Remix / Creator Tier (a new option for people wanting to post/sell digital files)
EDIT: As you read thru this please know: To be clear, because some have asked..... this does not stop my existing members or new members on the $5 tier from customizing these and selling them..... this is about posting digital downloads of remixes. If you are currently remixing my files and posting them for digital download, whether free or for a price, that has never been a license option so this new tier simply provides a path for that type of setup. Literally this should have zero negative affect on $5 members and only a positive for them as it adds new options at the same price. Part of this explicitly states that remixes aren't allowed under separate cost structure - I don't want to nickel and dime my members to death or add more levels of cost.
I want to make a pretty detailed post here because transparency is a big part of my brand. Bear with me this is a long one...
First, I want to clarify something because there’s been some confusion lately:
My current $5/month Patreon tier is for printing and selling PHYSICAL prints of my designs. This is laid out as an agreement in the description of the tier before joining.
Because these things remove me from the designs, It is NOT:
permission to redistribute digital files
permission to repost digital files
permission to publicly upload remixes
permission to create derivative ecosystems from my work
permission to create competing merchant tiers or licensing structures
That tier was always intended to support physical sellers — meaning people printing the products themselves and selling the finished physical items.
Lately though, I’ve been getting a TON of requests for remix permissions, especially for themed/logo versions of the cooler holders. Things like:
tool brands
sports teams
gaming themes
fandom versions
custom logos
decorative themes
color-separated variants
etc.
I totally understand that Iand I want to support it and not get in the way, but also not loose complete control of the ecosystem.
There are way more ideas out there than I could ever realistically create myself.
I don’t want to become a bottleneck where every possible version has to come directly from me. I would rather focus my time on:
developing the core platform
improving compatibility
creating new accessories
new textures
new form factors
better printability
better fitment
better engineering
and continuing to expand the overall ecosystem
So after thinking through this a LOT, I’m planning to launch a new Creator Remix Tier later today.
The goal of this tier is to support creators while still protecting the core ecosystem and keeping everything organized, compatible, and sustainable long term.
The important thing though is this:
This remix tier is ONLY for cosmetic remixes.
Things like:
logos
engraving
embossing
textures
artwork
themed versions
decorative body variants
cosmetic customization
What this is NOT for:
functional redesigns
modified lids
modified locking systems
modified handles
modified fitment geometry
modified interfaces
“improved” versions of the core product
competing ecosystems
The reason for that is actually pretty simple:
Once people start changing functionality, I lose control over quality and compatibility.
If somebody uploads a remix with:
a hinge that doesn’t work well
a lid that leaks
a fitment issue
weak geometry
poor compatibility
or some other engineering problem
…people are not going to say:
“that random remix creator made a bad design.”
They’re going to say:
“those animuL67 holders suck.”
That's not good for any of us. At this point I have thousands of people selling these and if I allow functional remixes it could put the product in question and potentially hurt my sellers. I will do everything in my power to support my sellers and maintaining overall control is the best way I can think to do this.
If my products are going to suck, I want it to be MY fault, not because somebody else modified the engineering and put something broken out into the world under the same ecosystem.
A good example is screw-on lids.
I get requests for those constantly and on paper they sound obvious. But in reality, threaded designs introduce all kinds of complications involving:
printer tolerances
filament variation
alignment consistency
Even if designed correctly, different printers and materials can cause the lid to stop in slightly different positions. Suddenly the straw hole is crooked or the logo orientation is off and the whole product starts feeling inconsistent or cheap.
That’s exactly the type of thing I want to reserve for myself to engineer properly instead of opening the floodgates and ending up with twenty incompatible versions floating around.
So the goal here is:
let creators create
let the community get cool themed versions
avoid me becoming a bottleneck
while still keeping the core ecosystem centralized and compatible
Another really important part of this structure is that existing $5 seller tier members will still be able to sell approved remix versions within the ecosystem.
That is intentional.
