It’s Quiet in NisaTown: Emergency Hotpatch Status for WW v174+
Let me start out by saying I’m sorry with my performance and about this post being so late!!!
Usually when a WW update causes WP to break, a hotpatch is available within a few hours. Sometimes as late as 1-2 days, usually with a status post so my Patreon-only patrons can stay up to date on progress and sometimes with a public post too. This is neither of those times. WW has received extensive overhauls to core systems which will require extensive patches from WP to stay compatible. The patch is going to take some time…
As many have pointed out, I failed you. While I did make several posts on discord in my work in progress channel explaining the situation, I was beyond tardy writing an equivalent Patreon post. The primary reason is that I’m not doing well, and I didn’t know how to communicate that to a larger audience. The much-truncated version is that I’m unsure if my issues are medical or mental at this time, but I’ve been working to put together a team of experts to help me narrow down the cause. Regardless, it’s not an excuse, but it is an explanation as to what’s going on. It’ll be a process to get me back up to 100 percent, and while I’m lining up appointments and going through tests, I am not idle. I’m not waiting on a health expert to figure out a solution and I’m here working on the mod 5 days a week albeit slowly right now.
For those curious, some more information can be found in the WIP channel on my discord. All I want you to know is that I do not view it as an excuse, I’m sorry for how quiet and reserved I’ve been, I’m seeking and getting the support I need so my personal issues will not continue to interfere with my goals.
Now, back to modding.
As mentioned, WP is not currently compatible with the latest releases of WW. Those including and after v174. If you plan to play with the latest versions of WW then please remove my mod but first consider the following:
If you use succubi, then your succubi will become corrupted after removing my mod. This likely means the sim will be deleted when loading into game or they will have missing CC. If they are not deleted then I strongly recommend deleting them manually. Also save your save to a new save (Via the save as button) just to be safe.
If you don’t use succubi then my other mod data should be removed by the normal maxis missing asset cleanup functions. You are safe to remove the mod and continue playing. Keep in mind that you will have to manually re-add traits and things when re-installing the mod unless you plan to use the aforementioned save as function and return to your current save after updating!
Unlike usual, this patch is going to be a bit of a process. Early on I gave an incorrect ETA in some comments based on my experience with previous patches, and I have not given an ETA since because all I can say with time estimates is that I’m working to get it out as soon as possible. While I can’t give an exact ETA (yet, when I get further a long I can), I can let you know my general patching process and where I am in that process.
Wicked Perversions Hotpatch Progress Map:
ETA: Monday, December 19th
Housekeeping: Today's (11/22/2022) patch looks harmless, if you consider removing fun profanity from the gallery harmless! Already decompiled and checked, I don't expect any additional issues from today's patch!
[Decompiling] Decompile the latest WW release and compile a list of changes to the previous version of WW. Done.
[Analyzing Scripts] Go through each script with differences, analyze the changes and create WP code patches accordingly. This is where the lion’s share of patch work is.
[Load Testing] Load into the game with the new version of WW and the hotpatched version of WP. If errors pop up then take a look at the errors and compare them to the WP changelog and WW changelog and create more patches.
[Gameplay Testing] After no errors on load, gameplay test core features of WP to make sure things are still functional and check any problem areas which were noted earlier in the process.
[Iteration Testing] Test the latest WW releases if there have been more patches since the original decompiled version.
[Cherrypick patching] Manually copy the changes over from the hotpatched dev version to the WP release builds using the changelog as reference.
[Release]Release the Patreon Hotpatch. Found here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/wicked-growing-2-80184388 Public release following as soon as Patrons clear the Patreon version, probably a day or so!
[Validating Public Release] Manually copy over the changes from the dev version to the public version of WP while waiting for user bug reports to come in. If they do, address that first and repatch the Patreon version of WP.
[Public Release] Release the Stable Public Hotpatch on LL.
And that has been what I’ve been doing monthly, or every two months for the last 5 or so years. Double to tripple it for Game Updates. It’s a tedious and tiring process, but frequency aside, it’s not as bad as it seems. The lion’s share of the time is spent in step number two, Analyzing scripts. Depending on how well step 2 goes and how thorough I am, steps 3-5 typically proceed relatively quickly. This isn’t a usual situation but usually it only takes half an hour to a few hours. As progress is made, I’ll update the above Progress Map by bolding the stage we are in and adding any appropriate notes and a eta when I feel confident enough too.
I want to thank everyone for their extreme patience and support you have given me. I do not believe forgiveness can be asked for or given, but only found. I’ll only hope you find me worthy of your forgiveness through my actions. Thank you.
Comments (169)
is this now compatible with ww?
yes i believe it has been
In your answer 5 months ago, you said they would update to allow strip club dancers to also engage in prostitution, but are they not updating?
My dude, calm down. I see alllll your comments. Nisa can only do so much. This isn't a request form. If you have legit questions, ask them on discord.
Please add a feature to enable prostitution in strip clubs. Add a feature to allow dancers to engage in prostitution.
You can already do that. Just manually make the dancers 'ladies of the night' and they will work both jobs.
Please add a feature to enable prostitution in strip clubs. Add a feature to allow dancers to engage in prostitution.
Can you do a percing for males please
pls how do i remove that red tat reward thing on my sims?
