EARLY ACCESS IDSG 143: Michael Shermer Talks to Douglas Murray (and Others)

Jack and I have chatted about it and have decided to start offering the non-topical or time-sensitive mainline IDSG episodes a day or two early for our long-suffering Patrons. This is an odd one, because I had originally messaged Jack about doing a fun episode about Michael Shermer (of Skeptic magazine) having an utterly bizarre conversation with a former DOGE employee, but as I listened to more recent episodes I ended up having to make something much more serious. Early and persistent conversation about sexual assault is present, including the details of a specific allegation made against Shermer himself back in 2013.

We also spend quite a bit of time listening to Shermer nod along with Douglas Murray on the necessity of bombing Palestinian children, because seeing Douglas Murray as a reasonable voice on that matter is obviously the most rational centristy thing you can possibly do.

Jack helpfully provided some time codes for those looking to avoid certain topics. You'll find them below. Thanks as always for your support. This one will be up for the full public on Monday morning.

The Intro to Shermer section starts around 13:50

The section dealing with the Fraser interview starts around 24:11

The Nellie Bowles bit begins around 1:04:00

And the Douglas Murray section starts at around 1:31:00