Deeper Friendship
Adds five new friendship tiers, improves existing tiers, and adds optional progression locks.
🔽 Download: CurseForge / SFS
Supported Languages: All 🌍
Patch Resilience: Moderate ℹ️
The Friendship track hasn’t changed much since the game’s launch over a decade ago. This mod aims to expand and deepen it by adding five new friendship tiers, reworking how relationship rewards are handled, and introducing an optional progression system to make friendships feel more earned.
Overhauled Friendship Track
The new tiers slot seamlessly between EA’s existing tiers, some of which have been given new Maxis-match icons. The added tiers are: Hated, Indifferent, Friendly, Casual Friends, and Close Friends.
General Changes
It is appropriate for Close Friends to grab a snack or take a bath on the active lot.
It is appropriate for Best Friends to grab a snack, bathe, sleep, and clean on the active lot.
A friendship is only considered “lost” once Sims fall below Casual Friends (20), not just when they dip out of the “Friends” tier.
With Growing Together installed, Sims will begin friendships at slightly different starting points depending on their compatibility. Child Sims also lose confidence when they lose friends.
Friendship Bit Loot Overhaul
In the base game, rewards are tied to reaching (or dropping into) a tier, but this happens regardless of whether the relationship is improving or declining. For example: dropping from Good Friends to Friends still grants the same positive loots (like confidence gain) as if you had just become Friends for the first time.
This mod fixes that with three separate loot lists:
First Time Loots: triggered when you reach a tier with a Sim for the very first time.
Trending Up Loots: triggered when the relationship improves and climbs into a higher tier.
Trending Down Loots: triggered when the relationship worsens and falls into a lower tier.
This makes the system more logical and emotionally consistent. Your Sims won’t be rewarded for a failing friendship anymore. Instead, rewards (and penalties) now reflect the direction of the relationship, not just the label.
Optional Add-On: Long Term Building
This add-on slows down how quickly friendships can deepen, making relationships feel more gradual and realistic.
How it works:
When a Sim first reaches one of four milestones (Friendly, Friends, Good Friends, or Close Friends), they must wait a few in-game hours before the friendship can progress through normal (non-supernatural) methods.
Cooldown Details:
The cooldown shortens as Sims improve their Charisma skill (or Social skill for children):
Skill 2 or lower → 12 in-game hours
Skill 3–4 → 9.5 in-game hours
Skill 5–6 → 7 in-game hours
Skill 7–8 → 4.5 in-game hours
Skill 9 or higher → 2 in-game hours
Special Cases:
Sims that live in the same household and Sims younger than Child age are exempt.
Sims adventuring in Batuu are exempt.
Sims can always rebuild relationships up to their highest previously reached milestone.
For instance, if a Sim falls from Good Friends to Disliked with another Sim, they can climb back up without waiting at each step.
A small “Milestone Recently Reached” lock appears in the relationship panel during an active cooldown. Once it disappears, the friendship can grow again.
Sims participating in a Friendship Challenge are exempt.
Note: Cooldowns only affect friendship gains. Sims can still lose friendship progress naturally because it’s always easier to burn a bridge than it is to build one.
This add-on does not impact romantic gains.
Compatibility
✅ This mod is compatible with MC Command Center's "Friendship Difficulty Adjustment" and "Friendship Decay Rate" settings.
⚠️ This mod will conflict with any mods that override the following tuning files:
15792<!--friendship-acquaintances-->
15794<!--friendship-bff-->
15796<!--friendship-despised-->
15802<!--friendship-disliked-->
15797<!--friendship-friend-->
15799<!--friendship-good_friends-->
129296<!--Loot_HasBeenFriends-->
273546<!--loot_NoLongerFriends-->
16650<!--LTR_Friendship_Main-->
16651<!--LTR_Romance_Main-->
This mod was made possible by Sims 4 Studio, Tuning Builder, and STBL Studio.