Go to the tam explorer, settings, beauty settings, there is an option to disable it globally. If you want to remove it from a specific sim then you can also try the 'nisa.removetatts' console command on your active sim.
Im having so many issues, mostly with being forced to find and enter the discord server every time I need an update or something. I can never find it, it turns into a massive hunt and peck mission. WHY? I can update ten mods in the time it takes me to update this one 100% because of the discord server unnecessary issue.
I'm sorry for the confusion, paind and trouble Ichigo! The latest version can be found here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/wicked-growing-2-80184388 But you can send me the LE (i'm assuming one is being generated?) either using a free no-account needed service such as pastebin.com (copy the text in, hit the create a new paste button, send me the resulting URL) or via email with NisaK@protonmail.com (if you chose the email route then please mention it in your reply or DM so I check it asap, I don't check my email daily). Please only keep the latest installed, you don't need to install this version plus previous versions. The latest update has all previous updates included. Lastly, in your opinion what would help you update the mod faster?
this doesn't let me woohoo or anything it just resets my sims
I'm sorry to hear about the trouble. Are you getting any Last Exceptions?
I was wondering if you can add I'm still healing from clint piercing. to sex question or tell the other sim that your healing
Like to automatically refuse sex for a time?
i hope everything is ok with you.! i no longer paly the sims if your mod is not working. and right now it isn't for mec
Oh no Happy! What's going on? Are you getting Last Exceptions? If so then can you please send them to me using a free no account needed service such as pastebin.com (copy the text into the window, hit the 'create a new paste' button then send me the resulting url) or via discord? If neither method works then we can figure out an alternative one via email if that would work for you!
Hey Nisa! Will Turbo's update affect your mod?
Thank you for checknig in jenn! Everything is safe with the latest release!
Hi Nisa, I am getting the following error and I've tried to rollback the game but its still happening: NisaK/utilities/turbo_calls/hybrids/sex_locations' (NisaK.utilities.turbo_calls.hybrids.sex_locations) cannot import name '_get_location_style' from 'wickedwhims.sex.autonomy.interactions.start_auto'
I believe that was from an 'in-progress' build of WW, if you update to the latest version of WW, this should be resolved!
Is there a cheat key to unlock the number of strip staff?
When can I use the strip and prostitution features?
Is the ability to make prostitutes in strip clubs missing?
There is no function to purchase a brothel business over the phone. Can you add a function? Can you purchase a brothel business over the phone?
The npc sim only strips and does not prostitute.
Please add the ability to purchase brothels by phone. Only strip clubs can be purchased. Please accept the request. There is no function to purchase a brothel over the phone. Please add it. This is a volunteer request.
Told to come here to download new post. Cannot find any new updates for May.
There's nothing to DL here?
Scroll down a post.
hey nice where should I post the LEs for your mod?
Thank you for your support Amanda! You can send them to me via copy and pasting them into pastebin.com (no account needed) hit the create a new paste button then send me the link of the resulting page, or over the discord. If neither options work for you then we can figure out another option too!
I hope the experts are able to help you with whatever is going on. My WP modded Sims can take a break so you have the time you need.
Hey Nisa, are there any new features planned for prostitution?
I'm sorry to have kept you waiting Isabel! There's lots I want to do with prostitution, everything on the mod was put on hold more or less while I was sick last year. Now that I've recovered, I'm working hard to get back onto a normal release schedule again. For prostitution there is a lot I want to do. The most significant is a career overhaul, changing the current form of prostitution to a street walker, adding in a more formalized escort career, and potentially securing a collab for something more exciting once I'm confident in my productivity again. In the more near term, I'm working on a new update for strip club integrations with prostitute strippers atm. Once I'm able to get smaller updates released like this one (which should be the near future) I'm hoping to go back to tackling my bigger goals. Don't hesitate if you have any further questions and thank you for all your support!!!
I can't afford the hot fix for wicked perversions and the lovers lab version keeps throwing error messages, is there a place where I can download the updated version?
Hey Liz! Thank you for your support, the latest version can be found here https://www.patreon.com/posts/wicked-growing-2-80184388 but you don't have to give me money to access it. The Patreon and Public version are equivalent at the moment since I've been unwell for so long. I didn't want public players to feel like they were paywalled from hotpatches. You can send me your LE either over discord or using a free no account needed service such as pastebin.com and we can get to the bottom of the error you are getting! If you reply to this message, then please be sure to hit the reply button below else Patreon may not notify me of your response!
I had this problem too, and managed to put an OLDER version in by mistake because I couldn't find the latest one. This thread helped!
where are the downloads? you've got it set up like if you sub to your Patreon you get access to your downloads, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Please either just release the download content publicly or disable the patreon, or make it clear that you do not put downloads here. cmon.
I want to apologize for any inconvenience and misunderstanding caused, and thank you for taking the time to provide your feedback. I'd like to clarify that you can currently find the latest version of the content at https://www.patreon.com/posts/wicked-growing-2-80184388, and both the Public and Patreon versions are currently feature equivalent. I made it that way due to my recent health problems so that people wouldn't feel obligated to support me to access the maintained versions of the mod. I don't feel entitled to anyone's support, but the support I receive on Patreon enables me to focus my time on maintaining the mod and growing my skills to produce better content. If you would still like a refund, please let me know via Direct Messages over Patreon, and I'd be happy to accommodate you. Thank you for your understanding and patience. Please let me know if you have any further questions or concerns.
