Episode 1 - Sherlock Holmes and The Woman In Green (1945)

I would love to hear you react to the Soviet adaptations of Sherlock Holmes! The episodes are very lovingly and faithfully adapted, but with their own unique flavor.

Oof, not some of my favorite podcasters using 'unc' incorrectly... jk great first episode

Its the Ganja no Monogatari The Heishish The Daidabbutsu All of which are available at your weebiest smoke shop next to a bong shaped like murakami's cowgirl

IIRC Green dresses used to be associated with female sex-havers because it implied lying down in the grass, so a "woman in green" implies promiscuity or even sex work. So if you want to euphemistically refer to that one job that Jack type gentlemen like to stripe up, a "woman in green" is one you might use. She might not even wear green, but if want to slut shame her you can say she is anyway. Also, I hope this podcast will eventually get to the thing about how, up until like two or three years ago, Sherlock Holmes legally had to be rude (only a mild exaggeration.) The pre-waterfall books were out of copywrite, but the post waterfall books were still IP owned by Arthur Conan Doyle's estate, and he was much kinder after the waterfall, so any adaptation where he's too nice implies that it's adapted from the later books. The Henry Cavil version in Netflix's Enola Holmes ran into this issue and the estate sued. The fact that Sherlock Holmes is the most adapted character in the world means that he caused a cultural link between a certain kind of cleverness and rudeness, which is why techbros think that they're geniuses when they're dicks to their employees. Also, because Holmes is one of the most notoriously autistic-coded characters, the influence of the character means that now almost all autistic-coded characters in fiction are these aloof and rude genius types like Sheldon fucking Cooper. It also means that if you wanted autistic (coded) representation in fiction, until fairly recently it was either """eccentric""" detectives or Rain Man. Which is my theory for why a lot of autistic people consider being a cop in their teens/young adulthood (before they realise what coppery actually entails.) Poirot is the much superior autistic-coded detective IMO, because yes he's weird, but in an adorkable gay way instead of a dick way. (If they get to the Benoit Blanc minces his way through mysteries saga, I want it known that as a kindly but particular detective queer detective who Shanghais a mild mannered sidekick who uses their perceived low status to overhear crucial information, it's a movie series about an expy Poirot who acquires an ad hoc expy Ms Marple every time. Ryan Johnson is the true heir to Agatha Christie and I'll duel anyone who deigns to disagree.)

The Woman In Green is the only Rathbone as Holmes I have seen because ... drumroll ... there's a Rifftrax of it, and it is colorized, so she's actually wearing green. Rifftrax has more of the Rathbone/Holmes flicks. I should get around to watching them. I did put another on but it turned out to be Christopher Lee as Holmes not Rathbone. Lee appeared to be having a blast playing the part, by the way

My favorite Holmes/Watson pairing is Michael Caine (Holmes) and Ben Kingsely (Watson) in Without A Clue (1988). They are perfect in the parts and have wonderful chemistry. I saw this movie first-run in a theater, so it’s quite doubtful I could remove the nostalgia goggles about it. Regrettably, the movie also features Jeffrey Jones as Lestrade, and transphobic jokes are a major plot point, so I cannot recommend the film to anybody, nostalgia googles or not. Also, good luck finding a way to watch the movie legally. It can be done, but probably not worth anybody's time given the regrettable parts.

Delightful! I used to watch these old Holmes film with my dad back in the 80s. They would show one each week on BBC2 at 6pm. My dad particularly enjoyed the propaganda/jingoism, especially in the closing monologue. He'd look at me earnestly and say "It's an ill wind that blows across this green and pleasant land, Watson. But it's GOD's own wind!"

I always think it would be funny if Sherlock Holmes had to solve a crime involving astronomers or something and the fact that the Earth revolves around the sun became vitally important to the case. Just for the smug look on Watson's face.

Oh I hope we get some Shirley Holmes. That series was a weird memory I thought I made up until it was referenced in Hbomberguy's video. And Columbo!

First, November Killed Jame Bond, and now she will Trans Sherlock Holmes!

