💥K-POP: Kingdom Legendary War Episode 1 (part 2 of 2)-Stray Kids/The Boyz/iKON

Yeah, the result section is painful. Honestly, I wouldn't be mad if you skipped it. The way they did the scores in this show is wack anyway

Ah please react to iKON they're amazing 🥺

I have links to the full episodes that (I believe) don't have commercials! I've re-arranged my ATEEZ playlist for you - Full commercial-free episodes followed by the "good" performance vid of every stage ATEEZ performed. After that are the cut-away versions and fancams and other stuff you won't be interested in. https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrYtmC4av4LIXZCbLK6V7WMyOLlWPeXcA&si=k9HL77ssFjKii2YK

For the YouTube full performances, unfortunately, you're gonna have a hard time finding any Stray Kids performances without the cuts to the reactions from the other groups. They were deleted from YouTube for some reason. The others are okay, I believe it was only SKZ that was affected. Also, in the first round, they were to choose a song that they won 1st place on a music show. This is why SF9 said they only had two songs to choose from when iKON had a whole bunch. It can take several albums/releases before a group wins a show, and smaller, more unknown groups will have few or none at all. Winning is based on Sales and Audience voting, so if they aren't popular, it can be hard to win, even if the song is good. The criteria for each round can be hard to follow, so here is a summary: Intro Stage - Each group had 100 seconds to show the other groups/world what they could do to a song in which they won #1 on a music show. Round 1 - To the World - Choose one of their songs that they believe shows the worldld/non-fans who they are. Round 2 - Re-born - They will pair up with another group and perform each other's songs. Round 3 - No Limit - In this round, there are 2 smaller rounds. Again, they will choose other groups to perform with, this time groups of three. Round 1a is separated into 3 parts, in which there will be three performances from each team: Vocal, Rap, and Dance. Then each team will go back to their group and perform individually again, but this time they don't have any limits. They can have guest performers, perform a song from a group not on the show, etc. Final Performance - Each group is asked to contribute /debut a new song that was pre-released and then performed at the finale. I highly recommend that you try to skip watching the last minute or so and skip the intro to each episode if you don't want to be spoiled...and get ready to see the suspenseful (and repetitive) results because if you thought American shows were bad...Korean shows are like 10x worse. And like someone else said on the last episode, pay no attention to the voting results, they'll just make you mad.

and normally, MANY MANY MANY korean competition/survival shows are structured like you just described where contestants perform right in front of the judges and get instantly evaluated. Queendom/Kingdom didnt have AS MUCH of that for a variety of reasons but many competition shows thats actually the normal setup. But get used to drawn out result/ranking announcements.....that is a STAPLE of korean competition shows lol

Yeah, all the other seasons had audiences during the final performances or fans during some of the side stories (even Queendom 2 which was at the tail end of Covid so there were audiences there all masked up but they couldnt cheer out loud). Queendom 1 and Queendom Puzzle had full out audiences that could scream

the editing can take some time to get used to with these competition shows (actually, just korean variety in general). But, these shows have a LOT of little side things they do like rankings based off of fan vote or little side competitions within the larger competition). But to kind of clearly explain it...... before this show, there was a sort of "Triple A" or "relegation league" competition show between groups that weren't quite as popular/experienced as the groups on this show and the winner (the Boyz) won a ticket to this main competition show so they actually won it. What you saw for a split second was a fan vote the show did asking fans who they think would win the show and it was in THAT list that the Boyz werent in the Top 3 (also, there is a LOT of dialogue that goes on that doesn't get subbed and a LOT of info put up in text that also doesn't get subbed often) Editing in these shows takes a little time to get used to for a non native speaker, its kind of unfortunate that SO MANY groups basically were all dressed in black/dark blues bc I could see a person who has no experience with all the groups getting confused

Im genuinely impressed that you had the patience to not just fast forward parts of that ending😂

I believe the future performances are longer. These intro stages were just quick little presentations!