Where is the download?
I'm sorry for the confusion! You can find the latest here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/wicked-growing-2-80184388 Thank you for your support!
Hi! I keep getting a auto-sex error. It says the sim could not find a spot to do the deed. please help?
A strip club dancer can't be a prostitute even if she uses a cheat key to do prostitution. Make a request for Nisa K.
Hey, I just recently got this mod and I'm still trying to figure out how everything works. Firstly I wanted to let you know you are doing a fantastic job on this mod and I'm really excited to see where this goes in the future, I'm looking forward to seeing more content on both the occult and prostitution branches of the mod. Maybe adding another type of occult like demons or such, or adding a cool new job for prostitutes and maybe they can even get pregnant if they forget to take birth control or use protection. Lots of cool things that can be done and I can't wait to see what you do. Secondly just wondering if you considered an in-game tutorial for how the mod works at this point in time, how to become a succubus, how to set and change occult forms. I think making a small tutorial would be helpful.
Thank you for your support Legends! I'm working on a new escort career at the moment (which is a larger project) and updates to sucucbi. With the expansion dropping next week, i'll be looking very critically at 'science babies' and adding content for the feature. I think you'll be happy with what I have in mind. I haven't considered using the in game tutorial system before but I'll definitely look into it now!
Hi, i already check all my mods, it seems that ur mods causing my sims to not be able to do any interactions with each other. they just froze. im sorry but is there any compability issues i should know when using this mod? please help?
I'm sorry to hear you are experiencing troubles, I'm not aware of a mod combination which would cause this specific issue. Are you getting any Last Exception? If so then can you please send them to me using a free no account needed service such as pastebin.com or over the discord. If you aren't getting any Last Exceptions then I'd be happy to take a closer look with you on the discord.
I'm not sure which mod to download for wicked perversions since I've tried the newest one and it keeps breaking my game.
Hey Brianna! I apologize for the late response. Are you still having difficulties? The latest version can currently be found here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/wicked-emergency-76139826
Do I delete the old one?
You only need the latest file.
Love the mod, everything is working great! quick question? i could not find another place to ask, sorry. >.< is there a way to make a sim undrenched ? i want to make them into an incubus. but it still has the undrenched addiction trait.
Hmmm, do you have basemental drugs installed? When a sim gets addicted to drenched amy, they are given a stat and a trait. After 5 days the stat and the trait should remove itself from the sim automatically.
When I opened my game I was told I needed to download the new version but I don't see a new version. Was this a mistake?
I have the same issue, have you found a solution ?
Sorry but i have to stop my membership because EA say's i'm stealing there game. All good now had to reinstall sims 4. Had to get rid of gshade.
What does that even mean?
Hi Nisa, I hope all is well. My game crashed today. I have the updated WW and Basemental and noticed with Deaderpool help that one of the traits with Perversions is causing the issue, I currently use the i version of your mod.
Hey Kiara! I'm not aware of an issue like this but I'm on the DP discord as well, with their moderators permission you can tag me in (they get worired if you start dming creators on their server out of nowhere sometimes) or dm me directly and I'd be happy to take a look.
hey there nisa hope everthings going smoother currently locked out of my discord wasnt sure if i sent this error through a dm or here but ill send a dm aswell it its easier for you to look at im still debunking myself if its due to a trait change done in game and the amanita being made during that trait loss or if its one of the custom traits like sensually tight clashing with the succuis accult state but these are just my theroies since it was only today i noticed the bug might need a clean save to test it but im trial and erroring this save first " Ver 2.2.6h at Time: Sun Jan 15 17:05:08 2023 on Windows with WW v175.4 and Basemental 7.16.196 on 1.93.129.1030 Traceback (most recent call last): File "E:\\Python3_7_0\\version_vault\\patreon\2_2_6h\NisaK\utilities\hazard_detector.py", line 84, in wrapper File "E:\\Python3_7_0\\version_vault\\patreon\2_2_6h\NisaK\utilities\interactions\buffs.py", line 101, in on_add File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\buffs\buff.py", line 1152, in on_add File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\buffs\buff.py", line 1197, in apply_all_loot_actions File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\interactions\utils\loot.py", line 551, in apply_to_resolver File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\interactions\utils\loot.py", line 548, in apply_to_resolver File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\interactions\utils\loot_basic_op.py", line 303, in apply_to_resolver File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\whims\whim_loot_ops.py", line 90, in _apply_to_subject_and_target File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\whims\whim_loot_ops.py", line 52, in __call__ File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\whims\whims_tracker.py", line 720, in refresh_whims File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\whims\whims_tracker.py", line 1417, in _populate_slots File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\whims\whims_tracker.py", line 1274, in _try_populate_slot_from_whimset File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\whims\whims_tracker.py", line 1354, in _generate_whim_buckets_for_type_and_whimset AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'guid64'
Hey Jo Od! I'm sorry for the late reply! This sort of error is a false positive reported by my mod. Not that there isn't an error, there definitely is, it's just not caused by my mod. This is from an out of date custom whim which never hotpatched for the 1.90 game patch. You have WW up-to-date and WP up-to-date, so it's being caused by something else. Some common culprits to consider: *KawaiiStacie mods, especially Slice of Life. *All Custom Traits by Chingyu, KiaraSims4Mods and other creators. *Out of date custom aspirations *Some custom event mods. *Any other mod which may add or changes whims. If you feel you have checked all of these and still can't find the culprit then you may want to consider trying the 50/50 method: https://www.patreon.com/posts/finding-broken-4-23751034 I'd start with testing a minimal Install (WW, BMD + WP) and then growing your mod folder from there, placing mods in 50 percent of the time, by category if possible. Don't hesitate to reach back out if you need more assistance!
