Kingdom: Legendary War Episode 2 (part 2 of 2) Ikon + BTOB

oh btw if u love a vocal group u might like tvxq (the mc's group) they used to be a 5 members group all of them could sing

youre looking at the winner of korean hiphop rapper from show me the money survival show sir hahahah bobby was so damn underestimated because he is an idol in that show and ended up being the winner

Wait, I love Melissa Benoist!

You are correct, the behind the scenes for each group is planned/staged. The producers of the shows were able to tell them what songs they could perform, so Btob had actually planned to do one of their punk rock style songs amd got told they had to perform Missing You. The age thing is more because of injuries. Minhyuk amd Peniel both have disk issues caused by their earlier career.

I'd love to see you watch the uncut performance but still go back and watch the version with reaction cuts. Some of them are really fun! Think of it as getting to know them more than performance viewing. When thinking of how much work goes into this you should keep in mind Korea's culture of overworking - even in school. Idols often work around the clock for days or a week with barely any sleep. San once said ATEEZ got 20 days off per year. Total. No weekends. For example these episodes shot about every two weeks for 30 hours straight. Plus during this ATEEZ had a comeback (shooting music shows 6 days a week for at least two weeks) AND four members of ATEEZ and two members of SF9 were filming the drama Imitation at this time.

Many things I think about this episode. 1. Even though I prefer watching the performances separate from the show for the first time, I WOULD like for you to still go back adn watch that part from the show, it feels like we missed a part of the "story" if that makes sense, I haven't watched all of the show so I had to go and watch it by myself to catch up cause I didn't wanna miss what they said during that period. 2. Secondly, when you read my comment from the previous episode you seemed a bit lost about the information I was saying about The Boyz. Just to be clear, all my comments are about the episode I just watched in that case about questions and things you asked during it, like who was The Boyz Leader? If they had a main city like New York or LA, etc... 3. You watched the iKON performance, commented on Bobby and on CHAN and then randomly stopped and went back to the episode, I was waiting on your comments on June's voice and I couldn't get them. Is there a reason for that? Were you not planning on analizing it and just did a bit or... I am confused about it. You talked about Bobby's voice and pop style and hip hop, then about the breathy tone of Chan and all this and I was so on board when you randomly left that and went back to the episode, I don't really know what happened there sorry if this bothers you, I was just a bit confused. 4. Where do I request for new artists? In this general post I requested a couple things but I cannot go on discord for several reasons and I dont have friends in the community to ask to vote for those artists, I see in youtube a lot of people requests the things I am requesting but here it's mostly STAYS and VTUBERS. 5. I don't like VTUBERS and I love Stray Kids but I think only catering to these two big groups at times leaves me a bit out, I feel like I have no power in the community and no right to be heard or to request anything really. Sorry for the rant, I love kpop in general (male groups mostly) and I watch and love all of kingdom, I would love for the STAYS to do the same instead of just waiting for Stray Kids, but oh well. You are great and love your reactions and analysis, I just wish I could have any minimal say on anything but I don't think I do so I just go and watch the things that maybe luckily someone "respected" requested and I happened to like. Yeah... I felt a bit out of place for this reason.

If, for each episode of yours you're only really reacting to 2-3 performances, I think it ACTUALLY really breaks up the flow switching back and forth from the show to the performance videos (and there's already breaks bc of the commercials). If you really are interested in watching it "as a show", I don't see any issue just watching the edited performances with the other groups reactions and the just going back to the performance videos at the end (especially if its only 2 or so of them). Its also nice to see groups rooting/being fans of other groups

haha yeah.....in korean we tend to sometimes take english words and just use them improperly (by their strict definition) and make it our own. That's the case with the word "service". In korean, "service" is known as something that you give as a free add on or a token of appreciation (so if you're ever in a korean restaurant, often times the waiter will bring by a dish and offer it for free and call it "service")

the difference between Seoul and Busan dialects (or 'satoori') is a combo of different vowel pronunciation, different emphasis on syllables, different movement of the sentence (whether the sound rises or lowers), and sometimes just wholesale different words. Busan in particular has a very famous sentence which roughly translates to "that guy's last name is Ga?" but it's literally said "GA ga...ga ga ga?"

