Vocaloid Producers 6 SONG STUDY: Dec0*27, Inabakumori, Giga, Pinocchio-P, Iyowa, Utsu-P (81 minutes)

I’m a new patron because of the Mafu video (had to watch the full thing) and as a long time fan of all vocaloid and utaites, I love that these producers that were introduced (especially Iyowa, because I’m addicted again to this song recently, Project Sekai version). My introduction into Miku was the Project Diva arcade game and getting into NicoNico and the first few producers I listened to were Ryo (supercell), Akuno-p, Halyosy, and Wowaka just to name a few and one thing, I don’t know if someone else commented it but the first part of Giga is pronounced like the gee in geek

New Patron too, I have to say, my personal interpretation of "Ga" is about being disabled- people prodding into the cocoon, (Are you ACTUALLY disabled? How?), ableist inspiration posts (this person only has one leg and climbed the mountain! What's YOUR excuse?) with the lyric of 'live an inspirational life (but not as grand as mine), and the fact that people with disabilities, the moths, are treated as inferior despite being the same as butterflies.

new patreon here, because i love seeing people react to iyowa for the first time. i love their unconventional instrumentals and, since you seemed to enjoy heat abnormal a lot, would love to see you checking out more of their stuff ^^

I just have to say, I saw this video on Youtube and resonated so much with how you and your wonderful team analyse music that I came straight to Patreon, just to watch the full length. Thank you so much for your appreciation of this music scene and it's incredible producers! I got over excited and posted song recommendations on this video, but I've deleted those and I'll repost them into the recommendation thread!

Iyowa is my favorite producer just for how crazy things went and how unique and interesting the instrumental is lol

Pinnochiop is one of my favorites. A fun fact of him thats sets him apart, aside from his unique tuning, is often he sings / alongside / miku. If you hear any male harmonys in his songs (often,) thats him dueting with miku. Its so sweet.

I'm really happy to see how much you enjoyed this. "I'm Glad You're Evil Too" is probably my most favorite Vocaloid song, and you just grasped the art of it so well. Can say that about all the pieces really. There was a lot of back and forth over which exact songs to recommend, as some of these artists are well past a hundred songs written. Glad the choices worked well. At the same time there's a bunch more artists that just barely got put behind these. In fact, you mentioned worry about the scene fading out, but one of the other choices for Giga is a song called "Play" that's only weeks old, and is just an absurdly good banger of a dance song. For now at least there's plenty of creativity happening. And that means more content, let's gooo!

Im so happy rn guys

i think you'd enjoy comparing the Voice Providers of some these vocaloids to their Vocaloid counter-parts, as a lot of VP's have covered soem songs made with their voice banks!

For the Vocaloid fan who are new here: you can go to the Monthly song post (pinned) and like & recommend songs!!! Make sure to scroll first so you’re not recommending repeated songs tho!

I think the biggest point for me of technology use in art is how much creative skill still remain when you take away the technology. Things like Vocaloid or digital art software still heavily rely on the artists’ own ability. Even if you take away the technology, their skill and artistic identity is still there. The producers can definitely make the same song without Vocaloid, sometimes VocaloidP do better and become more famous when they started making songs with human vocal actually. Which is a huge difference from generative AI like Suno, the people who uses those most likely couldn’t make anything similar without relying on the technology. The creator matters a lot less in that case.

Still kinda sad Kikuo and sasuke haraguchi isn’t here… and Please check out more iyowa pls!! his has so many unconventional music and honestly it might be a bit hard to listen to at first lol, he’s def one of my favorite vocaloidp rn, and fun fact he also drew and animated all his mv too.