Hi Nisa, I've paid for the succubus tier and downloaded everything I've found for the succubus options and it has not worked at all since i'veg had it and I can't figure out how to get it to work. I've messaged once before but maybe it got lost in some comments. My mods are also not too deep into folders either. I just need help in getting to make succubus sims, thank you so much!
Hey Ashleigh! What specifically seems to not be working? Are you able to see the research occult interaction found on the tam explorer on any in game computer?
i paid for my membership to update my content and i still cant basically showing up like im not a member
I'm sorry for the inconvenience Bellas! What are you having trouble accessing? Is it the discord?
Thank you so much!
When I downloaded this made it changed the color of my notification pops and they are really hard to read. Is there a way to change the color scheme for the notification? Here is a link to the image if you want to see what I mean: https://ibb.co/r4R8Ft9
Hey Robyn! I don't think this is from me! It's likely a broken or out of date UI mod which you have installed. Or alternatively something is breaking on load causing other mods to break too. In which case you should be getting a Last Exception or a few and you def should send them over to me either over discord or via a free no account needed service such as pastebin.com. A few UI mods that may be out of date and could be causing this are listed below: Weerbesu's UI Cheats and More Columns in Cas Traits, careers, aspirations and skills Career and School Mods CC Wrench Hiders and the like thepancake1's Color Slider mod Clean UI, TOOL and BetterBuildBuy Darkmode & PlumFruit Custom Clubs
https://pastebin.com/fR0JgnD0
Thank you for the LE Destiny! I have a few ideas. Before anything else try deleting my mod's custom save data, go into your The Sims 4/saves folder and back up the WickedPereversionsMod folder before deleting it. This will reset my mod's settings to default (which you can then setup how you wish again). If you still get an error then send me the new one. The two errors may be related, but I think that may resolve the second one. The first 'get_fallback_outfit_category' I think may be a maxis one or resulting from having some duplicate mods installed, or some other fuckery. I'm still looking into it. Let me know how wiping my mod's save data goes for you first and send me any new LEs which pop up!
I just got a last except error. Where can I report it?
Hey Destiny! Please send me the Last Exception using a free, no account needed service such as pastebin.com or alternatively over the discord. I look forward to seeing it!
I just added this to my game and every single household has disappeared. I have the updated WW. Even taken all my mods out and all my households and progress is gone.
I am having the same issue. I actually uninstalled all my mods and still had this issue. However, it didn't happen when I started a new game or if I restored to an older version. Not sure what is going on.
The file is in the previous post (dated December 19)
same no downlode link , welcome back glad your filling bather !!!!
The link for the newest update for Wicked Perversions is not showing up for me to download :(
Do not worry. It's not up to you. It's just not there yet. :) Nisa still needs some time.
[Cherrypick patching] omgomgogoggggggg! My sim-friends Esther Springer and Yuki Usagi are coming home at last. Bless your efforts Nisa, so appreciated. Still, no hurry though, take care of you first!
I love you so much Nisa. Regardless what's going to happen but I'm letting you know that you're my fav modder of all time and I love you. Get well soon :)) <3
Finally got myself a gaming laptop! Was never able to play because of all the updates breaking everything and no time to keep updating all my mods. So excited that I will finally be able to use WP and enjoy it. I am patient and your health is more important. This will give me time to set everything up too ;-) Many blessings!
And now it's in Iteration Testing! Color me happy!
Hello dear Nisa. :) As a warning: I'm writing with google translator right now because my English is really not good enough for a conversation. So sorry if it sounds strange. I'm new here. :) I love your wicked perversions. I had a family whose bank balance was very low. I let two of the grown children become prostitutes. In addition, the house property on... um... I don't remember, but then they called and they also did escort jobs. After two weeks, my family simply had 160,000 Simoleons in their account. Suddenly, after an update from Sims 4, the message always came up on the top right that it was no longer up to date, but it still worked. But at some point the message annoyed me, so I got a more recent version, which was obviously not quite up-to-date either. After that I couldn't get into any more families, so I thought I'd go back to the old version, but that didn't work either. So I was mourning the loss of this mod and since you haven't been around for so long I thought that was the end of the mod. Now I found out that you are not feeling well and I am really sorry. Actually, I just wanted to say to them, take your time, relax. We'll be there later. :) Greetings Miria
Thank you for your support Finja! Google translate has come a long way! Thank you for sharing your story! I haven't been doing well health wise but I've gotten the help this month to get better, It means a lot to have been supported through this tough time! A Hotfix coming out soon so your red light house should be back up and running soon!!! Don't hesitate if you have any questions or concerns!
oh my oh my it changed. Look everybody its on gameplay testing! I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm just so excited!
