ELIZABETH ROSE BLOODFLAME-5 Song Study: Mephisto/My Heart Will Go On/Giri Giri/Hallelujah/Die With a Smile
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Be ready for the song request post that will be dropping in a couple days. Get some ideas for Next songs to check out of her! Or anyone else you'd like.
I am truly blown away by the diversity of sounds she uses in her singing. What an impressive vocalist! Thanks for the recommendations everyone, what do we need to check out next from her?
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Hey All! I just joined this community I love your breakdowns Tim. Anyway since I'm new I don't know if it had been mentioned but you asked about the anime "Oshi No Ko" I have watched the anime and it was very good. It really portrays the dark side to all the "glitz and glamor" of being an idol; it's definitely worth checking out if you haven't already.
I'm late 4 months for this but seeing Liz caught you surprise every song is really enjoy to watch.
Mori Calliope did a fundraiser stream, and Liz's hour was a wheel of impressions. She sang songs, and as the wheel spun she had to sing it with that impression. I highly recommend checking it out. ERBis Presley was a treat.
You were trying to describe something about the vibe from even her softer parts of Hallelujah and settled on almost queenly. I usually think queenly fits well given she is a queen , but I normally just think that her vocals just have presence in whatever she does. Also, I would highly recommend checking out more of Mint’s music if you have not yet had a chance. I’d recommend highly Santa Baby, Snake Eater (cover song from Metal Gear Solid), and Break Stuff (cover of a Limp Bizket song).
If you want more information on her background: she is Eileen Montgomery
The Mint / Erb video is not truly live, Erb's part is pre recorded and Mint is singing over it.
Something I haven't seen anyone else mention about Elizabeth Rose Bloodflame, is that she is also an amazing voice actress who can imitate many members of Hololive, other VTubers, and various other voices. She often plays around with voices and accents just for fun (her dropping her "fake" British accent and speaking "proper" American made my jaw drop at how effortlessly she did it.) The reason Mint was so giggly is she was genuinely starstruck and fangirling over Liz's parts of the song.
One of my favorite songs she does on her karaoke streams is This is What You Are by Mario Biondi. She sweeps almost her whole vocal range and gets to do lots of scatting during the instrumental breaks. Her recent birthday live stream is also a phenomenal showcase of her (and other hololive members) singing and performing abilities
People call her by many names ERB (E-R-B), Erb (pronounced herb), and Liz are the most common. In ERB's past persona, she was a VA and I assume was trying to make it her full-time job. This is why there are clips of her imitating other hololive members and a mix of anime covers. In the Giri Giri comment section you noticed comments about a cat. This is a long running joke within the hololive fandom where Zeta is a cat because of her hairstyle looking like cat ears. 50:50 How I've heard The Charismatic Voice say is you can hear it's a fully supported tone.
I'd love to see you do a second one on Liz. She has so many great covers from livestreams. Valarie, pocket full of rainbows, stay with me (mayonaka no door) etc.
Liz is a crazy good vocalist. And she does a ton of karaoke, although much of it is unarchived, so you'd need to catch it live or find a clip someone re-uploaded.
Joined Patreon because of ERB. Tim is one of those guys that's too charismatic and keeps diving into all my rabbit holes....!~ STAHP. By the way, Oshi No Ko would possibly be interesting to you, it's about entertainment culture and has more twists than a slinky.
One of the best things about Liz's karaoke streams is that she never sings the same song the same way. She looooves playing around vocally, even when speaking, and one of my fave streams she's done was when she had a bunch of weird vocal challenges on a wheel that got spun constantly while she did karaoke so she had to repeatedly change how she sang ever couple minutes. It was both REALLY silly and REALLY impressive. (Also hiiii I've been watching your stuff on Youtube for a WHILE now but had to finally make the jump to patreon for the bigger ERB breakdown)
Also, one of the things Liz has said in the past was that the best piece of advice she ever received was that every performance is a gift to the audience. It's something she's clearly taken to heart not just with her singing but with everything she does. ERB is genuinely one of the most incredible performers in Hololive hands down, she always goes all in.