Wouldn’t necessarily say people use Vocaloid specifically for songs that human can’t sings tho (some producers definitely like to do that, like iyowa, he likes crazy inhuman high notes lol). Result wise, it’s mostly for indie, like people without much resources to make music. A tons of (especially in the earlier days) VocaloidP started when they’re still students, where they either can’t record song themselves or hire vocalists. Which is why a lot if producers were self taught and independent artist (some got signed later but in general VocaloidP started as indie)

You should totally check out more pinocchioP, Iyowa, inabakumori, and utsuP For pinnochio I would really recommend: Love Attribute Non Breath Oblige All I Need Are Things I Like Without Me Reincarnation Apple Don't Believe in T For Iyowa I would recommend: Living Millenium IMAWANOKIWA Kyu-kurarin For inabakumori I would recommend: Lost Umbrella Relayouter and for utsuP I would recommend: I Thought I Was an Angel Vulgar Mikusabbath Hyper Reality Show Also some other producers to check out would be: Maretu Kairiki Bear Mimi Kikuo Neru Wowaka Harumaki Gohan Orangestar

I've been a fan of vocaloid basically since Miku dropped. I listened basically from 2009 until today and have really loved people reacting to vocaloid who are knowledgeable in music because the production is genuinely insane and has influenced so so so much over the years. A lot of old school vocaloid producers now do mainstream music. I really recommend Kenshi Yonezu's old stuff like Musunde Hiraite. The audio will be super crunchy because it's a 12 year old song but it's an interesting listen :) I would love for you to do a study on Kikuo, Yuyoyuppe, and Syuudou. You reacted to Kikuo a little already, but his stuff is very experimental. Yuyoyuppe I think does a lot of writing for Babymetal, but was producing vocaloid music waaaay back. I really recommend Leia, Reon (a sequel to leia), and Sick. Syuudou goes heavy into the creepy vibes. Vocaloid in general has gotten more mainstream in sound, but a trend (i say this loosely) were stories like Witch Hunt, Bad End Night (and all the following stories related to it), and even a genre called VocaHorror which is built on the theme of horror music and horror vibes in music. Vocaloid really expanded my relationship with music because it detached me from the idea that musicians need to be "authentic" to themselves and made me see that musicians can just use music to play, write stories, and convey things that go beyond their own experiences. It's so fun!

OOOH also you should listen to "not a devil" by biyh Deco27 and Pino-P. you can hear the differences brtween their tuning styles within the same song

i'm new to your patreon but if you really liked monitoring, i really suggest the monitoring 2 (monitoning best friend remix) it has a whole new sound and some changed lyrics to iy

Funny you mentioned Phantom Siita regarding Ga, because their name follows a similar logic as the song. They are named after a type of moth that *mimics* a different species of butterfly. As in they are moths pretending to be butterflies (idols). Their earlier black and red dresses are based on the colour pattern on this moth (and the butterfly it mimics).

I would love seeing you to use Vocaloid or some other voicebank and figure out how it works

I think for utsuP he is using v4x or v5. Miku has growls in them but still has the distinct miku sounds, she can't really scream well in either of them so it's incredibly impressive how utsuP manages to tune his voicebanks. Deco*27 was given his own two custom voicebanks of miku's by crypton that suit his needs

one fun fact is that PinocchioP actually tried to be a mangaka earlier in his life, this is why he is so good at drawing. He actually tried applying at Shueisha, one of the largest publisher for mangas and he made a vocaloid song about the tough pains of mangakas in Japan, the very frustrating work-life balance of the profession. Edit here is the song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wbmaphf-kJ8 "Weekly Shonen Bye-Bye" might be one of his more personal songs with the very open critic here against the Manga/Anime industry and tbh all of his songs are super sophisticated. I really love how PinocchioP uses his songs for critism to a lot of topics in general. BTW Tim, Giga is not pronounced Jiga just information for the future, it is funny tho

Also for i glad you are evil too, we no longer think it is a mistranslation. PinnochioP is fluent in english so he intentionally chose to translate it that way.

The kagimine rin and len voices are provided by same voice actress Asami shimoda

Pinoccio-P was my introduction to vocaloid music. I’m still really new to the space though, so this might be a great chance to discover some new artists