It's getting closer, I'm knocking out more and more bugs now that I can get it to load in game! There should be some news soon!
Take care Nisa, behind you 100%.
As a person with chronic illnesses, you have my full support. I know how terrible it is and how it saps your will and energy. Wishing you only the best!
I'm sorry to hear you are struggling as well Molly! Finding the right help and waiting on test results can be frustrating, but I'm remaining hopeful that I can get a handle on what's going on with me. I don't know if it's possible, but I'm sending some of my hope back your way!
You are fine. :) Take your time. We are here for you! Its always worth the wait.
Thank you Silly! While I am tired, I'm more tired of waiting, I hope to be releasing more progress on the mod soon!
Good Luck on your appt ❤
I never considered that some may have been ghosted or burnt in the past. I appreciate the perspective and understand the need for an explanation to your supporters. I think I responded strongly to the comment that you failed. That triggers me when hurtful things are said to a person who is working things out. I have supported you for so long I feel as though you are a cyber cousin I am ready to protect.
I hate the fact that you feel the need to explain details of what is going on. Whoever said you have failed, is selfish as fk and if they don't want to wait, good riddance as far as I am concerned. However I realize this is your livelihood, so I'm not trying to send those guilty away. I love your work and it has been years now that I have supported you, when you work AND WHEN YOU DON'T, so while we clients get to play when we want or walk away and take breaks when life interferes, I understand you do not. you work around the clock and you are so good that if everyone but us diehards are the only ones who stick it out, and support you it will be aright, cause when ready, folks will find you again. Your well being and mental/physical health is not worth the sacrifice of killing yourself over a deadline. (in any line of work) I have watched you try to sneak a few wellness days off, but you cant piecemeal "burnout" or rest. Take your time please, do what you need to do to sustain yourself, WITHOUT GUILT. sheesh what is wrong with some people. lollll be well dear.
Everything Luci said!
I haven't played the game since this mod quit working. That is the best thing that happened to me this year. i have lost interest and now doing other things. I wish you the best
Taking care of yourself is the most important thing. We'll be here when you get back. <3
Take care of you. That's #1. Hope you feel better soon, the mod will get done when it gets done. Sending happy thoughts.
I'm Having Trouble applying lotion on other sim
mod stuff aside i was just getting worried about your wellbeing so i am glad to know you're still with us and i hope everything is alright! take your time be good to you and dont listen to anyone who complains or criticizes!!
Thank you simulationenjoyer! People definitely have the right to criticize (especially current/former patrons), it also makes kind words left by patrons like you all the more meaningful. In my mind I'm scared to check my messages because they are filled with all the worst voices in my head, it's a relief that when I do check them, I find mostly overwhelming amounts of empathy and support!
After reading everything here, I decided to become a supporter again. May you strike a healthy balance in your self-care and your hard work. You owe us nothing that you haven't already delivered ten-fold. You have many fans and the real ones will still be here when the dust settles. <3
Thank you for your support vdsblkrzr (I don't even know how to pronounce this!)! I'm very blessed to have so many supportive fans. I have my first doctor appointment coming up this week. I want nothing more than to be around for a long time delivering pervy game content, thank you for helping me through this hard time.
Hey boo. I'm sorry you're getting crap about not updating. Life happens. I'm patient. Keep up the good work. There will always be someone unhappy.
It's worth repeating that the prozzy feature works fine, and is probably what 90% of the supporters care about most. Maybe that should be made more clear here on Nisa's page and on TurboDriver's Patch "warnings" A bit of drama over not much...There is a self-absorbtion pandemic brought on by social media.. so take it all with a grain of salt.
Can I use Wicked Perversions with the newest Sims patch and newest version of Wicked Whims? I only use the prostitution functions (I dont care about succubi). Edit: I keep on supporting you, Nisa <3 Btw: Is it possible that you get some help from Turbodriver to fix your mod? I dont know if modders work together or not.
So having seen it, yes Turbodriver sometimes helps other modders for the development of their mods, when these are concerned with WW or, perhaps when a mod uses one of the lines of code used by WW (for avoid conflict). As for WP and the new sims patch, I can't comment on everything, but prostitution works, lost eden and piercing work. The rest, I don't know. And the current version works with WW v173.2.
Take good care! I will continue supporting and wish you the best on your wellness journey
I was just coming back to Sims 4 and updating everything for the past day. I just found the culprit which was this mod and found this post. No worries Nisa, my dear! You've got my support now and in the future! Sending my love to you! <3 Take your time and focus on yourself! We'll be here!
none of the verisons of ww works for me with current version of wp and im okay with that and im going to still continue to support thank you nisa k stay well
This is an extremely challenging time for us all. I understand entirely and plan to continue support to bring you closer to the finish line. I am very grateful to you for investing so much into the modding community and being a pioneer in the game. You bring so many people joy, and we want you to feel good about the work and the process. Take all the time you need to recenter and stay healthy. Hugs(if that's your thing), and best of luck.
Thank you Flo!
