JD Vance
The Vice President of the United States and his wife Usha are expecting their fourth baby, setting an apparent example for their fellow natalists. But just how intertwined is JD Vance with the natalist movement overall and what does it have to do with Usha’s new podcast about children’s books? This week, June and Josh dig into JD Vance’s history with conservatism and Catholicism to try to figure it out.
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EPISODE ART: JD Vance in a press photo by Niall Carson for Getty Images. Born in Middletown, Ohio, Vance graduated from Ohio State University and Yale Law School, eventually working under Peter Thiel at Mithril Capital. After being elected to the United States Senate in 2022, Vance was selected by Donald Trump to serve as his running mate for the 2024 presidential election.
AUDIO CLIPS:
18:51 – Donald Trump reading from 2 Corinthians as part of the America Reads the Bible special event
24:51 – JD Vance referring to Democratic opposition as "childless cat ladies"
59:39 – Usha Vance reading The Tale of Peter Rabbit by Beatrix Potter for her podcast Storytime with the Second Lady
SOURCES:
What have I done? I forced my kid to listen to Usha Vance’s podcast - now she’s a fan
JD Vance Repeats ‘Anti-Family’ Criticism of Democrats on Sunday Morning News Show Tour
Baby Bonuses and Motherhood Medals: Why We Shouldn’t Trust the Pronatalist Movement
Trump May Soon Offer a Motherhood Medal, an Idea Popularized in Nazi Germany
Republicans Are Right: One Party Is ‘Anti-Family and Anti-Kid’
Usha Vance and JD Vance, Pronatalism’s Poster Couple, Are Having a 4th Kid
Mayor Mamdani and Governor Hochul Announce First Four Communities to Receive Free 2-K Seats
With Defense of ICE, JD Vance Clarifies His Next Target: You
J.D. Vance Used to Be an Atheist. What He Believes Now Is Telling.
5% of People Detained By ICE Have Violent Convictions, 73% No Convictions
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Comments (12)
The motherhood medals in the USSR were a part of the same demographic policy that forbade abortion for non-medical reasons during 36-55'. But they themselves are much less weird when you put them into the context of them being instituted in 44' and the sheer loss of life that happened during the war and the fact that they were tied not to birth, but to parenting in general and the kids one adopted were also counted. Which made sense considering the number of orphans after the war
CPAC has had a Hungary edition since 2022 and the mutual admiration goes back even further. https://harpers.org/archive/2019/08/the-call-of-the-drums-hungarian-far-right/ Fidesz is also super corrupt, so it's really not surprising that there was in-kind and financial support for the event and/or group.
Vance is actually visiting my city Thursday in a show of support for Susan Collins. Makes me wanna throw up.
"GDQ if it was evil" Gospel Done Quick, is that anything
Usha may well have voted Democrat in the past, but it’s wrong to assume all Indian immigrants would be progressive or left leaning. She’s from an upper middle class background, it’s likely her family would support Modi and the BJP.
Speaking of child's education content in YouTube, all of Reading Rainbow is on YouTube for free and I think more parents should be told that.
my dream has always been to get a gold in baby curling
j & j: listening to y’all talk about Usha’s contradictions, politics v. her Indian background: she & JD were apparently little disciples of the Tiger Mom lady at Yale. yeah, the one who wrote that book way back whenever. She ascended within the right wing sphere- check out the way she presented her daughter to Gorsuch 🤢
yeah amy chua is a nasty piece of work. i (josh) was thinking about raising her in the context of the vances' time at yale law but didn't have enough additional info to be useful
My maternal grandfather was ostensibly raised Catholic but avoided going to church and didn't really practice a good chunk of his adult life. My mother told me my grandmother used to take her and her brothers (my uncles) to church without him. It wasn't until they were adults that he had this pivot back and became what I call "born again" Catholic. After my grandmother passed away from ovarian cancer 20 years ago he just slid further and further into his conservative, fascist beliefs and used the Catholic faith as an excuse, even when my sister and I went to Catholic school for 11 years and could school him on a lot of Jesus' teachings and Catholic Canon to the opposite of a lot of the hateful things he was saying. (I'm not defending the evil the Church has done over the years obviously or its shitty politics - I'm talking mostly about the core Christian tenets of God's love and forgiveness and the Church's general pro-science, curiosity, and general respect of other views of the world). He died before Pope Leo took over but he would have LOATHED him.
I have a feeling JD often looks in the mirror and feels he was Ill Conceived
Josh, I am so Happy to hear you play Marathon! It has stolen my heart (and wallet and all the items in my backpack). Welcome to the Lose Everything Factory 😀
