Hazbin Hotel Season 2 Episode 5
Woah...WHAT AN EPISODE!!! Soo much to unpack.
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Regarding the song we're making, I think doing slowed-down hopeful chords after the bouncy funny opening would add a nice contrast, and that mirrors the fluidity of tempo changes in the songs of the show. The whole show is an emotional roller-coaster like that so I think our song could be too! ❤️
The live performance of Vox Populi literally changed my life. Jeremy is INSANEEE
I love Lucifers part of Vox Populi. It gives me heavy Jack Black vibes, and the connection that rock has a history of being the Devil's Music, he definitely owned it.
I love this episode! I love these songs because of how amazing they are. "Vox DEI" is a very intimidating song. I love the visuals in this song.
I’m okay with you reading Mike’s comments, he shares good stuff.
We’re making a POLKA????
Lucifer loves polka, so we're on genre :D
Sinful Saturday is my fave day of the week.
This is my favorite episode! So Jeremy Jordan is also in a band called Age of Madness, that rock side to him is just one of his many things he does. This song was loved so much they released it by itself Also I would like to say, that this season was recorded two years ago. Its just super coincidental that it was also relevant. Also Vox Populi and Vox Dei are a combination. Vox Populi mean the People's voice in latin, and Vox Dei the Voice of God, they go hand in hand. also underrated I know Val is horrible, but I love how he squeaks when he is angry, and you can hesr them more clearly this season.
adding a cool animation tidbit, that scene with Vox and the shark took a very long time to animate it is one of the most complex scenes in the season
To be fair, animation IS expensive 😂
•"We're seeing more of Charlie's Vaggie's relationship"- you paused right when Vaggie was giving Charlie "the eyes 🫦" and then unpaused and talked through the eyebrow wiggle... •Sera and Emily are the same rank as they are the two halves of of the "Sera"ph"Im" (Emily sounds better as a name than "Imily") •"Captive Alastor" in a rolling chair is comedic gold ✨️ •alot of fans on tiktok and YouTube think Lucifer's part in "Vox Populi" was the best part •You can see during the rally, Vox flexing his skills as a former "cult leader" (referenced in episode 1)/ "make hell great again" yes, yes they went there •it always aggravated me that the angels never considered SHOWING THE REDEEMED SIR PENTIOUS if not in person, then at least through a portal
Okay! Buckle up Tim, from here on out it's a mad rush and to the end and each episode only gets better than the last! Glad to see you paused on the Duckbill, and already so many great comments. My bits, in Bad with Us, you get to hear and meet a bunch of overlords, Zeezi (the big dinosaur gal), Prick (The pumpkin headed guy) & Hatchet (the almost imp looking guy fighting Prick), Maestro, and of course Carmine and Zestial. You also meet (again) Zeezi's second the dino from the pilot. He's still voiced by James Monroe Ingleheart (Zestial and Ozzy) Hatchet is Patrick Stump's other role, so it allows him singing in more songs! The two Vox songs are titled VOX POPULI and VOX DEI respectively, and well, yeah, they aren't subtle. A neat bit that was a misunderstanding, and likely fell under the radar for a lot, when Vox is saying he's the vision and Val replies "I have Vision" Vox jokes back "Sure you do." Vox's line was not meant as a cut down, it was a joke about Val's bad eye-sight. But Alastor's words had already started to upset Val, so it was taken as negatively as possible, that Val didn't have plans for the future. I adore all the gifts from the other Deadly Sins, but that had already been mentioned. CAN'T WAIT for next week, a couple of my favorite songs of the season coming up!
In the scene with Lucifer you can see in the background of his room a gift from every Sin: Asmodeus give him an apple shape gag, Leviathan a perfume, Sloth the plushie, Satan a cowboy hat, Bee give him candies and of course Mammon send a bribe. All because they want Lucifer to come back. It's adorable, and I love every Helluva Boss reference. Also, it's funny that Luci talked about the Great Quacksby because his voice actor Jeremy Jordan was the protagonist in the Great Gatby on broadway
Also, when Vox sang "I'm the furor" during Vox Dei, the first few times I thought he sang "I'm the Führer" which, well... It kinda still fits
And it was today that I learned that he's not saying Führer
This episode is incredible, they way they were able to portray the tactics of populism is so clever! Vox is instilling a clear "us vs. them" or "ingroup vs. outgroup" mentality in hell's population and in doing so does the same for Charlie, her friends and heaven. Notice also how Vox essentially claims responsibility for "their recent hit against heaven" aka Charlie and the gang fighting off the last extermination, despite the fact that he Did. Not. Even. Participate. He literally watched it on TV from his tower, safe and sound. But even though this should really have been a plus for Charlie, he used it as an instrument for his own propaganda. And there is so much more, but I don't want to start a whole essay here ;D One funny thing I noticed though while watching other people's reactions: Vox's probably most devastating blow to the gang was the devision we see at the end of the episode, where everyone starts blaming each other. During that scene, some group reactors actually started doing the same, debating if Charlie was more at fault, or Vaggie or Lucifer. And during that whole fight they fail to see the point, just as Charlie and co. do in the show: The only one at fault is Vox. He is the one who spins it, who creates fear and anger in the population. And he is the one driving a wedge between our heros. Just magnificent!
Hands down my favorite episode of the series! I still get goosepumps everytime I hear Vox Dei.
I was so excited for you to hear Bad With Us because it really showcases Christian Borle's (Vox's) vocal abilities and his versatility as a singer. If you ever wanted to do a deep dive on him, I've got some suggestions for examples of his musical theatre work you could look into, he's really very, very good. Jeremy Jordan actually sings in a rock band called Age of Madness. I haven't checked out their music yet, but I've heard they're pretty good. His performance in this episode is very cool. Of course, here we also get to see Vox stealing other people's ideas again because when he comes in with the last number, Vox Dei, it has the same melody as Lucifer's part in Vox Populi. He also copies Sera's angelic form with all the eyes as part of his iconography here. A surprising number of people came out of this episode saying "Vox is right, though". Which, yeah, that's what fascists do, they take a little grain of truth and then they hook you with that so you'll accept their lies. Composer Sam Haft had to make a long video for social media explaining the themes of Vox Populi and Vox Dei, despite the fact that they really aren't very subtle (Vox sings "I am the furor" but you are very much meant to hear the other word that sounds like, which was used about a certain Austrian dictator in Germany in the 30s and 40s). I believe Sam tweeted the line "I know authors who use subtext and they're all cowards" (which I think is from a movie?) just to underline his point that this really was an in your face fascist rally. Make no mistake, Vox is a really bad guy, and you'll get to see just how bad in the next few episodes. Keep in mind Alastor's line from Don't You Forget (reprise): "I knew you'd need me here to be your unwilling audience when you lose your marbles in Act 3." Alastor is clever, though, jaming a wedge between Vox and the other Vees by implying that if he just relies on other people less Alastor may finally respect him. Edited to add: Just because Vox is a villain doesn't mean Charlie and the angels are in the right in this episode, though. Apologising for genocide with gift baskets is tone deaf at best, and Sera played right into Vox's hands and gave him just the soundbite he needed when she told him sinners like him were the reason she approved the exterminations. Absolutely everyone fucked up in this episode in a big way, which is also part of the reason why it's so good.
I would argue on Alastor. His worldview is very much "relying on others makes you weak" I think his goal is pumping up Vox, and the wedge is almost accidental. He is constantly going "Is it the best to show you are relying on others' powers?" Vox naturally is collaborative to gain power, Alastor hustles on his own and feels he can't count on anyone else. So this is very much Alastor pushing Vox to conform with HIS world view.
