The Bar, Nathan, and Plans Before Paris.
About the bar and Nathan. The event's skeleton is already written, part of the art is ready, and right now I'm working on the dialogues. There will be a setup and, most likely, the option to work four days before Paris: the offer comes in on Monday, so from Monday to Friday you get exactly four shifts at the bar.
Originally, I was thinking of making it smaller and rolling it out in parts, but I'd rather close out all the events that were supposed to happen before Paris in one go.
What's left for the main update is to wrap up the storylines of the Voyeur, Lilianna, and Samantha — and then we'll finally complete the bulk of the branches started before Paris.
There's also Jill, but her branch can in principle be done after Paris. Especially since she doesn't have all that many fans, and for me that matters: this is still work, after all, and I'd like to get a certain return for it. I think that's a perfectly normal desire for any working person.
In my opinion, the Sophie confrontation branch has much greater potential. I've previously posted some excerpts from early documents on it — there's room for some interesting events there. Maybe it's worth tackling them?
But let's get back to where I started — to Nathan. How do you see him? The typical "BBC" trope, or something else? Again, this doesn't mean I'll cater to every wish, but a person's character is multifaceted: some elements don't contradict each other and can quite easily be combined.
The way it's usually portrayed in games of our genre — that I definitely won't be doing. Those who know my stance on the topic (and the folks in our Discord are in the know) will understand. I just haven't yet figured out how exactly to play this moment out. But don't expect the "oh, you're so huge, I came just from the sight of it" kind of thing either. That's not how it works: while I'm writing something like that, I'll wet myself laughing. And do you really need a dev who's wetting himself? My PC tower is right under my feet — it might short-circuit. I understand this will disappoint some people, but better to be disappointed now.
Anyway, looking forward to your comments.
По бару и Натану. Скелет эвента уже написан, часть арта готова, сейчас идёт прописывание диалогов. Будет завязка и, скорее всего, возможность отработать четыре дня до Парижа: предложение поступает в понедельник, так что с понедельника по пятницу как раз получается четыре смены в баре.
Изначально думал сделать поменьше и вводить по частям, но хочется закрыть все события, которые должны были произойти до Парижа, разом.
В основном обновлении останется довести до конца линии Подглядывающего, Лилианы и Саманты — и тогда мы наконец завершим большую часть веток, начатых до Парижа.
Есть ещё Джилл, но её ветку в принципе можно сделать и после Парижа. Тем более поклонников у неё не так много, а для меня это важно: это всё-таки работа, и хочется получать за неё определённую отдачу. Думаю, это абсолютно нормальное желание любого работающего человека.
Гораздо больший потенциал, на мой взгляд, у ветки противостояния с Софи. Я ранее публиковал некоторые выдержки из ранних документов по ней — там есть место для интересных событий. Может, стоит ими заняться?
Но вернёмся к тому, с чего я начал, — к Натану. Каким вы его видите? Типичная тема «BBC» или что-то другое? Опять же, это не значит, что я буду подстраиваться под все хотелки, но характер человека многогранен: какие-то элементы друг другу не противоречат и вполне могут сочетаться.
Как это обычно показано в играх нашего жанра, я делать точно не буду — те, кто знает моё отношение к теме (а сидящие в нашем дискорде в курсе), меня поймут. Просто пока не придумал, как именно разыграть этот момент. Но и варианта в духе «о, у тебя такой огромный, я кончила только от одного вида» тоже точно не ждите. Это так не работает: я, пока буду такое писать, описаюсь со смеху. А вам оно надо — описывающийся разработчик? У меня системник под ногами, ещё закоротит. Понимаю, что кого-то это разочарует, но лучше разочаровывайтесь сейчас.
В общем, жду в комментах.
Comments (32)
I like the BBC and the charming manipulator combo but I will add a real attraction for her and real kindness (with something in mind for sure) not just to fuck her and add her like trophy.