I support at Turbodriver and Nisa K and am currently playing both mods in the previous version (compared to the current WW). It wouldn't occur to me to stop supporting one or the other because the latest version isn't compatible. The interest of a supporter is to do so in the most difficult moments. If we stop funding when things are going badly then it means that we have ulterior motives that have nothing to do with the mod. Previous versions of WW and WP still work together, and that alone is enough to continue supporting them.
Hi could you tell me what is the last version of WW that still supports nisas?
My girls still have orgasms Don't worry! take your time
So I literally just became a patron in order to post a comment to this thread. For those of you patrons unhappy with the turnaround time, I recommend quietly cancelling your subscriptions and not making Nisa K. feel worse than they (sorry, unaware of your pronouns) already do. The honesty shared in this post takes a lot of courage, and it serves as a reminder for us all to be more understanding and gracious. For those of you patrons on the fence, perhaps consider the quality of content being created by Nisa K. and the time and effort required to pull it off successfully. It is easier to associate cost with a tangible product, but there is also value in the work occurring behind the scenes, as well as worth in the person doing the work. Just my two cents. Nisa - I hope you feel better soon, and good luck with your latest project!
So, we can suspend the subscription and the payment? If there is nothing produced, there is nothing to support.
That would be up to you. I want to be very careful about telling people how to spend money as lines can be crossed there really easily and things can become manipulative. I'll understand if you, as others have already, chose to drop support and won't take it personally. I've said many times that I'm not owed the support of my Patrons, but I am very grateful for it. I've stated what's going on and why things are slow at the moment. If you chose to support me through this time or not, it is solely up to you and it would be improper for me to tell you what to do. I want to thank you for all the support you've shown me up until now. If you do drop support, I hope you'll find me worthy of receiving it in the future.
When will there be an update?
I know as frustrated as some of us are, you must be even more frustrated! I hope your recovery goes well. As a side note - would you be willing to make the call girl aspect of the mod a standalone mod/add on for WP? Not sure if that's possible, but I think that could be helpful in the future. IK Slice of Life switched to that format and it's a lot easier when update season comes around.
I think it's something that's going to be a must going forward. If I didn't run into my health issues, I would have already split the mod up by now. It's going to be a big task and I'm going to have to approach it mindfully. A lot of my features interconnect under the hood so I think I'd have to consider something like a framework core mod which is just the backbone then modules for features. Like a prostitution module, a succubus module, a wtf (misc.) module and so forth. I also have to consider how some of these modules may interact with each other and if I want to remove features if the player doesn't have another module present. Like easy example, I have succubi and wish to add succubi pregnancies in the future. I've talked about this at some length on the discord but the current plan is to have them reproduce with DoEH sims. DoEH sims would probably be in the WTF module, succubi in the succubi module. So if players just have the framework core mod installed and the succubi module then they would have to have reproduction blocked. I think this is okay in such cut and dry circumstances but it may get a little messy with some other things I'm planning. Like adding sim stories (think of like peeping tom in WW but a bit more dynamic) which, speaking of succubi, will likely be required for the transformation quest. That's a lot of typing. Anyways, I think splitting it up is the way to go. Wicked Succubi should be the easiest to manage this split since they were coded with one in mind. But others. There's questions. It may be better to recode some things from the ground up. I have a poll written on this topic that I'm still considering publishing to see how people feel. If they would rather see the split happen slower with overhauls which may mean maintaining this 'legacy' version of WP while things are being overhauled into separate packages or faster with the understanding that I'm going to overhaul things going forward anyways. It may be something I have to decide for myself. The overhaul route is tempting but it would be a bit like rebooting the mod. Gosh and I'm still typing! There's a lot ot think about, both technically, practically, and where I want to go in the future.
i will noy plsy the game till you fix it... so am i'm being charged to wait?
If you really can't wait I'm pretty sure you can cancel your subscription until it's back up and running so you're not charged for December. There is also an option when you take the exit survey on why you're leaving with the option of "did not receive benefits" or something of that nature. If you're rly that bothered about paying, maybe privately msg Nisa to see what she can do. I understand that people were unhappy because we weren't granted transparency (not everyone is on discord) about what was going on. But we now have an update. Nisa has been kind enough to share personal information about her life and what's causing the delays. She's also given a very thorough explanation of the issues she's facing with this latest update. We are patrons, not her bosses. She's made the effort to update us, and hopefully will continue to be. I'm sure showing her kindness and compassion will go a long way towards recovery, rather than snippy comments.
I am still on the compatible version of WW although I have downloaded the new versions. I can wait. I don't use all the features of your great mod but I love it so I can wait until it is ready. No worries I know it's gonna be fire!
Thank You we appreciate your hard work! I love this mod. I can wait till you are ready.
You are being way to hard on yourself. Your work speaks for itself and is greatly appreciated and enjoyed by many. Your health comes first, always. Take care of yourself and work when you are able or want to. As someone new to your work, it has revived the game for me and made it lot of fun. Thank you for the update and looking forward for more. <3
Welcome to my Patreon! I'm sorry you joined at such a low point but hopefully that will make seeing the peak all that more rewarding! Thank you for your, and others support during this time!!!