Yes please do a quick breakout of the performances! I think its fun watching it with the reactions atleast once but it does take away from the performances a bit.

so I'm pretty sure for most of these mnet took the ones without the reactions down i know at some point all were down but fans just reuploaded them so some came back but not for all :/ there is a full cam ver where no reactions are included but you can see the camera time walk around since its pretty much a fixed camera so quite some of the original idea of the performance gets lost

about your question idols go on music shows to promote their songs by performing them after release depending on how long you promoteit could be a couple weeks in this time their songs and those of others also promoting compete for the nr 1 spot... I'm not that much into it myself but it can be difficult for smaller/different groups to win these or some shows are even welllknown for being hard to win since they only invite already more wellknown groups! Most of these groups now hadn't had a ton of songs that won so not a lot of choices to choose from! e.g SF9 with only 2 but IKON with 7

Thank you for the second part! I would like that the episodes were not divided in 2 but I am not sure if it would be too much or not. I don't know if you read this on my previous episode comment but this was the answer to one of your qustions during last episode regarding the height difference between SF9 and the others: A couple of members like Dawon or Chani (Extremely known actor) are average height, but they have several members close to 1.90CM (6'2" to 6'3"), that would be Rowoon, Inseong, Zuho, Jaeyoon and Taeyang. As a group they are notoriously taller than the others (Stray Kids are known to be shorter than the average KPOP Group idol so you can imagine in comparison with SF9 it is really obvious. (Felix for example is 5'7") and he's not the shortest in Stray Kids.

Yay more Kingdom! One thing that IS consistent with American reality TV is that they do seem to play up the tiniest mistakes for the drama 😂 I feel like kpop idols are constantly having to wrangle their little mic pack things when they go flying out of their pocket but they are acting like it was the end of the world. Also just a note since you mentioned the 100-second performances: only the intro performances are 100 seconds. The ones that come later are longer and more involved with set design and really intense choreography/camera movement/props etc. It's a whole production. The normal version of MIROH is great but it IS different! They do a lot of remixing, re-arranging, adding dance breaks and props and pyrotechnics and stuff for this show so even songs you "know" will be very different. So exciting. Unfortunately the only time I've seen some of the Kingdom performances without the cuts were on MNET compilation videos or the "full cam" which is kind of from a weird third-person view. They really want you to watch their entire show, I think 😂 DO THEY REALLY NOT TELL YOU WHO WON THE INTRO ROUND UNTIL EP 2? That should be illegal.

Also, Felix and Chan speak english with each other because they’re both Australian. It’s their first language! Chan does it more than Felix though (which, I wish Lix did it more bcs I really love his accent 😂)

Every time I see this I find myself loving to see Changbin and Wooyoung’s interactions. For those that don’t know, they’re childhood friends.

Also I know that with copyright stuff its not easy to put something kingdom related on YT but maybe you should still consider to do it again the way you did last week. I just think Kingdom will be the most fun when we have fans from all groups here😊

If there is time I think it would be absolutly amazing to breakout the performances the way you did with the other three!! You knew Miroh from Lollapalooza but this Version was very diffrent. In general 3Racha had noticeably a lot of fun doing remixes and stuff during Kingdom😆

To explain the Changbin, wooyoung Interaction at the beginning a bit more. Those two are friends and born in the same year so they are probably used to being very casual with each other. However in the group context skz is considered a senior of ateez bc they debuted earlier

Thursdays are officially my favorite day! I’m so excited for Part 2. The Stray Kids survival show follows the members as they trained, competed, and were evaluated to earn their place in the final lineup—showcasing their talent, growth, and determination throughout the process. The song they performed is MIROH: https://youtu.be/Dab4EENTW5I?si=cxteFqUWXYB9XTjD Also dropping this behind-the-scenes clip of their performance just for fun: https://youtu.be/XuhtNou9fLo?si=a8NHNlqiWgeNDB13

I posted this commentary on YouTube, but I'll post it here too. the Korean language has many honorifics. Sunbae - a person with more experience, e.g., in a job or industry. Hoobae - a person with less experience, e.g., in a job or industry. Hyung - a term used by a younger guy to an older guy. Noona - a term used by a younger guy to an older girl. Oppa - a term used by a younger girl to an older guy. Unnie - a term used by a younger girl to an older girl. Maknae - the youngest I'm watching the first part again and the word ATEEZ used for BTOB was translated as "senior" to 맏형 (mathyung). 맏 - the oldest 형-hyung (explained above). However, most often when something is translated as 'senior', it is 'sunbaenim'.