Вообще, у меня тут идея появилась относительно Натана. По характеру он вполне может быть харизматичным шутником который за шутками прячет довольно ранимого и чуткого парня. Идея состоит в том, что Эмма устраивается к нему в бар на вечернюю подработку (стриптиз, бармен или обслуживание столиков) и там можно всякие истории придумать, типа какого нибудь поситителя который к ней присиает а Натан ща нее вступается и т.д., ну и Эмма по ходу развития истории открывает вот это вот второе дно его личности (как ранимого и чуткого парня который по шутке судьбы уде давно одинок). Сам Натан после тех посиделак с соседями у него в баре влюблен в нее и дальше по ходу сюжета можно или ответить ему взаимностью, или поддавшись минутной слабости разок переспать, или познакомить Натана к примеру с Джил, которую Эмма может привести под предлогом вечерних посиделак у друга в неплохом баре. Типа, помочь этим двоим наладить свою личную жизнь. Было бы прикольно на мой взгляд, узнав о одиночестве вполне не плохого парня и прекрасного друга таки помочь ему устроить свою личную жизнь. Мне даже такой поворот его истории понравился бы. Конечно он пока не расскрыт как персонаж и к нему сложно питать какие та отрицательные или положительные эмоции, но его сюжетка должна расскрыть его как персонажа и мне кажется что не плохо бы было расскрыть его как хорошего парня, а не как какого та монипулятора, доминанта и т.д.. В этом плане, на мой взгляд, Виктора вполне хватает, как и фотографа)))
Please do not bury your advanced art work in the BBC muck and mire demonstrated by Tifa, and Camilla, and a host of other pussy providers. Emma should take the job because of the money and not the dark dick. Together they can improve the bottom line of the bar but it has been developed as a pretty small operation and not a large layout like Mike and Riley's place with room for a post. How about adding Jill to the program at the bar and bringing something special to the party???
I am looking forward to the Jill scenes especially. Also, it would be fun to see what you have in store for Sophie and Emma. I would love to see Sophie spanked. She certainly deserves it. Keep up the incredible work. I love this game!!!
Spot on! Personally I could care less if Nathan is even in the story at all. The BBC thing is totally overdone. His current personality lends itself well for the real Nathan to be sexually insecure. Nathan really has a need to be dominated. This would also allow our girl realize just how much power she really has. I'm not a big fan of the total slut route. So tired of her falling to her knees whenever a guy is around. I like strong female characters. You can be a strong woman and still love sex. And please broaden her sexual interests. There are so many hot women in the story she could also be playing with.
If I understand correctly, when Nathan brought Emma her panties, he wants them, but only if she really wants them and after a bit of a struggle. This implies an event that would lead Emma to give in to Nathan, but what event? The rescue has already been attributed to Justin, so what other possibilities are there? I'm thinking about it, what about you?
Мне казалось, что Эмма решится принять предложение Натана по работе, уже после событий в Париже, так как у нее теперь есть долг Виктору, который она должна выплатить!? Хотя тут есть и другой возможный ход мысли автора, что с Натаном принять работу до Парижа это в принципе нормальный вариант, для дополнительного заработка, а вот принять решение по киностудии для фильмов после Парижа это уже ход отчаяния со стороны ГГ... Офф топик вопрос: Почему убрали яхту за миллион из магазина? 🤣🤣🤣
Classic BBC is winning I see...sigh. Anyway, I'd prefer to see him as a sly manipulator. Work on her insecurities, play on hubby's relationships at work to sow doubt, get her into a compromising situation and THEN play into the classic bold/dominant trope. Bammo!
of f****ing course the lameass trope of BBC is winning....
I personally like it all so far, but I'd like you to keep a surprise or two that you don't show sneak peeks. I will say that I do love the sneak peeks, but you are so talented, it would be cool to get a surprise or two nobody was expecting. You're so talented it will be amazing without any input regardless and it really would be like a present to all your supporters when we first get to try and don't have any expectations and watch it unfold right in front of us. Just my opinion. Anyways keep up the great work.
I hope you stay away from the “classic bbc” it will ruin the game . Tired of that racist trope used in so many games
PLEAZE avoid that moronic BBC trope, Being Mixed race Black and Native American it is in fact insulting. Yeah I know a lot of whites have that fantasy but I would prefer a more balanced character, like a pervy friend or like you Zaid life of the party or maybe a friend she can set up with one of her friends/associates.
I understand you.
Nothing wrong with the Classic, there are already enough charmers and manipulators in the game.
Alles sehr interessante Ansätze. Aber ich bin für das klischee. Schwarzer Mann nimmt weisse Frau. Aber ich denke du hast die Geschichte bis jetzt sehr gut geschrieben. Also freue ich mich auf deine weiteren Gedanken und lasse mich gerne überraschen. Ausserdem würde ich mich über eine weitere Entwicklung bei Thailer mit Samantha und Liliean freuen. Auch die Entwicklung mit dem Nachbarsjungen gefällt mir.
while I realize that this may be out of scope, I would love to see options for how Nate goes after Emma with different outcomes. Does she end up owning the bar? Does she end up leaving the office to spend more time at the bar. Crazy, I know, but I can dream of so many different ways of getting emma in trouble!
Make him a sub, that would be a different take from the basic bbc guy. Ideas : Emma goes ''domination route'' with the secretary and victor. She could make her clean the floor from her not swallowing the whole load or something. Then she could explore this domination route with Nathan.