Comments (43)
Hi tyjokr! Thank you very much for this mod. I love what it does to the friendship system! I just have one issue. I haven't been able to find the option to Become Best Friends under Relationship since I downloaded the mod (I also have your Tidy UI mod).
I didn't find it either
I like this mod but it doesn't seem to work as intended with lifestyles. The Close Knit and People Person lifestyles check for the friends and good friends relationship bits and this mod adds lots of other relationship bits that SHOULD count as friends for the lifestyle but don't.
I really enjoy this mod, and I like being forced to slow down with my sims storytelling -- but since this doesn't affect the romance relationship bar, things feel a little lopsided? Like after a good date (particularly if it's been extended once or twice, as they always ask to do), the romance bar will be almost full but the friendship bar was capped shortly after the date started. I notice it even more with the WW casual romantic trait -- since that removes the romance bar until you "fall in love", growing a relationship goes really slowly for those sims compared to the ones that aren't casual. Would it be possible to extend this to the romance bar?
Hey there, I have a question about this mod. I have a mod (Storytelling Socials) that tests for whether or not Sims are good friends. It does this test by the relationship bit, not by the friendship track. For example, Express Gratitude for {Sim} only applies to Good Friends. Will this mod cause that interaction not to appear on Close Friends?
Hey! Yes. If you test by bit and not by the value of the track, then you’d need to add the Close Friends bit to your tests in order for Close Friends to pass it.
hi tyjokr_DeeperFriendship.packageShow Tuning Invalid Tuning LTR_Friendship_Main
With MissyHissy's Personality, Hopes and Fear and Custom Want Mods it seems that any wants to do with friendship doesn't count as completed. For example a "Make a Friend" doesnt complete when with this mod it says the sims are "Good Friends". Does that mean these mods aren’t compatible?
I’ll take a look and see what the issue could be
does this conflict with sims4me Romance Matters - Parenthood Module ?
it appears it does conflict
this mod seems to conflict with Relationship Picking by Ava the Pit. (https://www.patreon.com/posts/tweak-picking-144161987) specifically, the LTR_Romance_Main file. is there any way to make these mods compatible?
That modder makes one change to LTR_Romance_Main relating to the visibility of the romance bar. That change isn’t required for their mod’s core functionality. If you place my mod in a priority folder so it loads first, both mods will work together.
This sounds like such an improvement to the friends system! Can't wait to play it out in game <3
Hi, tyjokr.Does this module include Chinese translation?
Yes!
close friends can't exchange friendship bracelets, only good friends can
I’ll fix! Thanks for letting me know.
where do i find 'ask to be best friends' i cant find it anywhere and their friendship bar is full
Do you have my tidy pie menu mod? It’s under Relationship > Change Relationship if so
That my two Sims become best friends 5 times within 2 minutes is surely not normal, right?
No. Definitely not normal.
Hi Tyjokr! I've been using this mod for some time, but recently I received a Last Exception from Better Exceptions saying that it is currently broken. “Exception while updating story progression service.: (IndexError: list index out of range)”
That doesn’t read like an error from my mod. Do you have the full report?
Hi! I don't know why but I keep getting an invalid tuning from better exceptions for this mod
What does it say is invalid?
Hello! I would love to try out this mod, but do you know if would conflict with Lumpinou's Romances & Friendships mod?
It does not conflict. You're good to try it out!
I didn't know about that mod or maybe I have forgot about it. VERY GOOD!
when will this be released publicly?
It's available now!
Sorry, I love your mods I have various of the, I already just met you so I don't even know how long your mods are public release, do you have any date of that? and sorry for my english
It’s releasing publicly October 2nd.
love this already
What a great idea!
Hi :) quick question ,will this conflict with privacytweak from Sims4Me Close friends and relatives share bathrooms without ado . seeing as it sorta does the same thing with bathrooms ?
I’ll take a look today and let you know
Me, showing someone the friendship tiers printout: "So what are we?"
😆
Luv it!
How was this not a part of the game already?! This is so good, thank you! 💕
This is going to be brilliant
Damn, this is awesome 😭🫶🏻