I do NOT want sellers needing:
my subscription and:
creator A’s merchant tier
creator B’s commercial license
creator C’s Patreon
etc.
That becomes:
fragmented
expensive
confusing
high friction
and honestly just bad for the community overall
The goal is:
one seller membership = access to the ecosystem.
That keeps things:
simple
affordable
scalable
creator friendly
seller friendly
customer friendly
Remix creators still benefit because they:
get exposure
get downloads
get recognition
get to publicly share their work
get access to the existing animuL67 seller ecosystem
can personally sell physical prints of their remixes
But remix creators will NOT be allowed to create:
separate merchant tiers
sublicensing systems
competing commercial ecosystems
layered commercial access structures using my platform
I’m trying to structure this in a way that benefits everybody:
creators
sellers
end users
and the long-term health of the ecosystem itself
I genuinely think this is the healthiest middle ground between:
“no remixes allowed”
and
“complete chaos.”
One final thing:
I am NOT licensing or authorizing third-party trademarks or logos.
If creators choose to create themed/logo versions involving trademarks, that is entirely their own responsibility and done at their own risk. I am not involved in that process and do not want to be associated with policing or authorizing third-party branding usage.
Anyway — this is the direction I’m leaning and I’ll probably launch the new tier later today.
If you have constructive feedback, thoughts, or concerns, let me know. I’m trying very hard to build something that is:
fair
sustainable
creator friendly
seller friendly
low friction
and beneficial for the entire community long term.
I do not want to make a move that exposes some loophole or puts myself or my members at risk or reduces the value of their membership - the opposite actually- this should increase membership value at no extra cost and provide a clear, low friction path for remixes while protecting the overall ecosystem.
EDIT: You would not need this tier for selling modified versions, the existing tier can be used for that as long as those aren't being publicly posted. Example: you create a version that says Mrs. Smith on it, you can print and sell under the $5 tier. But I'm asking that you do not post that for people to download. If you want to do that then its the new tier.
Comments (36)
Donate to my family to survive please the link is in the bayou🙏🙏🙏🫂😭
It would be great when you have the opportunity if you could do all your files in the Google drive. Would be much easier for so.e of us folks to find. Thank you!!
Can we remix your stuff on Makerworld without signing up for the tier for personal use? I don't see any way to enforce paid remixing on Makerworld.
Hi! I know you removed your branded koozies but is there a place for us to access them? I’m interested in the sport theme ones you had. Kinda why I signed up for the membership. Plz lmk if there’s a repository of some sort. Would really appreciate it. Thank you
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1Cr5U9ZkLA/ people are already stealing it and claiming it their own
Unbelievable 🤦♀️
The new tier has been added. I will update it with a badge and an announcement post soon.
Do we have a cooler for tennessee volunteer football ot the titans yet
You are doing the right thing. You need to protect yourself. Question? Are you going to offer your services for hire? For example, if I have a custom design request that is not available on your site, how can we contact you?
Refreshing constantly to see when this option is available 😅
Give me a couple hrs. Not home :)
Thank you for your hard work
So I get with this tier we can post the remix but are you giving permission to sell the file as well? I have never sold a file but make lots of remix's for the community to enjoy but I also don't want to pay $25 a month to give away free files. I really don't want to sell any files either. I'd be willing to go from like $5 to $10 to still be able to remix and give the files out but $25 is a bit steep for my taste.
No the higher tier is if you're making a remix file and selling the .STL or .3MF. If you are making a design like he mentioned above with Mrs. Smith and a smiley face on the cooler and selling the physical print that's the $5 tier
Gotcha
I say do it because there are people selling them in stl form anyway! This way atleast you are making money off of us honest ones anyway! I think you should also have a badge for the next tier as well!