Liz doesn't have any original songs yet (we're all holding out hopes though--she's been quite busy lately, so she might be cooking something behind our backs), but she often dominates the Group songs she's in to where they almost *feel* like they're sort of her song. The Justice group songs Above / Below and Renegade both show her off really well, and even in the Ensemble songs with all of EN, like Odyssey and All For One, she still stands out--often paired with the other contenders for best Holo EN singers. I'd strongly recommend looking for any of the duets she's done with Nerissa Ravencroft--those two are almost certainly the most well-trained singers in Hololive English.
LIZ and ERB are usually used interchangeably but generally in casual conversation talents refer to her as ERB (pronounced like Herb without the H).
17:45 if the lyrics is popping up word by word like that it means it's auto recognition + auto translation so it's very inaccurate
I really enjoy Liz's singing and she has such a playful and fun personality to go along with it. Not exactly music related but Liz also does some insanely accurate vocal impressions and theres a couple of compilations people have made of her imitating characters and even other hololive members. So much so that the community calls her a skinwalker which is honeslty accurate to a degree at this point.
in the future if you ever react to tokoyami towa, then youll most likely get reccomended a song that Hakka did a cover for.. i highly suggest to give both versions a listen, as Hakka provided a completely different angle to the song, My Roar.
He's done a couple Towa song reactions that you should definitely check out! +1 to a reaction of My Roar and Hakka's cover of it, the contrast to how they each tackled the song is so cool to me
I have a problem. How NOT to fall in love with all this amazingly talented Vtubers? :-(
Liz is such a powerful vocalist, and she has so much control over her voice. And the most amazing thing is most of the time, unless it's a produced music video or 3d performance she is singing that way LIVE. She just goes for it, it's amazing. As a singer I find it slightly intimidating to be honest but that just goes to show how much room I have to grow And thanks for the reassurance on the single song deep dives! Keep doing what you're doing, I look forward to whatever you have planned
The most common criticism I see of Liz is that she tends to overdo it with her power, but I think that is perfectly fine. Karaoke is meant to be about having fun and letting loose. I see it as sparring in combat sports. You’re supposed to have fun and try things that you know you would never try in a real match, or in her case a recording, but I think that’s where the fun lies. Getting to see the girls with raw vocals and just letting loose and having fun with it. Unfortunately, one of my favorite vtuber Nerissa Ravencroft has said the pressure from fans for her to do karaoke perfectly is why she doesn’t do it as often unless there’s another person there so she can have fun with it.
Thank you for the reaction, Tim! I’m happy you finally get to know more of her singing and her monster range. You should definitely check out her 2026 3D Birthday Live at some point, it’s ridiculously fun. It has a lot of 80s era MTV throwbacks too! Hopefully by the time you react to her next, she has full originals out.
FearNoFish answered the question about the logistics of this particular duet recording, but there actually have been duets done without prerecording, and as far as I am aware it operates like this: the non-streaming member plays and sings along with the karaoke track over Discord (while deafened to not get thrown off by the other singer), with the streaming member singing along with that.
Regarding the Mint Fantome x ERB song, it's actually a bit of smoke and mirrors. ERB (along with the other guests from this particular stream) pre-recorded their parts and sent them to Mint. Then Mint syncs them up with the karaoke and sings live. So in this particular case, ERB is not live singing, only Mint.
Joined in a heartbeat when I saw you'd be checking out Liz's singing! I love how you provide professional remarks on the vocals while also enjoy and appreciate the performances. Liz is charming in a way that not only she is a beast of a vocalist, she always seem to be having so much fun as she sings too and I love that about her. So a little background if you are interested, Liz has yet to have an original song (technically she did release a teaser version of Salt Born, which is an original song for her role play where she plays as Eliza, so it's more an Eliza song than a Liz song if that makes sense), but given how she's always busy I'm sure she has multiple music projects in the work that we could look forward to! Also for the performance with Mint, it was a karaoke stream celebrating the debut of Mint's 3.0 model, and all the guests performances were pre-recorded and Mint sang alongside the recordings so it wasn't as hard to sync up. Very recently Liz did a birthday stream which was technically a concert, with a theme of 80s songs. She performed with many of her JP senpais and not only it was super fun to watch, others are also amazing singers, highly recommended if you're interested!
