Just Tax Them.
[Very Early Access]
Hello Patrons,
Here is the first of a several longer videos we've been producing while we're away from YouTube. "Just tax them" is a popular rallying cry when talking about mining companies. But just how oversimplified is that solution? How possible is it to tax them more?
This video takes a look back through history of politicians who tried to take on the mining industry. There are probably more than you thought and as you can imagine, it didn't work out too well for them.
We think you're going to like this one so we're keen to hear what you think. We'll be back on Youtube in a couple of weeks, we're trying to get some big projects done in the meantime. There's plenty more to look forward to early on Patreon so stay tuned!
Thanks for the support,
The FJ Crew
Comments (26)
I will push back on the point about the last QLD election. Youth crime and crime is up in QLD, but only in cetain outer suburbs like Cairns and Townsville. So while total crime rates are down the regions felt ignored by the major party who is in charge.
Indeed certain suburbs were being smashed by ~700 serious repeat offenders under 18yo - and Labor took action to allow the police to start holding them in custody to prevent further offences for the sake of communities impacted + reallocated funding for juvenile corrective services for the sake of the minors going through rehabilitation... Problem was being dealt with by QLD Labor and yet the press distorted this problem into either a "crime wave sweeping the WHOLE STATE" (that the government is ignoring/failing to respond to) or a "war against children" (that locks children up instead of rehabilitate). There was no legitimate reason to vote QLD Labor out because of crime... the press convinced the population there was by running a campaign of sensationalist fearmongering that relied on cherry-picked crime data, some atrocious propaganda by omission and of course, daily footage of carjackings...
So, what you are saying is, Labor should break up the Big 4 Banks, force an interest rate halving, freeze rents at 50% of current rates for 5 years, break up ColesWorth, Royal Commission into Murdoch then break up the media too, and the big 4 consultancies, nationalise all the mines and gas/oil obviously, similarly remove all government subsidised private healthcare and privately run government owned hospitals, pull all funding from Private Schools (including Christian/Catholic), pick a bunch of fights with big tech of course, eliminate all negative gearing and housing subsidies, leave AUKUS and kick out all the US bases, set fixed prices for all building work until housing targets are met, ban skilled migrants - refugees only, quadruple the petrol and booze excise taxes (replace WET with normal excise), add a wealth tax, and of course lob in an inheritance tax? Once they have done all that they will surely have no enemies and it will all be smooth sailing in a beautiful paradise presumably with Adam Bandt as Deputy PM in a coalition of love.
It will make sure their primary vote dips below 20%!
Great work like usual team.
Brilliant video! Love it and the nuance it contains. Will share it far and wide when released 👍
Good video, although not sure if it's a good characterisation of think tanks generally that advocate for increased taxation of the resources sector. Sure opportunistic and naïve independents will blame the government for not pursuing this, and say they will endorse such policies without needing to contend against the counter lobbying (since a major LNP govt makes them redundant). However the think tanks themselves generally only look at and speak to things from the economic policy dimension rather than the political economy dimension. I don't see this as deliberate dishonesty, rather they see their focus is to educate the public in understanding that governments can and should take a greater share of natural resource profits (usually while remaining non-partisan). Their theory of change is: educate public => public supports and demands increased resource taxation, and recognises industry propaganda => government responds with policy, and resource propaganda fails due to public education. Now as pointed out here, their theory of change could be flawed. Perhaps rather than educating the public that taxing the resources sector is good and blaming government for not doing it, instead they should educate the public on how the resources sector controls politics and gets away with low taxes, and blame the resources sector rather than the government. But as you point out, the problem again isn't merely "the resources sector" or "the government" but also that the Liberal party throughout most of history has expediently done a deal with the resources devil to trade off the public's resources in return for their backing. Non-partisan think tanks by definition cannot address what has largely become a partisan issue. At best they can wage a campaign against the resources sector, but to do that would require a shift in diagnosing the political problem and also the theory of change. The current approach of blaming politicians and governments who side with the resources sector is clearly fraught and misunderstands the issue.
Just had a second listen…. Hi, clean tech manufacturing startup bro here, also a Labor and union member. I was even involved in ideating one of the pillars of FMIA, the production tax credits. I fully intend the workforces I’m involved with to be unionised, I’ve had meetings with AMWU about setting up MOUs to that extent. With all that said, please stop going after the Teals/independents, we need them on side, they’re more likely to support money making enterprises as opposed to virtue signalling like the Greens or protecting legacy interests like the Lib/Nats.