I have been checking and most are being taken down so that's good at least
I think this is a good Idea. There are some many versions and remixes of not only your products but other creators as well, already on MW. I wonder who's who on there half the time. I do add peoples names and whatever photo (logo). for example my sister wanted a nurse version with her name and hearts on both side of her name. These files are never post for public use one they are mostly personalized and 2 the design is not mind to share. The idea of not having to pay additionally for remixes is a good Idea. As you mention the remixes could be faulted. How will you vet them to ensure they stay to the standard of quality you provide?
I understand what you mean so for example if I'm just changing colour and adding names for customers that's the tier we are currently on but if I want to add like and football flag for team badge and sell them I would need to go on the new creator tier but would also be able to post on maker world for others to download for free personal use. That's how I see it. I think it's a great idea
Yeah, I'll stay away from trademark logo discussions to keep it clear but if you, or anyone, for example, came up with a beach theme design that has a generic wave logo on it you can sell that all day long under the current $5 subscription. But if you decide you want to post the file for others to download free or at a cost, then thats on the new tier. If I don't do it this way then I open myself up to things like someone making a very minor change and then posting it.
I’m that weird in between user. I don’t want to sell, but I’d like to be able to make and gift, even if I had your logo on the bottom! So I like all the access. I know I have posted a few comments asking if there will be sports teams or sport types added, but purely for my own I’d like to have but I can’t do design. Would those things fall into that second tier? I also asked about if there is an easy way to adjust the cooler band to be more in the center of my print, I tried to move it myself but it made it all off kilter. I’m sure it’s a me issue. LOL
The logos getting added would fall under the new tier for people wanting to post them but I can't give the okay for any trademarked stuff. These trademarks are a huge risk for the 3D printing inductry and for people like me. Adjusting the center band is something I would want to do personally because its a funsdamental design change.
To be clear, because some have asked..... this does not stop my existing members or new members on the $5 tier from customizing these and selling them..... this is about posting digital downloads of remixes. If you are currently remixing my files and posting them for digital downlaod, wether free or for a price, that has never been a license option so this new tier simply provides a path for that type of setup.
Thanks for the information , I appreciate all you do and understand. I personally would not let them be able to let the item be downloaded because you lose control and there are so many people already taking credit for your work. Count me in to the new tier and I will not be posting the file for download because I respect you as the artist
Have you run this by anyone? If you’re charging for access to a creator tier that gives trademarked things, you’re going to probably be held responsible. Think Napster. It’s a disaster waiting to happen. I just don’t see a great way to do all this and keep it safe. I’d love to put things up, I could build dozens a week but it would ultimately come crashing down.
I am not able to give any licensing or permissions to any trademarked logos. I can't stop people but I can't permit it so if someone posts a remix with a trademarked logo that is not something I can be part of.
This left me more confused than helpful unfortunately. Are you stating that in order to apply a logo or text to a print, we need to have this different tier? You state themed versions, what does that entail? Are we not allowed to paint logos or images in the slicer? Can we add logos or affix items to the print after it is printed? If we have to get another their to do this it would the the first creator I have subscribed to that put these behind a paywall. Maybe I am misunderstanding.
This is my question as well. I’ve been applying logos to them and printing for selling purposes. I have not uploaded these new designs anywhere. Just printing to sell. Do I need a new tier?
I need your assistance, how can I reach out to you
I love the sentiment behind this post. But unfortunately, I worry you are going to spend most of your time filing takedown requests if you really plan to enforce your vision. Tons of 3D printing groups discuss your designs multiple times a day and mostly how to remove your logo from the free tiers. Unfortunately, if you don't want to be cut out of your designs you almost have to be the bottleneck.
This. Seen a post yesterday where some was directing them to your patreon and others was simply explaining how to remove the trademark....
thank you
So I would need the creator tier if I wanted to add people's names either through 3d printing or laser or uv printer?
You would not need this tier for that, the existing tier can be used for that as long as those aren't being publicly posted. Example: you create a version that says Mrs. Smith on it, you can print and sell under the $5 tier. But I'm asking that you do not post that for people to download. But if you want to do that then its the new tier.
And how much will this tier be ?
I also would like to know
