ANGELS MATING WITH WOMEN
Does the 1611 AKJB support this? Most modern translations do.
Following is from my commentary on the book of Genesis, chapter 6, verses 1-4. What do you think?
Vs. 1-4
“1 And it came to passe, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were borne vnto them: 2 That the sonnes of God saw the daughters of men, that they were faire, and they took them wiues, of all which they chose. 3 And the LORD said, My Spirit shall not always striue with man; for that hee also is flesh: yet his dayes shalbe an hundred and twenty yeeres. 4 There were Giants in the earth in those daies: and also after that, when the sonnes of God came in vnto the daughters of men, & they bare children to them; the same became mightie men, which were of old, men of renowme.”
The population exploded (v.1). And, the sons of God took wives a-plenty. Here the controversy begins. Were the sons of God men or angels? It appears that the title “sonnes of God” is equally used throughout the Bible of angels and of men. The next question is, what is the extent of their capabilities in the physical realm? Can they procreate? Angels are spirit beings that sometime take physical shapes, as per fellowshipping and eating with Abraham. Are they able to go beyond that, produce semen compatible with human biology, and thereby procreate with women? The Bible does not provide such specific information.
Hebrews 2:16, speaking of Jesus Christ, reads, “For verily he tooke not on him the nature of Angels: but he tooke on him the seed of Abraham,” indicating that by nature angels are different than men, having no seed or ability to reproduce themselves as men.
Regarding marriage and carnal duties thereof, Jesus said of resurrected believers, “For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are giuen in marriage: but are as the Angels which are in heauen.” Resurrected believers are spiritual beings and, like angels, they do not marry or perform marital duties. From this, it is most reasonable to say that “sonnes of God” in Genesis 6:2 refers to men and not angels. And, Genesis affirms that each species produces after its kind; this is also true of man. Angels, for all intents and purposes, are a different “kinde,” or order than mankind.
Verse four introduces “Giants” (v.4) that, contextually, need not be products of carnal unions between angels and women. After the flood there were giants, and there are today. Because “sonnes of God” (v.4) can mean either angels or men, it is common for readers and commentators to favor their pre disposition toward one or the other. Many assume that “Giants” are the offspring of angels and human women. However, this does not agree with the scriptures I cited in the previous paragraph, and it denies God’s order of procreation. Kind produces kind; angels are a different “kind” than man, though they do not procreate.
Comments (13)
I believe you are 100% correct Reginald.
"nephelim" or "fallen angel" DNA stories also links to the big-V (and how we're all gonna become "soulless hybrids" when we are "forced to take the mark"). "purebloods" and "the contaminated". such ideas circulating. if i had a penny every time someone talked about this...one deception spawns many. thank u for your writings
i haven't been down conspiracy-valley in a while. but also seeing links (of this error) with such things as people having relations (...) with spirits/angels/aliens, the great universal genetic experiements (Earth and humans apparently being a ground or well of lineages: re "Serpents Seed"...), and "UFO" abductions involving reproductive experiments also. pandoras-box of confusions. time to close the box. LOL!
Also, in this context, remember that, according to Greek mythology, gods frequently mated with women on earth and created mortal "demigods". So . .if you believe in Nephilim creatures that resulted of mating among angels and women . . then you are really believing in the Greek/Babylonian/Greek religious worldview . . not the order of things as explained in the Bible. I see the fingerprints of the Jesuits . . .lovers of all things Greek and syncretic perverters of Scripture . . ALL over this nonsense.
One more point on this . . . if the fallen angels were able to do this in Gen 6, then . . . why did they stop? Why aren't they doing it now? Where are the giants? Did God allow it then not allow it? Not by my understanding.
Why would the Devil want us to believe in the ability of fallen angels to breed with women? Perhaps as a way to create sympathy for his fate and that of the fallen angels by making God seem unfair . . through damnation of a blameless progeny (Nephilim) that should be eligible for redemption by virtue of being part-man? Pitiful Monsters?
One thought on "Giants" . . . total speculation . . . Adam and Eve were made perfect and sin entered in afterward. They lived hundreds of years. Mankind's life span reduced over time in succeeding generations which I believe is the result of the corruption of sin and the sentence of death pronounced in Eden. In the same vein, I think it is also possible that mankind was much bigger in the first generations than it is now . . with the "Giant" phase lingering until shortly after Goliath's time. Some evidence of this may be found in the animal world with various pygmy species . . which are the same in almost every way than their larger cousins . . but that grew smaller when introduced into new environments (Elephants, hippos, dogs, cats, etc). OR . . giant-ism could just be a genetic flaw (still occuring to this day along with acromegaly) that occurred along with other flaws when sin entered the world. Such that some men/women experience tremendous growth . . others had other birth defects . . etc etc. To me . . although it is speculation . . this explanation of things fits much more logically than the fantasy notion that Fallen Angels were allowed by God to crack the genetic code and mate with women . . and create their own hybrid creature that then continued to procreate afterwards. Again, I think God gives us the answer in nature. In the animal world, if, eg., you cross-breed horses with donkeys . . you get a mule that is sterile. Same is true of a liger . . lion mixed with a tiger. I believe a mixing of kinds . . angel and human . . would necessarily create a sterile offspring . . if God even allowed for it to happen. And we know, Giants were not sterile. Goliath came from a family of giants . . and the Bible mentions "sons of the giant" in Gath (2 Samuel 21:18 "18 And it came to pass after this, that there was again a battle with the Philistines at Gob: then Sibbechai the Hushathite slew Saph, which was of the sons of the giant. 19 And there was again a battle in Gob with the Philistines, where Elhanan the son of Jaare-oregim, a Beth-lehemite, slew the brother of Goliath the Gittite, the staff of whose spear was like a weaver’s beam. 20 And there was yet a battle in Gath, where was a man of great stature, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, four and twenty in number; and he also was born to the giant. 21 And when he defied Israel, Jonathan the son of Shimea the brother of David slew him. 22 These four were born to the giant in Gath, and fell by the hand of David, and by the hand of his servants.")
Indeed.
My understanding as well. Thank You!
I totally agree Reg. I questioned someone from the Pentecostal church I used to go to about this. I asked how can Angels produce children with human women as they are spiritual beings. And the answer I got was they procreate by power of suggestion 😳 I was like you mean like Jesus was brought into the world through Mary by the Holy Spirit . Sounds to me like something the devil is trying to counterfeit like everything else.
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Reg,as you said the word nephilim is not in The Bible.
Earlier, I went through all the top modern Bibles. 95% use the word Nephilim. It's as though there is a pagan agenda to promote Greek gods descending and mating with man. Thus, myths of Hercules and others.