Houshou Marine 5-Song Study — 'III', 'A Horny Money World', 'I'm Your Treasure Box', 'Dead Ma'am's Chest' & 'Suki-Suki Diesuki'

Watching Tim fight to maintain composure and break down Treasure Box while Senchou is moaning with abandon was not something on my bingo card, yet I enjoyed it nonetheless.

37:54 "She's got all that bottom down there" HE KNOWS~~

I'm actually surprised, I only joined this Patreon to check out your Mori Deep Dives (I'm a Dead Beat, if I'm anything at all) only for you to do a study on Marine. If you end up doing a Takane Lui deep dive, then you will have hit all of my favorite Hololive artists. Honestly I feel like her musical talent is under appreciated.

37:52 Yeah she sure does got all that bottom

If at 36:42 you mean the word "senchou" thats just 'captain'

I think Marine very well represents a good-sized portion of women in Hololive who had it VERY hard before joining Cover Corp, but kept pressing on and never gave up. Working for a "Black Company," getting a "Christmas bonus" of rotting oranges, and so many other things that she's told through the years, you can't help but admire her perseverance. And she's very empathetic when talking to people with serious, life-changing questions about how to navigate the real world. I think some folks get the idea that she's just got her "sexy pirate" schtick, but she has a very self-aware, understanding side to her. There are many reasons she's currently the most-subscribed VTuber in the world.

I think there are still a few more Marine songs worth examining, such as マリン出航！！ (Marine Sets Sail!!), "How about Pai Pai Mask?", "Shinkiro" (with Gawr Gura), and maybe a few covers, like "Stay With Me," "Bloody Stream" (the first JoJo's Bizarre Adventure OP), and Marine's version of "Sacred!! Loli Goddess Requiem☆ ."

She has an amazing voice, sometimes I feel like she was a VA in the past or would do really well as one. She does a really good deep guttural voice when she's scolding or screaming at people during her streams, fells like straight out of an anime and I love it haha

One of the best parts of Treasure Box was it was EXTREMELY popular when it came out to Japan, to the point it was getting main stream radio play. I don't remember who it was exactly who said it in Hololive, but they were telling a story they were in a store with kids in it and Treasure Box was playing on the store's music and they were like "Senchou, what did you do..."

33:42 The original version of the MV didn't have this scene censored but Youtube restricted it almost instantly.

I don't know if I'm crazy for this comparison but I always felt Marine sat in a similar space to like burlesque or drag shows. To me, those kinds of things use sexiness for fun and entertainment purposes, which feels different than stuff that uses sexiness for the actual purpose of arousal. Like yes, there's emphasis on the body and skimpy clothes and whatnot, but there's also creativity and fun there that stuff that's just for titillation doesn't really go for. Idk, maybe it's just cope or whatever but yeah, I think like Tim said there's art to what Marine does, and if nothing else you can just look at the insane quality of all of her MVs. She puts just as much care and effort into the sexy ones as she does into the more "serious" ones like Dead Ma'am's Chest. Also, I see others have pointed out that Dead Maam's Chest is basically a sequel to I'm Your Treasure Box, but I think one really cool thing you might not have caught on your first listen is that the melody during the metal breakdown part with the headbanging skeletons during Dead Maam's Chest is the same opening/verse melody from I'm Your Treasure Box!

senchou basically means captain. cause she is a pirate. and that is what her crew (fansbase) would refer her as. marine senchou.

Dead Ma'am's Chest was composed by Toby Fox! Since you're starting to get into video game music on your channel you will definitely come across his name again. He is the lead creator and composer of Undertale which was an indie video game that became an instant breakout hit, beloved for its wonderful characters, subversive game mechanics and story, and probably most of all its astonishingly fantastic soundtrack. Toby is a powerhouse creative genius in my opinion. Marine is a huge fan of Undertale so it was a huge move for her to work with him on this song! The song "Megalovania" which Marine used as inspiration for this song is the most well known track from Undertale, it's catchy and thematic, used in one of the biggest boss fights in the whole game. Some of the elements that you noticed from Dead Ma'am's Chest, for instance the looping melody over a changing bass note, or that particular guitar tone are very recognizable markers of Toby's style.