I have a big birthday next week too! Happy earlier birthday twinss :) ill be 21 on the 20th

CANT WAIT for the BtoB killing voice

i'm so excited to watch your reaction to BTOB killing voice! the full group is in KV.

Happy upcoming birthday Tim! "You shouldn't call the competition for advice!" From what I've seen later, they DO razz each other a little bit and mislead the other teams. BUT as with everything on this show it all feels very playful and not sincerely cutthroat. They're all having fun, and it's common for kpop idols to support each other even if they aren't from the same company (I'm pretty sure Bang Chan just went to a BTS concert and gushed about it on his personal social app 😂) I always assumed they had the 1-2 weeks to work on each one. They do have a behind/vlog on Stray Kids channel for their performances so you can get an idea of the work going in (and I think those have the "real" behind the scenes vibe you're looking for). I don't know what's normal for music production but I've heard how fast Stray Kids can work so it never seemed crazy to imagine them planning a remixed performance in a week, especially since a lot of these songs have choreography they can pull from. "I hope you all dance regularly" I would love to but I don't know how 😭 I'm a beast at Beat Saber does that count? Oh man this iKON performance SLAPS. Put a nasty beat in any song and I'm sold. BTOB isn't really my style but you can't deny the strong vocals. If I remember right, I think next week's video will have my favorite performance from Kingdom. VERY excited. Counting down the days.

the new songs are the finale of the finale of the show! the last mission was to make a new song to perform so until there it's not really gonna be "new" stuff but since they all always kept it interesting it's still great!.

So fun for me to rewatch Kingdom again with you. I first watched it in 2022 when I became Atiny, and loved it.

sadly with kpop younever know how much is staged/ real but i do feel like this could kinda be possible i still remember that for some skz perfromancesthey even had staff joining in on the discussion and based off the outfits and location i think you coukd also say that they did the placement reactions and song discussion the same day so probably pretty soon after the episodes aired? But well it could also have been made to just look like that and we'll prob never know for sure

I know you don't like the reactions in the performance for first watch but I would love it if you watched it twice, once with the reactions because some of them are very cute and funny! MEMES have been born from these reactions 😂

Ikon fans are called Ikonics. If you wanted to see more of Ikon they have a 'killing verse' which is like killing voice but more focused on rappers. They have some very catchy songs!

I would suggest you first see the whole performance (without the other's reaction) and just go back to the episode and see the performance again with the other's reaction afterward because their commentary during the performance do gives you some extra info/background/insight into the songs which I think will add to the viewing experience for this show. Also, is it just me or the editing for the whole performance (ones without the other's reaction or commentary) feels a bit off. I think the audio is not syncing with the video well.

Some info about BTOB: - BTOB stands for Born to Beat and its fandom is Melody (you need both Beat and Melody to make a song). - Before their debut, they were trained to be a band (all of them can play instruments) as well as an acrobat and dance team. But after they gain recognition for their healing ballads, their title songs focus more on vocal and emotion (still have a lot of upbeat songs on their albums' B-side though) - Changsub and Eunkwang are prominent musical actors in S.Korea. Changsub has an ongoing musical while shooting for Kingdom, hence he got sick while performing for Round 2 - BTOB has 4 very strong but distinct vocalists (2 were in military during Kingdom), so their songs have a lot of layering, harmonization and adlibs. I can't wait to see their Killing Voice with you. - Changsub is a vocal teacher too and he has his own academy while Eunkwang (one of the best vocalist in k-pop in my opinion) is still taking vocal lessons until now to keep improving his techniques When it comes to BTOB, there are too many things I would like to recommend (group and solo stuffs). They have been to a lot of singing shows too (Immortal Songs, Lee Mujin Service, Begin Again, It's Live) but I think we'll start with the Killing Voice and go from there. 😁

If I'm not mistaken, each round will be aired over 2 weeks, so they have around 2 weeks to prepare for each round instead of just 1 week. Most of the groups here have members actively involve in composing and writing songs for their group. In BTOB, it would be Minhyuk (did sword dancing here), Hyunsik (in military during Kingdom) and Ilhoon (leaves the group in 2020 but still in touch and hangs out with them).