Hey Comrade ( also AMWU) problem with not attacking teals and Greens is that they are attacking Labor. Most of them a Liberals that couldn't move in there party because they are women. I wouldn't believe them for a second. We need the primary vote if not that we need the second preference, teals aren't directing preference to us that lump is in with them nationals and coalition.
This might be one of the best, heh... resources, you've provided Jordies and team!
Fuck yes Jordan Crue! Great video. Now we just need to figure out how to hack the video feed of big screens around the countries sporting venues so that we can have this playing 24/7 until it's subsequently taken down lol.
Unfortunately people like Conrad barely want to say anything of substance, just make people upset about things. And apparently jordies does jokes all the way through, I can't see many past the first few minutes. Just use of tone and expression. Yeah. Totally a shill pointing out facts.
Cant wait to go after duttons Tick Tocks and hammer that cunt!
Far-king excellent video. Absolutely excellent.
At the risk of repeating myself, Holmes a Court and his crew of billionaires, one or two of which I know, are on our side. That side being advocates of new mines that will attract production tax credits, to their benefit sure, but to get the credits you need to pay tax in Australia. Some is better than none, which is your point Jordies. The Teals are wets, so climate 200 doesn’t like to tell them what to do, the only expectation is to give more air time to our side’s lobbyists, many of which are Labor members, including myself, former Labor staff, or former MPs. Unfortunately that doesn’t mean the legacy lobbyists get no meetings. As long as the Teals don’t challenge Labor seats, stop attacking them. As soon as they do, because they will eventually, cut loose, I know I will.
You've not listened very well to the video or looked at how the teals vote then? Yes the enemies of LNP could be our friends, but it's only could.
Great video, very informative!
I know that in posting this I'm just falling for the bait of it, but did y'all see the BadEmpenada video? It's addressed to friendlyhordies/co. I haven't actually watched it (he has some fucked vibes) but it does seem like it's meant to be a constructive criticism video. Just putting it out there, hell maybe even do a little recording of Jordan watching it for us Patrons
It's not worth it. It's just fun to use jordies name for the whingers to increase views. Same as adu. BE doesn't seem to actually do anything for society in reality. And he never liked Jordans comedy, he never makes jokes and just seems to troll. Same as Adu, who sounds like an 18 year old who just read Marx.
You took the words right out of my out when you said you really like the shape of John Gortons face
I wouldn't be opposed to the government acting like a communist regime, have the military shut down the mines of those who aren't paying their tax, send the cops into the medias to stop them reporting lies... Have them pay tax too.
A hard dose of reality. Exactly what Australians need.
Two questions/points... 1. Is social media ever to be more influential than msm? Surely we are in a different media paradigm today than 2010 where msm held far greater power (trends: friendlyjordies being influential, trump calling out fake news, general hatred towards commercial media)? I understand that the general narrative is still constructed by the msm but at what point is that overtaken? 2. As boomers die out, the predominant voting cohorts will be age groups with large numbers of renters and people without "skin I'm the game", who hold economically "leftist" opinions. At some point the scales tip against the status quo to where taxing mining corporations and property investment becomes politically viable. Aren't we just seeing the start of this with dissatisfaction with Labor leading to votes funneling to the crossbench? Does Labor even consider demographic momentum in their forward planning that you know of?
As outlined in the video, for question 2, that trend is kinda already happening, HOWEVER, 1, The party backing the presiding power (the unelected ones with all the money) will just use different unrelated messaging, backed up by the media (who are also backed by those unelected ones with all the money), promising benefits if they can help unelect Labor by any means though their own campaigns as well. And 2, Independents MPs, often backed financially by unelected individuals with loads of money, will also favour the interests of said individuals backing them, while lobbied directly by big money interests due to their individual voting power on the cross bench. Jordan's point is that it's often the cross bench that stymies progress, in spite of campaigning they'll do the opposite. As for msm, certainly it has taken a hit to influence with the push of "New media" but it still has a lot of sway. You have to remember most "New media" may act like news and opinion press, but they aren't journalists, nor fund journalism themselves. MSM and Think tanks like the IPA and Australia Institute, ultimately are the ones to set the narrative of discussion, and provide the context and "facts" behind the narrative that will be discussed by the "New media".
We do have a hostile media, we all need to remember that. The best chance Labor has is your word of mouth!
Good video :)