If you ever want to dive into the productive more in depth, there are always instrumentals released alongside these singles! They'll be under the Release tab on Artist channels, and auto generated Topic channels for ones without the music note next to their name

Definitely easy to see why Ado loves her so much and did a vtuber project just so she could work with her.

Marine and Kobo did a live performance of Overdose that is worthy of a longer study. https://youtu.be/CZlpsyFELwU?is=jKmVX-vYxHRxIaV2

Risu is my Kami Oshi but Marine is the best vtuber 😂

ok, finished up now. Her higher pitch she is able to adapt really well to many styles, her push for experimentation in the style of music she does, her unabashed attitude about visuals. Can you tell why she's Ado's favorite Vtuber?

Important note for the last three songs is they are telling a continued story. if the left eye is yellow it is the “real” marine, the other is a reincarnation or descendant. at the end of treasure box she is still trapped inside the box literally, begging to be let out. In dead maams chest, at the refrain/bridge/whatever you call the slowdown/flashback you see her bones in the chest; the ghost is the ghost of marine who died from being trapped in the chest. The final song is her ghost being put to rest. Just some fun extra context

Senchou (chou pronouned in 'chores') is a Captain. Her persona is Pirate Captain, and has kept to the persona of a eternal 17-year old cosplaying a pirate captain, come rain or shine. She is very well known for making fun of her age, as her chat leans heavily into the joke that she is 17 Season Two (she's well into her 30's). She is one of the most energetic and versatile voice actors in Hololive. Personally, I think she is a famous VA (voice actor) and have heard a few voices in anime that sound EXACTLY like her. She recently announced she will be supplying the Ending song "BOOOOM!" to an anime called 'Magilumiere Magical Girls Inc.' or 'Majirumie' for short. I'm disappointed you didn't get to hear her song 'Pai Pai Mask' it is catchy and the animation is one of the best. The same animation studio that gave us Panty & Stocking, Bang! Dream, and Sakura Wars.

Great reaction, Marine is so fun to check out! Tim trust me if I say this to you, but you haven't even seen close to the crazy stuff out there from Camellia as a producer lmao. He is absolutely a genius music producer that has become a legend in the Rhythm game scene and he can go so much harder in songs.

You actually hit it near dead on with Dead Ma'ams Chest. The main theme for the song is "When all you do is chase treasure, do you own the treasure or does the treasure own you?" which fits her pirate theme perfectly.

I would love to have a dead ma'am chest separate study, in that song she is singing two different parts one of the ghost and of her which is the reason the lyrics are call and response. Toby fox is the developer and composer for Undertale the game, he is incredibly well regarded for his compositions, Camellia is a vocaloid producer, his tracks are extremely complicated and high bpm and typically have a lot going on. Most of camellia's tracks are extremely popular tracks for rthymn games

Slightly unrelated but I think an undertale ost deep dive could be a good idea. Toby Fox (The guy who wrote the dead ma’ms chest) is incredibly talented. Undertale, the work you referenced, is a game completely written and programmed by him, as well as the majority of the art for the game. On top of all of that he wrote one of the most iconic osts in history. There’s bits from every genre, fun and playful bits, and big and epic pieces. I’ve always said especially his use of motif and counter/sub melodies is most impressive. It’s relatively short, doable in a video for sure. As someone that studied music theory I feel like I’m learning something new with every listen. Anyway that aside I’m glad you checked out Marine, she’s probably my favorite singer on the Jp side.

Ah, I'm Your Treasure Box should obviously have been first in the line-up... Otherwise great. Hope the wife doesn't watch these vids lol 34:05 Senchou means captain.

Also, I know we don’t really care, but some people really care. Especially people in Japan. Try not to say anything at all about a what a corpo vtuber did before joining or after leaving if she left. I don’t think any of us in your group care all that much, but some will get mad outside of your group. Since most Vtuber corpo will follow the idol culture, which for the most part, Hololive does and the fans.

The one thing that marine refuses to skimp out on is the production of the music video. She tends to hire professional anime studios to fully produce her videos and pays for the cost from her own pockets.

So, with the JP branch of Hololive. For the names, they follow the traditional Asian way where they put the Surname first and the given name second. So, you can just call them the second name and don’t need to say the surname when talking about them. Like Housou Marine, she just goes by Marine and same with Kobo.