Radio War Nerd EP #98 — American Nazis from Oregon to Charlottesville

I laughed out loaud at the part where Mark was talking about how Confederates couldn't even get the planter class to contribute any of their property to the war effort. Any recommendations for where I could read more about that?

Great podcast and a great guest. Glad you made it public. And congrats on making it to NZ. For a moment I was wondering if Europe was going to be some sort of purgatory for you.

Great podcast and a great guest. Glad you made it public. And congrats on making it to NZ. For a moment I was wondering if Europe was going to be some sort of purgatory for you.

So, when are you guys going to get Angela Nagle on for an interview about the whole Alt-right/fascist thing. Seems like a good match :)

looks like the "weaponized car" is trending: <a href="http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/318-66/45395-someone-drove-through-a-crowd-of-demonstrators-at-vigil-in-missouri" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/318-66/45395-someone-drove-through-a-crowd-of-demonstrators-at-vigil-in-missouri</a>

<a href="http://anti-imperialist-u.blogspot.com/2017/08/exposing-underground-right-v-2.html" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://anti-imperialist-u.blogspot.com/2017/08/exposing-underground-right-v-2.html</a> My series on the Nazi Underground 1945-2017

<a href="http://anti-imperialist-u.blogspot.com/2017/08/exposing-underground-right-v-2.html" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://anti-imperialist-u.blogspot.com/2017/08/exposing-underground-right-v-2.html</a>

<a href="http://anti-imperialist-u.blogspot.com/2017/06/undeground-reich-v-2.html" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://anti-imperialist-u.blogspot.com/2017/06/undeground-reich-v-2.html</a>

And Spain had colonial possesions in Morocco. It had a terrible defeat in 1921 at Annual (like Italy's Adua) with a whole army slaughtered there. There's lot of Moroccan immigration due to the housing Bubble. Most of them became cheap construction workforce. Many blame them that, after the crisis begun, those who remain live thanks to the welfare state (entitlements, pensions...), Which fuels some xenophobe feelings.

Hi all. Listened your comments about the attack in Barcelona. I was less than a kilometer there. Just saw the scared and confused face of the tourists and, as you said, an organised chaos in a very European way. The guy dead in the car was a poor fellow who was parking his car and was stabbed by the Las Ramblas terrorist, who put the corpse in the rear sit of the car and escaped with that car. Mood here... Lots of police around. People embracing each other and bringing flowers to remember the fallen. Some wonder why there were no concrete barriers in such an obvious target. And the Catalan police (mossos) are accused by the Spanish Police (Policía Nacional and Guardia Civil) of being marginalised during the investigation. In Ripoll, the place were the terrorist cell members grew, the relatives of the terrorists talk about receiving threats. All was really sad. People of many nationalities were dead. Their bodies were still warm when many started tweeting political messages, some very unfortunate. Specially in Catalonia, as the polítical mood here is controversial (Independence and all that) Very GTA It all. About De la Vega. The Zorro was a De la Vega one. This name is Castillian, not Catalonian.

You can not explain the rise of the "armed Nazis" without looking at AntiFa. AntiFa came to America with the same violent "protest" tactics they used in Europe for ages. The problem with that? America HAS an actual hard right that is ready to brawl in the streets and spoiling for a fight. AntiFa with their violent tactics since the inauguration of Trump has given them the excuse they needed and waited for. And that is exactly where we are now. We have Weimar America. Proletarische Volkswehr (well at least they like to think of themselves as proletarians) vs the Free Korps. History might not repeat itself, but it certainly rhymes.

I drop the blame for Trump and the rise of the Alt Right squarely at the feet of Obama. Letting Wall Street off the hook for 2008 was the point where a lot of people realised the centre, institutional democrats and republicans both, did not have their interests at heart. The people with a communist bent went left; the people with an authoritarian bent went right. Bernie and Trump were born. Also add into that mix something about rising income inequality, stagnant wages for 20 years and 8 years of a black president who said all the pretty things whilst doing nothing for real people. Hilary was too bound up with 8 years of failed Obama leadership to have a chance in struggling America. Trump openly rejected Bush and the war in Iraq during the campaign and portrayed himself as an outsider who would “drain the swamp”. Leaving aside he is/was and always shall be full of crap, he at least said the words and did not call real people in real distress deplorable. IF Obama had harnessed the rage of 08 and actually done some good rather than bail out the banks and preside over 8 years of the status quo I reckon Trump would still be a bad joke. (It also did not help that Hilary and the DNC are corrupt to their core and pulled the rug out from under Bernie).

