost over 200K, at least 2:1 to the Ukrainians.” Yet, “250K of veterans of ATO, 80% of them are dead.” Do I have to point out that 250K * 0.8 = 200K? “F-16s and their incredible fire power that blows Russians into pieces.” Hello, ever heard of Russian air defense and air force? It’s a shame that John and Mark keep talking to such a character. There are many much more credible people out there to talk to. I suggested some in the past. I can suggest more. But I have a feeling they are uninterested to talk with somebody who’d challenge their views of the conflict.

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George P · June 20, 2023

yet you still spent an hour and a half of your time listening to him so you could fact check him in a comments section. my brother, it's OK to just take an episode off if you don't like the guest.

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Nathan El · June 19, 2023

They have no hope… lol. F16’s?! With what airfields? With what pilots? With what logistical support. This shit is about to be unsubscribed.

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Nathan El · June 19, 2023

How can Zelensky be called a “hero” when he is absolute puppet and he’s has utilized nazis and elevated Nazism?

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Ellen Harold · June 19, 2023

It is a mystery.

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Alec · June 19, 2023

I looked into the washing machine chips, turns out the chip in question is an FPGA (field programmable gate array) which can be *reprogrammed* after manufacturing/outside the factory. As an engineer I totally buy the story that these FPGA chips are being repurposed for munitions.

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Hans Anders · June 19, 2023

Although I believe they use chips that are also used in washing machines, I still don’t buy that they disassemble washing machines for their chips. FPGA’s are not rare, not only used in washing machines, and available from multiple manufacturers. Although most of those are in sanctioning countries, it’s clear they have trouble enforcing those sanctions.

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Gordon Schmidt · June 19, 2023

Anti-personnel mines are such a terrible weapon. They're banned for a good reason- unfortunately Russia is not a signatory to the Mine Ban Treaty, and while Ukraine is, Human Rights Watch has accused Ukraine of using them, so we can safely assume that's probably true. Vehicle mines are not banned, probably because there's almost no chance a little kid might get killed because of it (although they do pose an obvious hazard to farm equipment, as was mentioned in the episode)

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a clash of purple · June 19, 2023

Do anti-personnel mines have any legitimate military use? Are they even useful for terrorism? I'm sure that they can kill enemy soldiers here and there, but they're not going to stop a sufficiently determined enemy from advancing. It really seems like all anti-personnel mines do in practice is sit around for years after the end of whatever war and then blow up random children for no reason at all.

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xxx · June 18, 2023

Pretty hard to get through the first solid 30 mins of oil price talk.

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PostmasterFenian · June 19, 2023

thats the best part

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Craig Range · June 18, 2023

This clown of an analyst initially claims western equipment isn’t at the front then later admits to German tanks being hit by mines. If you take this guy seriously you’re a damn fool.

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PostmasterFenian · June 19, 2023

hes not a military analyst hes a financial journalist I believe dude. The point of the episode was the economics part which was excellent the rest is speculation.

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PostmasterFenian · June 18, 2023

I think aris' info on economic sanctions etc is very good and he's one of my favorite guests covering current events; however, the notion that the ukrainian army could rush the shipment of f16s and actually get some utility is absurd. They will be unable to operate over russian lines due to the s400/s500 systems and even so the fact that russians will most likely have 2-6x as many air superiority fighters makes it highly unlikely that they'd have any effect whatsoever. Mike koffman pointed out it takes several years to master the set of missions that that thing can do. They probably would be better served by more air defense batteries given their issues with s300 systems but idk how good the patriot system is.

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Craig Range · June 18, 2023

He’s a pathetic military analyst. No idea what is going on.

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Matthew Floratos · June 18, 2023

Great episode! Ben's a great guest, would be great to hear from him once a quarter or so!

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j · June 18, 2023

Gives me hope when hearing informed people having open discussion….. for some reason not the main stream model…

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David Andrews · June 18, 2023

Ben Aris is always a great guest.

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PW · June 20, 2023

Yea, we love to rip him a new one down here in the rough and tumble comments. And he loves it too or he wouldn't come back.

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Daniel · June 18, 2023

Aris says Europe is afraid of giving Ukraine too much. Respectfully, this seems like a dated take to me. Many European countries as well as the US are now all in and giving Ukraine some of their best stuff: Leopards, Gripens, F-16s, Abrams, Storm Shadows, ATACMS, Patriots, Excaliburs, HIMARS, depleted uranium munitions. What does Aris think they're holding back on? If anything I think the West is so heavily invested in Ukraine they'll do whatever they can short of nukes and WW3.

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J P 3 · June 18, 2023

Most of the stuff that Ukraine is getting is probably 15 to 30 years old with upgraded electronics. Still very capable, and well maintained, but it's surplus inventory. HIMARS are short-range version. As has been publicly reported, Ukraine is getting a a few dozen upgraded versions of the Abrams M1A1, not the most recent version of the M1A2. If the U.S. or allies transfer F-16s, F-18s or the Gripen, same story.

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Patrick Friel · June 18, 2023

Great episode. War madness.

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Of course · June 18, 2023

12:42 - Truly dismayed that Mark said India had Russia "by the throat"... when "over a barrel" was staring you right in the face! For shame...

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Mark Ames · June 23, 2023

thought you were going to call me out for not saying "by the balls", bravo sir!

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PW · June 18, 2023

I suspect the IMF will happily swoop down on the remains of Ukraine after the war and really put the screws to them in true Western fashion. And the Zelensky's will happily sell out whomever is left.

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CR · June 18, 2023

Haven’t they already laid down the groundwork to sell off every piece of state property down to the nails once this ends?

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CR · June 17, 2023

Re: the assumption that to be wealthy in Russia means that you must be a criminal - Amazing how that only applies to Russia AND NO OTHER COUNTRY.

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Ander Pierce · June 17, 2023

When Ben brought up oil technology I wondered about the Brazilian state oil company PBR, industry leader in margins, engineering, and technology, and we all know that BRICS is more important to Lula than sticking it to Russia