Your health absolutely comes first. While I hate to play without your wonderful work, your well-being is always going to come before some game I like to play. Please do whatever you need to do, and know we'll still be here when you're feeling more like yourself!
I'll continue to wait for the update, I'm in no hurry, your health and wellbeing comes first and foremost. I will not update wicked whims until your mod is compatible with it.
Your work is always worth the wait, Nisa. Please take all the time you need to focus on yourself!
Thank you for your kind words Lexi!!!
Your work has added huge value to this game, and I'm grateful for every improvement you make, whenever it comes. You are one of my modding heroes, deserve high praise, and deserve to take the time you need or want without complaints from anyone :)
Me too, thanks for everything you're great about the MOD. Health always comes first, we all understand that.
I love your mod and it is ok to wait until you have it ready...take care of yourself first as always. We will be here when you have it done. hugs and no worries
Thanks Nisa! Take care of yourself!
I really wish you luck on everything. I know how medical and mental issues can be tough to navigate and communicate through. I love your mod so much so as long as you still want to update it, I will be here.
I'm just glad to be able to say "Welcome back." Let us know if we can do anything to help out.
The most important thing is that you get better! Shame on anyone making you feel bad about taking care of yourself first, the mod can wait- the game will still be here. I hope that your doctors are able to figure out the issues with your health sooner rather than later! Thank you for taking the time and energy to come on here and update us, as well as continuing to work on the mod. Take care of yourself!
Thank you so much for the update Nisa. I’ve been using your mod for the last few months and just joined your patreon recently and I’m happy to be able to support your work. I’m so glad you’re taking care of yourself. Everything else will fall into place. Your mental/physical well-being has to be number one.
People need to understand that making mods require some time and patients. Also, that modders are human too, they are not robots without any emotions. Nisa just take your time and remember your health comes first.
I hope you'll be around to lead your community for a long time, but that won't happen if you don't take care of yourself first.
All you can do is your best. Your true and loyal followers understand. Just hang in there... we are just lucky to have you.... don't feel rushed and release it before it's ready... (that would be even worse) and guess what - WW works w/o WP, so I really don't understand the impatience and entitlement people are showing you. You are amazing.
Thank you for your Kind Words Barbara! People tell me I have a unique and creative perverted way of viewing the world, maybe it's time I listen! Still, I totally understand the frustration people are experiencing. I play with mods in all my games, and totally understand how frustrating it can be to wait for your favorite creators to update!
Get yourself taken care of first. We are customer yes but in order to best serve us you need to serve yourself, if you need to take a week off to get your stuff set up due so. Your health needs to be your main priority. period.
Nisa don't stress just get the update to us when you can.
Nisa it is not a big deal you did not fail us at all we as fans will continue too support you as we are a very patient and understanding group health comes first before anything else we will be here waiting for you when your able too return we are not going anywhere I am very excited for the new content update cannot wait :) I hope you feel better soon
Sometimes with art- and programming, as well- when our old methods of working and coping no longer work as well, it's a heads up to recognize change. I can certainly see that with your mod, which has grown in complexity with time, as features get added. So...maybe think a bit outside the box, and use the situation as an opportunity to prune what you no longer want to work on. I have lost track of the number of posts who just want you to fix very specific additions ("prostitution isn't working in my game!"). So...maybe you should just add back in basic functionality and grow it again. A hard prune, that -maybe temporarily- takes out the parts that looked like fun and added value at the time but maaaybe are a PITA to maintain. I know that when Turbo said several months back that they were redoing WW, and then in September had the "experimental" version (that is now the new WW)...that redoing and pruning out deadwood is a pain, but so is maintaining a bunch of Frankensteined code. I suspect that part of the problem is that envisioning what would be neat to play with, and maintaining your mod are two separate skills. As far as personal advice...loving and accepting yourself the way you are- is IT. If self loathing led to (admittedly superficial) happiness and/or change, we'd all be tall thin toned supermodels with great hair and Einstein's brain.
Thanks Joni! You nailed the third issue that I haven't even publicly spoken about. I know how to do just about every feature in my mod better than I did when I did it the first, second, or maybe 4th time around when speaking about prostitution. If I wasn't having health problems at the moment then I'd be seriously considering a soft reboot of the mod where I recode it from the bottom up for better features (like an escort career for prostitution as well as a more freelance prostitution job like we have now) and easier maintenance (which would include breaking the mod into a few mods in all likelihood) . If it weren't for my current health concerns then I'd be working on such an overhaul already. A WP 2.0. Still, before then I have some features that need to make it over to the current version. I'm glad I'm not the only one having these 'crazy' ideas. I've talked to a few people about it privately and I've gotten all kindz of responses. Ultimately the choice is up to me, and I'm leaning towards it being a good idea. Like you said, lots of people only engage with a certain feature of the mod, and other parts of the mod are easier to maintain than others. For example, prostitution is one of the easiest things to maintain while Succubi are one of the hardest. So Prostitution could be patched pretty quickly even in the worst case scenario, and that would keep most people happy. Furthermore, if I'm smart about creating a framework mod, I may not have to patch every mod every time WW or the game updates.
Take care, Nisa. I hope you feel better soon. The mod update can wait, especially since WW 173.2 still works fine and I hope that Turbo will keep it compatible with future updates until the mods depending on WW have been updated.