Thank you for having a dedicated reaction to ERB, she really deserves it. It really irked me that almost every youtuber reaction I've seen on VTubers, they only knew of ERB indirectly from Ironmouse, where she's just there assisting or backup vocals. ERB is such an amazing singer, but she never really puts herself in the spotlight, she just having fun singing live karaokes and roleplaying most of the time. Believe it or not Tim, she actually doesn't even have a proper original song yet...every single one of her colleagues who are objectively weaker singers all have originals. Some food for thought. Just to clarify for the Maid Mint duo, ERB's section is pre-recorded. It is a common thing VTubers do for birthday streams where they pre-record themselves singing and send it to said birthday person who will then sing along with live (it's just easier for scheduling). However, iirc ERB never knew how to sing that song before so she learnt it in 1 day before submitting. Also yes you can call her Liz, if you call her ERB(my preferred way), you should say it like Herb but without the H.
Hey there! Not trying to tone police but I think there's probably a better way to say that "it's crazy ERB doesn't have a full original song" without comparing her to her colleagues like you did above.
If you want another legitimately amazing Mephisto cover, definitely check out Amane Kanata's live cover of it! Another member to check out is Nerissa Ravencroft, also of Hololive English. She has a new original song called Blue World (with Shoji Meguro of Persona fame), and she's choir-trained compared to ERB's jazz. If you want context or more info on Nerissa, feel free to message me!
He's done a few reactions to Nerissa, I agree that she deserves her own in-depth video though. Personally I'd love to see him check out her Birdbrain cover
Commenting again now that I've finished. If you want to check out others from ERB, her birthday livestream as others have commented is great. My personal recommendations if you want to see other collaborations she's been a part of would be her Yona Yona Dance cover (includes Hololive JP, ID, as well as Holostars JP and EN members!) or her cover of Stay With Me with Octavio of Holstars EN!
So Mint was singing live, but Liz wasn’t able to make it to her karaoke stream and sent her part of the song to mint and was winging it live on stream!
You cannot go wrong with ERB, I do hope you check out her birthday live stream she did that some of the others mentioned you should look at. Not only was it just a great 80's style throwback, but not only is Liz amazing as always, but the people she sings with are also all fantastic.
So, to answer your question about the logistics of her singing with Mint, Liz wasn't singing live. Mint asked Liz beforehand to record her part on a greenscreen and send her a video, which Mint was then able to load into her streaming software and sing along, which is why there wasn't any real interaction between the two. Its a neat trick to be able to sing with people across the globe without having to deal with latency, scheduling, etc. (i think she sang with 5 others in total during that stream from various places around the world) Another fun note is that Liz actually didn't know the song beforehand. Mint asked to sing it with her so Liz learned and recorded it specifically for this performance.
It was also a soft test run for how Mint set up her live concert.
Only through Mephisto at the time of typing this but ERB has phenomenal vocal range! One of my favorite things about her is how much she collaborates with other talents, she loves to pull others in to share her spotlight. Fun little tidbit - Hakka did a cover of IDOL before Liz debuted, so with Mephisto they've covered the opening and ending themes for season 1 of Oshi no Ko!
I think you would be blown away by Queen Bee, the original singer of Mephisto.
You should check out some holostars songs sometimes. They have some really good singers also.
Doing a song study of any of the JP side holostars would be cool to see! For EN side Holostars a song study of Axel, Octavio, or Hakka would be great too.
To the dismay of the rosarians, We have yet to have a full original song by Liz. We hope to see one this year, hopefully either before or during the US HoloEN concert. You best believe we will make you react to it once it arrives.
Oshi no ko anime revolves around the japanese idol industry. We have asked to to check out OP 1 'idol' for a few months.
If you want to do a single song react to mephisto by Queen bee there is a first take version. It will be great. https://youtu.be/KhzP7Qv0YlQ
Holostars is the male vtuber only branch of cover corporation and a sister branch of hololive. They have mulitple great singers aswell ,Hakka is an excellent metal vocalist
