Study: Coronavirus May Have Begun in August
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You are correct, sir. I've since checked out America Uncovered and I was heartened to see he still had a fair view of the president, as I try to, despite the fact I dislike him overall.
I know you like the president's approach to China, basically strong words against their worldwide encroachments. I don't believe he understands the geopolitics of the region but I too like that he just says they're wrong when they are because someone has to, even if it's only for political expediency. But please don't forget that the current occupant of the White House has used dog whistles to incite racial animosity and xenophobia in many; and for we minorities, immigrants and the poor, his administration and the adjacent revival of neo-nazism represents, for us, the threat of the kind of authoritarian regime you guys at CU are against. Keep fighting but don't give the president credit for simply talking tough on Chinese aggression when he conveys so many tendencies in kind.
Chris has been quite critical on Trump, look at the coverage on the sister channel America Uncovered. He has mentioned before that since this channel focuses on China, it doesn't spend too much time on domestic policies, except when they relate to China. Right now, the Chinese are launching a media offensive and have been successful, in part, with their propaganda, whether it is with money, influence, or threats. Having a channel that clearly calls them out, and also notes who is calling them out, I think, is quite important in balancing the propaganda. In addition, knowing who doesn't call them out also helps us identify those who may have been influenced by Chinese pressure, or those who believe that divisive politics is more important than putting on a united front in the face of external pressure.
So here's an interesting tidbit on the bigger story about how the liberal media accepted millions from the Chinese for paid editorials. An Indian site (TFI Post) that's been very critical of the Chinese handling of the CCP Flu, received an inquiry from a Chinese telecom company (supposedly Huawei) to request the removal of an article, which quickly turned into a negotiation for a 'profitable' partnership. The editor refused of course! https://www.youtube.com/post/Ugyt19xEl1fFFQZPafd4AaABCQ Who knows how many other media houses have been seduced by 'profitable' partnerships?
Chris, you remember the report about China banning internal flight from and to Wuhan in January but allowed Wuhan citizens to board international flights to USA and Europe? Some say this is false news claiming those flights were cancelled at point of departure. Is it possible to check points of arrival data to see whether flights from Wuhan really did land in USA for a start? Teach me where to start looking and what dates to look.
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/05/trumps-flawed-china-travel-conspiracy/ It looks like this is the source for the international flights story. It says China banned international flights from Wuhan at the same time as domestic flights. However, even while China locked down its other cities, it still allowed international flights from the rest of China. So the story is true, but it doesn't absolve China. Per that report, what was reported incorrectly is that international and domestic flights from Wuhan were stopped at the same time, what was correct was that China still allowed international flights from the rest of country even while those cities were locked down. https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/blogs/Whathappensif/how-china-locked-down-internally-for-covid-19-but-pushed-foreign-travel/ I would be interested in seeing any open source data as well. It looks like the sites attributed require subscriptions for access to historic data: https://www.flightstats.com/v2/ https://www.flightradar24.com/ https://www.tomtom.com/en_gb/traffic-index/
Zoom is a rat's ass in distress.
There are rumors saying China is now printing counterfeit US dollar bills to save their economic. And it happens many counterfeit currency got seized from China recently. And even George Floyd got arrested for using counterfeit bill, maybe that one is made in China. Or is this all coincidence?
The missiles that were restricted as part of the erstwhile INF treaty comprise 90% of China's rocket force - yup they have a dedicated rocket force manned by 100,000 of the PLAs finest. It's core to their anti access / area denial strategy in the South China Sea and against US carrier groups. Here's to hoping for the best, but there's no way they're getting on board with the treaty as it was initially drafted.
Exactly...but one can really can on them being made with corrupt cost cutting as leaders take their share.
Chris has or will the international banking community and or the World Trade Organization decided to either severally restrict or outright remove the People's Republic of China from participating in those organizations?
End of month, I'm cancelling my checking with HSBC. It's not a lot of money, but I'm letting the rep know I'm leaving on principle.
My parents also cancelled their HSBC checking account years ago but for different reasons. Not sure if this is a common practice for banks but my mom found that HSBC continued to charge a fee on her checking account when it was below a certain balance. Thankfully it was a rarely used bank account and didn't have a lot of money in it in the first place. It was mainly used whenever my parents travelled to Hong Kong to visit family.
I have a harder time believing the coronavirus started in August, not because of the evidence, but because the chain of events doesn't logically follow. If the coronavirus started in August, we would have noticed it outside of China much quicker. The are direct flights from Wuhan to JFK, San Francisco, Rome and other international airports. Even if the Chinese covered it up, it would definitely have been seen in Europe and NYC sooner. One possible explanation that could explain an earlier outbreak of the CCP Flu, is if it wasn't initially human to human transmissible, or it didn't transmit as quickly as it does now, and later mutated. However, we may never get to know because the CCP refuses to allow us access to patient zero, early genetic samples or even an international team on location. That said, given what we know about the virus so far, I'm going to hold my judgment on that bit of news.
I agree that Harvard's analysis is a bit of a stretch and you raise a lot of good points. Data based on satellite pictures and internet searches can be interpreted in many ways and isn't necessarily CCP virus related.
At some point we just have to admit to ourselves that the CCP virus has been in China since ancient times
Quite likely, it was probably hiding out in the same bat cave for generations, until the CCP declared a cultural devolution, creating an artificial famine, forcing the common Chinese citizen out into the countryside foraging for wildlife, until greater prosperity made wildlife foraging a commercial enterprise from where that bat was mated with a pangolin in a wet market and branded as bat soup a la carte.