Hopefully, that won't be necessary to consider. I'll continue working to get the hotpatch out asap!
Thank you for the update. I appreciate all you do. Take your time, care for yourself, and remember it's only a game and a pastime. Your health and mental well being is far more important.
Look after yourself Nisa. That must be your current priority. We can manage perfectly well with what we've got in the mean time. And there is no need to talk of "forgiveness" as there is nothing to forgive. Take care and all the best to you!
Your health comes first! Please take care of yourself, we can wait
Thank you Nisa!
I agree with all the posts. I wish you well and hope your health worries are solved soon. You have my full support. Best wishes
Nisa, you have failed no one. Please don't apologise for prioritising yourself and your own wellbeing. You're wellbeing is the most important thing. I have been putting off the new WW until you have had a moment to update WP, and I'm happy with that, as it still gives me the best of both worlds. :o) Take whatever time you need, and know that we all support you, no matter what. We have all been in your position at some point, so we all understand. Take care. xoxo
Please know you haven't failed us at all. Sometimes life happens in ways we didn’t expect or want. Please just take care of yourself. Your health is far more important. And I truly hope you can get to the bottom of what ails you. Having just come to the end of a medical mystery journey myself, I’m especially aware of how much it sucks not knowing what’s going on with your body. Take care.
Thank you, I'm surprised with how many of my fans empathize and have gone or are going through something at least tangently familiar. maybe it's something in the water..... I'm kidding Patreon, no conspiracy theories here! plz no cancel!!!
You're physical and mental health is more important than anything! I hope you get well soon and take some time to practice self care xx
It's difficult to give advice to somebody who's struggling. As far as i understood from what i've read in discord and here i believe there's some advice i can give: Leave the Merry Go Round in your thinking. You are a human being like us all. Everybody who ever had to struggle with himself knows what you have to suffer with. You are worth it. You build up great fun and pleasure to a lot of people. If some don't have the patience to wait and let you do your work the way you can do, maybe they should think more about what they are doing. I don't know how you are working. I don't know if there's a team to help you. I just hope for the future that you can find a way to stay healthy and working and find a way to live happy again. Try to catch some of the good energy your supporters send you every day. The game is running with the old ww as good as it should be and the new ww has to wait for you to make it even better, not the other way around. It's you sitting in the center of my sims 4 world, nobody else. You're great.
Thank you Peter! I'm feeling hopeful. I have an idea of what it is if it's medical or and I have an idea of what it could be if it's mental. If it's medical, I'm seeing the doctors now who will sus it out and help me get back on track. If it's mental, then I've gone through mental health before and I can do so again! While I'm mostly with-holding too many details publicly because of my rather reserved and quiet personality, I'm also doing it because I don't want to burden you guys with helping me figure out a solution. The support you guys give me is more than enough to hire experts to get all up in my life and help me figure this out. I'm not happy with where I am, but I'm hopeful that I can make it through whatever it is.
Health comes first! Please take care of yourself 🥺 thank you so so much for your hard work!!! Proud you bestie 💅🏼 but seriously, please rest you deserve it
It's okay Nisa.. I know you won't abandon us.. I myself felt the pressure you might have being going through.. probably some batshit empathy thing I suppose.. I was looking forward to finally get an update from you and today's the day!! THANK YOUUU!!! ♥ Hope you'll take care of yourself too.. we appreciate your works :). Hope you get well soon.. thanks for telling us the situations you're having.
take time to rest , we will wait for update ,your health comes first
I don’t know who has pointed out that you failed us, Nisa, but you certainly have not! Please do not ever think that. We all love your work, and should support you. You have your own life outside of modding, everyone should knows and understand and respect that… I’ve loved your work ever since i got into sims, and continue to. I would rather not be able to play the sims until your mod is updated and know you are looking after your own mental and physical health… then get all mad you haven’t updated or posted within a specific time frame thereby hindering some’s play ability. And as someone who struggles with their own physical and mental health daily, I know that nailing it down can be ridiculously hard to do, to go through many doctors til find the cause of what’s ailing you and then to then trial treatments to find one that works before finding the new routine that is best going forward… is so stressful. So don’t you worry about anything else, please look after yourself and focus on getting you back to as close to 100% as possible! Knowing you’re doing that and looking after your health, is more than enough reason for me, and I’m sure others that love your work, to be happy to wait as long as is needed for the patch or updates Xoxo (edit: sorry that was far longer than I realised! X””D)
Thank you for the kind words Keira! It's taking much longer to put together the right team than I hoped. I'm not really sure what's wrong with my health it could really be mental, medical or the most fun option, both! When I first had symptoms a couple of months ago I assumed it was ja combination of mental, lifestyle choices (like diet, exercise, vitamins, etc). I hoped I could figure out the solution myself and power through. The longer I go on, I'm not so sure. Anyways, I started to look for therapist about a month ago and was reminded that due diligence is to rule out medical first, so that's the process I'm going through. I'm very grateful that I still have enough energy to work on the mod everyday even though I'm not going as fast as I had hoped or with the same energy levels as I have had previously. And I'm even more grateful that I have the support of my fans during this hard time! Thank you.
You are so appreciated! Take the time you need and thank you for the update 🤍