WHY TRUMP ISN'T THE ANTICHRIST. LESSON ON FAITH.
The 1611 Fellowship starts by exploring the question why Donald Trump doesn't qualify as the antichrist of scripture. From there John Doerr leads us in a lesson and discussion about faith.
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I know I’ve asked before but I can’t find the reply to my question. I need to buy a hard copy of the 1611 over here in England and I need pointing to where I can buy a legit one. If you could point me as to where I could buy one I’d be very grateful.
HI Duncan, You should be able to purchase an Oxford Quatercentenary Edition in England. It matches the first printing off the press in 1611. Also, the Henrickson edition contains the same text. There are version of the 1611 printed after the 1611 first printing, and they are corrupted. A few things you can check to make sure you have an authentic 1611 text is Genesis 3:5 "yee shall bee as Gods" Gods should be capitalized and the word must be plural. And, Song of Solomon 2:7 must read, "till she please." Not he please or it please, or any variation thereof. It must say "she please."
Interesting initial conversation - not one we have here because we have almost no Christian influence so our culture is vastly different. (We are exclusively heathen unless you count the numerous Pentecostal churches in the QLD "bible belt") Hence the conversation only comes up with online conspiracy people who access information from you guessed it the USA.
Institutional christians and churches in America are obsessed with the Jesuit game of pin the tail on Antichrist. They should read their Bibles rather than favoring ear-tickling false teachers. Or better yet, get rid of the leavened Bibles that litter pews everywhere.
For me . . the focus of a believer in the End Times should not be to identify the person of "final" antichrist, but rather to take care that we not fall victim to the "strong delusion" of 2 Thessalonians 2:11. In my understanding, the Roman Catholic system worldwide is the fourth and final kingdom (Beast System) prophesied by Daniel. The Vatican/Papacy, located in Rome, is the "little horn" (Daniel 7 and 8) and the Whore that rides the Beast of Revelation 17. The Papacy/Pope perfectly fits the description of an "idol shepheard" (Zech 11:17) who has misled and abandoned its/his flock . . .shutting up the Kingdom of Heaven to all of its/his flock who would enter (Matt 23;13). Its/his withered right eye signifies an inability to see/understand God's righteousness. Its withered right arm signifies the Papacy/Pope's inability to do righteousness in the eyes of God. Because the Pope pretends to be the Vicar of Christ, he proclaims himself, by definition, to be Anti ("in the place of") Christ. As such, all of the Papacy's understanding and actions are 'left'/wrong/evil/Antichrist. An "Idol shepheard" is someone who gathers idols/worldly symbols of power to himself which is another perfect description of the nature and actions of the Papacy/Pope. My understanding of Trump's "fruit" is that he is not a believer, the opposite actually. I also strongly suspect and am largely convinced that he is a controlled asset of the Jesuits, and has been from an early age (a post on this would turn into a book.) As such, I speculate he is an important part of the "strong delusion" who has been purposely constructed/erected to deflect attention away from the Papacy as the real Antichrist/Beast system that controls the world. A Judas-goat to lead weak "Christians" astray, and eventually a scapegoat to take the blame for all of the destruction Rome will unleash. A false "final" Antichrist who ushers in a false Second Coming/Messiah/Christ . . who will be the actual Biblical "final" Antichrist. If my speculation/understanding is correct, so be it. If it isn't, so be it. It will be however God wills it. My focus will remain on the Word, the Truth, the real Light, Jesus Christ .. . and, therefore, to make it impossible to be swayed by the strong delusion. I wont be going into a secret chamber (think "secret societies" and confession booths) to meet him because someone tells me he is there. Matthew 24:26. Neither will I go forward into the desert (Middle Eastern conflict?) to meet him because someone tells me he is there. I will wait and listen for his voice and go to him when he appears. Whenever and wherever that is will be obvious to all.
Hi Roy. I don't find this subject at all mysterious, as many do. Daniel prophesied four major kingdoms (Rome being the last of them); and, that began with Cesarian Rome which turned into Papal Rome. Thus, if we believe scripture, we are still in the final kingdom and it rules over the kings of the earth. It may not be obvious to some, but such is the biblical mandate. It's interesting that Christians are so willing to receive false Bibles. When I talk with institutional Christians I usually ask them which Bible the read; and, many will say that they use four or five; and, I ask them why they do that? They say because it gives them a better understanding of the truth. I find that crazy, as how do you take four texts that disagree and come up with the truth. Truth does not emerge from error. Error begets error. Truth begets truth. Thus their minds have been conditioned to accept a false Christ. Why not? They accept a corrupt logos in written form. Why not a false logos in the flesh? If this is not strong enough delusion, I don't know what is.
i was reading this last night and think it fits here, about seeking (and reading) the book of the lord Proverbs 21:6 The getting of treasures by a lying tongue, is a vanitie tossed to and fro ... Ephesians 4:14 That we hencefoorth be no more children, tossed to and fro ...
Matthew 14:22-33 has been "cherry picked" by preachers of all ilks to imply (unscripturally) that Peter should have been able to walk on water. Taken in context and unbroken we have Jesus' command to get in the ship and go to the other side and I'll see you there. The ship represents safe place in the word of God according to His command. The seas are the tumultuous world all around us that opposes Christ and all who follow Him. NOWHERE in all of Scripture is ANYONE called of God to walk on water (or do anything that only God can do)! NOWHERE in either of Peter's Epistles or the Book of Acts (after he's filled with the Holy Ghost and used mightily of God) does Peter ever even mention this - why? In this account Peter is the only one of the 12 who disobeyed Jesus' command AND he's 1 of 3 who speaks to Jesus with the tone of "IF you ARE who you say you are THEN do ____!" The other 2 being Satan and the unrepentant thief on the cross. Peter learned a valuable lesson that day and never talked about it afterwards.
Peter should have known the Shepheard's voice, but my experience is that we are all like Peter at some point in our lives. We lack perfect faith and question what the Lord tells us. But Jesus is patient with us and will restore us if we call out to him when we fall.
What a blessing! I was nervous because 10:00 CST (my time here) rolled around and I still hadn't received the email invitation to join our Fellowship, then ~ 10:01 I got it 🤗 It's always about "what saith the scriptures" and not "popular" or "majority" of any kind of private interpretation.
ah i get nervous too :) im so shy. im working-up the social-energy to participate again