Oh my GOD, that coked-out-of-his-mind time traveling Sherlock Holmes bit fucking destroyed me

There is another podcast with the same name that's a true crimes podcast, and I started listening to it without realizing, and got some fresh horror of hearing a very distressed woman calling 911 about her missing girlfriend.

Imagining this woman in a pearlescent green and purple dress like she's the fucking Praetor Shinzon.

Also- it’s mostly not a detective show, but I think you should watch specifically the first episode of Heaven Official’s Blessing. It’s a Chinese BL anime that opens with the protagonist solving a Ghost Mystery, while also wearing a full Chinese wedding dress. For plot reasons.

You guys have to do a Dr Who episode! So much gender in that show, both the classic and modern versions.

Takeshi Kovach from altered carbon is the most trans detective.

I would love to see you discuss Altered Carbon. It has all the keys points of a Detective Noir. There also a lot of body disphoria. The main character chooses to live in the body of a woman in the start of season 2. I think you will like it.

Sure, I guess I can give November another $7.50 a month.

autism moment: the persian slipper/shoe tobacco is a direct reference to the original ACD stories ✨

Gonna need at least 3 seasons of this and a liveshow when it's warmer

Spy in the Green Hat levels of green in this movie.

6 7 +/- 1

You're gonna do Veronica Mars right?

Love this and love detectives, and very excited for the Disco Elysium episode!

You gotta do The Great Mouse Detective man

You guys laid a perfect Transgender Honey Pot by plugging the Disco Elysium episode at the end of this…

Struck once again that every single fascination I have ever had has, It turns out, been simply a prelude to my trans-ing of my gender

Is that why I loved Harriet The Spy? Can you do Harriet The Spy!?

Loved the episode. Sadly might have to skip the next one since I haven't actually played much of Disco Elysium yet. Can't wait till you all do an episode on Nero Wolfe or Columbo.

That last bit of Holmes tripping out feels like the ultimate evolution of the Sesh Gremlin Q bit from KJB

Makes me think of UNCLE's The Man in the Green Hat where the color of the person's garment also never came up

great pod! hope y'all do Umineko at some point! (imo the most gender detective vn ever made)

i explained this show to a friend and Poker Face was something they mentioned as being relevant to the show

Oh that theme song is primo

I'm only disappointed you didn't mention the time Watson was a robot.

Excited to hear about [checks wikipedia]... Christopher Lee as Sherlock Holmes. The handful of actors who have both performed as both Holmes and Watson. The possibility of a film about Sherlock Holmes that is about 9/11 and not being transgender.

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you'd think with how into Sherlock Holmes, Nancy Drew and the Hardy Boys I was as a kid I would have picked up on the clues about myself earlier. Apparently I'm not alone on that though. Great first episode, looking forward to so much more

any chance u guys might eventually do some weeby detective games? like pheonix wright obvs but mostly i really want to hear alice say the word "danganronpa" :pppp

Disco Elysium means you're open to some media other than film, in which case I would LOVE to hear you talk about any Discworld book with Samuel Comes (i know he's more of an exploration into the hypothetical "good cop", but he does a lot of detective work)

Sherlock's bad trip across the Holmesiverse is killing me

"rifle down one trouser leg, pointed directly at his face so he can kill himself at a moment's notice" audio drop from Heat about being ready to rock and roll at the drop of a hat, but for suicide

With my dying seconds, flipping down all but one of the picture flaps on my game of Guess Who?(tm) to identify my murderer

"Spring Break!" Really got me

30:32 Mia accidentally revealing she's from the timeline where the Pentagon was hit by two planes, while a third grazed the base of one of the towers

So this is the new project 🙂

God, I think you're on to something with this. As a teenage egg, I wore The Hat and I read an endless stream of Poirot mysteries. I think there's still a bit of Philip Marlowe in my gender even now. Can't wait to see where you go with this show.

At the drop of a (tweed) hat (into a crime scene) they're ready to rock and roll (shoot yourself on the face with the rifle secreted in your trouser leg)

:D

*wearing half a dozen tweed caps simultaneously* "Hey now!"