The language we use to describe these groups has shifted in various ways. Not so long ago these guys would have been labelled 'Neo-Nazis', but now it's simply 'Nazi'. This intensification of language is suggestive I think.

It strikes me that the whole 'it is always Germany 1933' thing is off for these people by about 15 years. It sounds to me more like Germany 1918 on the personal side: Veterans coming home from a war they (subjectivly) lost, to a society not honoring them into a economic crisis seeking solidarity and belonging from a group. That is more or less all German far-right groups, Nazis as well as Stahlhelm circa 1919 to 22.

<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite_the_Right_rally" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite_the_Right_rally</a>#Permits_and_court_case Am I reading this wrong ?

I wonder how the Antifa can be described as acting defensively when they were attacking the rally? Then when the Alt right guys were kicked out of the park where actively beating them up on their retreat. In what universe were the Antifa less violent, less dangerous or acting defensively? I understand this is a left wing cast but please do not insult reality by talking this kind of crap. The Antifa went there spoiling for a fight knowing their enemies would be there. If the Alt Right did not have any weapons they would have been pounded 6 ways from Sunday. For me this entire thing is an issue of free speech and respect. The Alt Right should be allowed to march and express their opinion. Anyone who attacks them is a criminal. The Alt Left should be allowed to march and express their opinion. Anyone who attacks them is a criminal. Everybody who says that physically attacking someone who has a different opinion than you is OK is the problem.

The "Roundheads vs. Cavaliers" duality still survives today in the South and was very visible among the participants in the Unite the Right rally. They see the Puritans as the poison of the nation (right behind the Jews, I guess) and wreckers of the glorious racial caste system. I'm certainly no fan of Puritans, but the Civil War and Reconstruction are probably among their better legacies.

Just FYI: When he remarks about being gassed, it was likely Bear Repellent pepper spray

Thirding the call to make this episode public. On the topic of the far-right becoming more organized, David Hines had a recent tweetstorm that pitched the idea it was Spencer doing two things: being a networking/training opportunity for Neo-Nazis and being a "proof of concept" public demo to signal the utility of Neo-Nazis to the less fringe-y right. <a href="https://storify.com/sphenoid/charlottesville" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://storify.com/sphenoid/charlottesville</a> He's had a few articles about the topic of how the American right does/doesn't organize, and he's also done some compare and contrast pieces on the left. It's a bit strange, but, as a righty, he's very impressed with the activist left and thinks the right is almost hopelessly inept. He also dips into the "new civil war" rhetoric you discuss in the episode, although his slant it more a return to the early 1970s with lots of domestic unrest. (I tend to feel it won't get "Days of Rage" bad simply because the security services are much more competent nowadays. It's easier to keep a lid on things even if everything heats up to a low boil.)

I'm not American, and pretty much all I know about the civil war is Ken Burns' documentary. We all know about the Southern brand of far right, etc. But I'm surprised by how quickly ancient anti-confederate rhetoric resurfaced on social media (traitors/trash/slavers/marauders/barbaric/scum). And from the outside looking in, I'm catching the same sort of near-genocidal vibes that would come out of the Balkans or Lebanon. Or maybe it's just me.

I'm sure the resurgent antisemitism is partly thanks to the internet upbringing this generation had. As a reactionary young man with marginalised views, you are given access to a whole world of similar people. Mixing with especially comparable Europeans, it's not tha strange their fascism gets an old school flavour, since those ideas never really died in Europe. There is no such thing as a "white jew" in Europe; no such thing as a "white", I guess.

Seconding calls to make this public. I stopped my normal multitasking after the first hour to fully absorb this discussion.

This should absolutely be public if its not.