Radio War Nerd EP #457 — Assassination Retro
Recorded: July 15, 2024
As survivors of the wretched 1970s, your humble podcasters discuss this weekend's attempted assassination of Donald Trump & the possibility of the return of assassinations as a national pastime...
Total time: 55:59
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Comments (53)
The whole concept of political assassinations being curbed due to school shootings is an interesting intellectual exercise. But: A.) violence on school campuses is political, if indirect. Especially if public. B.) the high-profile killings of 60s-70s (JFK, MLK, etc) were State backed at the very least…not the public. They were not ppl acting alone “just killing for no reason”. C.) Since Reagan there’s no national politician that’s been in any way a threat to establishment interests…or even the APPEARANCE of US empire
This guy had no case for doing what he did. People have fucked politics, sure, but this is almost the opposite of your classic right wing strategy of tension attack. SS stupidity or malice; the result was the same, so not sure if it’s worth hashing it out. The only thing this did show is that NOBODY wants to die for this fucking turd. The police took no chances, the supporters of Trump took videos instead of any action- I think this finally puts to bed the whole “ciViL waR” argument. None of these boomers are going to spend a night in a foxhole unless it’s air conditioned
I kind of thought the opposite. Only going by the crowd behind Trump, it seemed like every single person was anxiously waiting to see how he was. Me? I'd be fleeing, but despite being in a crowd where a guy was shot and dying, everyone seemed to be still, confirming the fate of their only hope in life lol. Granted, I also think a civil war is beyond improbable
"luls" isn't even a subscriber, they joined a day earlier as "free" and we happened to open this show up to "free" followers. You don't get to post cowardly anonymous attacks on our guests here, especially if you're a skinflint. Violation of basic RWN guidelines.
I'm disappointed you didn't use the Exile method of editing his comment into something completely different lol
As a former wrestling fan, I know that the poster chapter:verse is John 3:16.
Is it useful to throw the Pelosi attack into this analysis?
Where's Nancy!?
The shooter also was googling bidens next speech. He just wanted to kill.
I’m sure
Would the de-politicization of the american people have anything to do with the lack of political violence? I mean how many people both pro and anti socialism talk about it as if all it is is taxes and public utilities?
I dont even think its de-politicization in the traditional sense, i think the increasing complexity and ubiquity of the capitalist system takes such a psychological toll on the average individual that they often lack the time/energy/will to martial any of their intellectual/organizational capital into direct resistance. Couple that with the consumer economy and the attention economy and you get people willingly/serruptiously diverted away from direct action. Plus historically you never see any real change/blossoming of revolutionary spirit until the breadlines start so i dont think its a surprise that most people choose to be hampered by the status quo instead of taking leaps of faith
Nursing homes are like a front seat to the destruction of our "civilization", you get to watch these nursing homes get bought and sold by equity firms every 6 months and the staff get cut and the food gets worse and you realize the entire economy works this way, just wall street firms squeezing money out of failing entities
First time?
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Baron Harkonnen - brilliant
what was that interview with a major Democrat donor where he talked about having already sunk a lot of money into the Biden camp, and wants to take the risk of a loss because he wants an ROI into his investment? if someone could link it that would be amazing!
https://theintercept.com/2024/07/10/dmitri-mehlhorn-biden-president-deconstructed/
There are always second amendment people somewhere at Trump rallies, and I bet Secret Service have begun rolling their eyes after eight years of "hey, there's a guy with a rifle over there!"
“School Shooting Club” Mark!!!!
On Gaza Trump is as shitty as Biden’s cabal although Trump would probably have red lines - craven and corrupt had none…
What is the French term Mark kept using? something dix-ans
désolé, won't do it again
I'm of Appalachian origin and did my tour in the Ivy League. John is 100% right. Hillbilly Elegy is basically Vance doing the "white but claiming otherness" routine, indulging the elites in their most lurid ideas about the region to get an in. It's "A Million Little Pieces" redux.
Now see, I always been jussa simple Leesiana crawdad, half French Cajun, half mama-don't-know-what, so y'all can't jus be lumpin' me in with all them other white folk like we mixin' up a roux for Aunt Simone's gumbo ... but with that said, the United States has a moral responsibility to invade, subdue, and rebuild the nation of Iraq.
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thanks, fixed it
Love the calls for peace and nonviolence while they genocide the Palestinians.
Secret service has 2 jobs: monitoring facebook for drunk posters vaguely threatening politicians, and tracking down counterfeit bills. And they’re only good at either one of those half the time.
Did this kid grow up in the same Pittsburg suburbs that My So Called Life was set?
John makes brilliant point at 11:58
A) The U.S. has at least 400 million guns in circulation(best guess I could find quickly). Sooner or later one of them was going to be pointed at a president or presidential candidate; B) "Stochastic" and how that term is being used evokes the wonderful line from "Princess Bride, " " I do not think that word means what you think it means,"; and C) A low level civil war? Several years ago, after yet another mass shooting event, the NYT ran a story titled, "A Partial List of the Mass Shootings in the USA this Year." A partial listing! The US averages more than one mass shooting a day. We are already in a low level civil war. It is almost certainly going to get worse. To quote another line, "Fasten your seatbelts. It is going to be a bumpy night."
A civil war implies at least two sides. Whose side do these mass shooters think they're on?
A good episode that calls for some response.
There are way more guns in circulation, but luckily we use most of them to commit suicide, which is now a more common cause of death than car wrecks
As we love to say here in the states now: the only thing that can stop a good thought with a gun is lots of self-directed bad thoughts with a gun.
"election" reference at the end! nice one!
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/law-enforcement-spotted-trump-shooter-nearly-30-minutes-before-shots-fired-nbc-2024-07-15/
Here’s my guess: Guy’s a loner, goes to work in a nursing home, befriends someone who’s more genuinely kind to him than any non-family person ever has been, then that person starts a sentence with “somebody should do something about…”
Regarding Mehlhorn's comments, it's definitely representative of the general centrist concensus on the assassination. I think the biggest reason the media is so depressed on the topic is that it basically made trump a shoe-in to win now, if he wasn't already. The assassination was like watching Gannon's second pick six in the SB. Yeah, you knew they were losing anyway but there was some hope, until this happened. Also, with Vance, the only thing I saw in the news for him was all the comments he previously had on Trump, one comparing him to Hitler. Another (unfortunately) smart move by Trump: pick a VP your people will hate, the old Nixon trick lol
Bring the Sumatran rat monkey to New Zealand and let it loose on Peter thiel’s property
It’s usurprising when we step back from it all to realize that the invulnerability of the secret service has all been security theater since 1981. Everything is theater. Once again, Baudrillard is right.
But the illusion is broken now.
Anyone see his roman salute as he walked off stage?
🤕🤕🤕
Read Ames’s “Going Postal” for the first time a few months back and highly recommend to anyone who hasn’t
If trump had half a brain he’d recruit a few dozen loyal ex special forces operators and form his own praetorian guard.
He'll do that properly after he's elected.
I am sure this will be essential listening as we descend into the stale hell ahead. Many thanks!
Lfg
Congrats on beating chapo and TA to the trump assassination drop. Old guys still got it.
Trillbillies beat everyone tho
Here we go