If i remember right(maybe not) there was choice after game in bar where you can stop that route, and later when he return her panties,another choice to avoid that,so if i am right,how you implement that or it is avoidable? Also,you say that you wouldn't do that BBC stereotype, but choices that you suggest for vote are more or less the same.If we believe that all people are same ,why never one of this characters are dumb,weak,impotent or cuckold.Other thought.. working in bar logically fit to be before she start to work in that company. Because .. well... Things looks that.....i am overwhelmed sexy bombshell,who works in very big corporation, already in sales, and eventually make deals for big money,also i am erotic model(stil for lingerie before Paris),but anyway . And i have big goals,but at the end i work in the bar for tips....and if this as you say happens before Paris ,there is still no big debt to Victor,so she i supposed not desperate still.That's why i think that this route is much beter to be situated at the begining of the story,i that way you graduate her character more naturaly.There was line in conversation with Tyler in the begining where she sarcastically ask him would he wish she work as waitress. And after the incident when she was in the bar with Justin there is moment where was posible to insert that side story,for example ,because answer from Stivens is postponed......haha,just voted and saw where is all go.....so will see will you do what you promised..
I'm confused...why are we moving back before Paris? This one doesn't interest me much, to be honest. I don't have an issue with interracial. The bartender was a creep and a non factor IMHO.
The way the bartender behaved with her panties, already established him as a creeper. I’d be just as happy to skip the interracial all together. I generally just click past it when it occurs. It doesn’t add anything to the story other than a demeaning scene for the white woman. Some people like that but I’d rather see the bartenders girl show up just as he is making his move and drags him home by the ear. I’m tired of the “poor white girl can’t help herself when she sees the BBC” cliche. ( and yes, I am comfortable with the size of my penis ).
I like the zebra approach suggested by otherrs and could even expand to Nathan being closet gay but a good business man who has financed the bar with a previous semi-pro sports career.I have had high hopes that you would not turn a beautiful and intelligent woman who married a person that she thought she loved and promised to be loyal to into just another pussy provider in the footsteps of Riley, Lisa, Jennifer (4X), Anna, ad nauseam.
I'm not a fan of the bbc thing and statistically the average size is very consistent in all ethnicities world wide. Of course in porn it seems the bigger the better. I'm fine with anything you choose to do with Nathan and the bar as long as the final choice is up to Sarah. Oh and I would love to see Sophie put in her place. Jill would be fun but not a rush.
I think Nathan seducing Emma could be the beginning of her corruption which opened the door for Victor to have his way with her in Paris. Some flirtation which leads to something more that she regrets afterwards. But this event unlocks something inside that she's been trying to surpress and is now too much for her to ignore any longer.
I think you should subvert the classic BBC trope. The thing about Nathan is that he's inwardly needy and insecure. Emma is the one who actually holds all the cards. Maybe he wants to be seen as the big dom guy and he tries to act that way. But she puts him in his place before (potentially) giving him what he wants. It would be fun if, in spite of his machismo and endowments, she reduced him to begging.
Interesting thought.
I'd prefer him being the Life of the Party and party sly schemer (soul of the company according to another translation) where he enjoys his friends (Justin and Shelly and now Tyler and Emma) and secretly adores Emma too. He knows he has no chance for Emma to actually leave Tyler for him, but whenever the chance opens itself, he's not shy enough to slowly try and insert himself through Emma's barriers... even if it's just for a single time. Also, it'd be funny if he'd NOT be have a BBC, but just average or even below average.
But there's already a scene where it shows that he has a big one so that wouldn't make any sense. Otherwise I would agree with you here
Nathan sits on the sideline waiting for the prey to wander in his back yard. He uses his one-liners and off-beat jokes to soften up the victim until they don't realize how he has manipulated them into his complex web. This is when the victim is questioning everything that is happening to them without blaming the predator. 😰😁
Quite honestly, given that he already had that moment watching Emma and Tyler in the street and used her panties. It's go for the macho sports, confident side. He's already bold enough and already know he's packing. Emma has that they'll for a confident man which is why I believe she's so into Justin. I'll be happy with whatever you produce. You're doing amazing so far. Keep it up
Hello everyone. Well, since I've been around for a while, and as an admirer of your work, I've learned that no matter what I think or expect, you'll always surprise me positively. If I understand correctly, we'll have all these arcs before the "fall (Paris)," meaning Emma is still "pure." Is that disappointing? It could be, but not in your case, because your narrative is so impactful that it negates any unbridled desire, you understand? So I'll stick with that, just follow your line, and I'll endorse it.
Pareil pour moi.
I think Jill is under the radar because there are not many events that bring her back in the memory. I can't wait for the Jill and peeping tom branch to get some love. I do make my brake with jill every work day 🙂