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April 16, 2026

Pete "Mayor" Buttigieg, with Cory Doctorow

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We're joined this week by friend of the show Cory Doctorow to fix some bread prices and talk about ₱€₸€ "Mayor" ฿U₸₸I₲I€₲. We promise that the way that is typed out will make sense. Anyway, you know him, you probably hate him, but: You could hate him more! So join us, in doing that. Private Pyle lookin ass.

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thank you to actual, factual mayor Leeman Kessler of Gambier, Ohio for sending that in and, we guess, listening to this show???

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Comments (106)

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Tàirneanaich · October 8, 2026

End of Geography Bit reminding me of the „Angkor Wat over Paris“ line from The Great Spy Chase

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a simple rabbit · July 7, 2026

explaining the biden administration to an american: imagine a pizzaburger

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Australian Estuary Pirate · June 29, 2026

Francis Fukuyama failed to kill history, but SOMEBODY is killing geography and I have my suspicions as to who it is...

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Eric Maron · June 25, 2026

You won't be able to restore geography until you destroy the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim.

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Will Caskey · May 29, 2026

I am working through the backlog here and while as a Chicago resident I deeply resent that my entire city hasn't gotten a multipart deep dive, my personal recommendation in US mayors is Luke Ravenstahl, the boy mayor of Pittsburgh. His notable accomplishments included taking a Homeland Security-funded SUV to a concert in Harrisburg and getting hammered in the New Orleans French Quarter while Pittsburgh got buried in snow. Also, right before he decided not to run for reelection he went on a tremendous rant on Facebook snarling about all of his enemies.

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rose johnson · May 1, 2026

You guys heard of buddy cianci. Really funny mayor

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-Kris- · April 29, 2026

Francis Fukuyama's lesser known but more accurate book: The End of Geography

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yep air · April 26, 2026

I'm sure it's been said but AFGHANISTAN DOESN'T SPEAK FUCKING ARABIC

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Ilian Petit · April 23, 2026

1:00:15 I REALLY fucking relate to that. I had a mom who apart from being extremely abusive, pushed me to be a prodigy at everything I'd get into leading to numerous times I had an in on something I was passionate about but not wealthy enough for as well as going to "elite" places I hated only to end up burnt out and with a main character syndrome I had to go to therapy to address

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Sayanne · April 22, 2026

Conceptual slag new username

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Synapsid · April 20, 2026

Whipping out the synthesizer for a Miami item: *perfectly plays the sound of a sad fading-green carpeted room with wood paneling*

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Sarah A Kendall · April 20, 2026

THEY DON'T EVEN SPEAK ARABIC IN THE PART OF AFGHANISTAN HE WAS IN. 1% of the Afghan population speak Arabic, and they generally live at least 150 miles west of where he was. If he was learning languages to help him on his deployment, he'd have learned Dari or Pashto.

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Sarah A Kendall · April 20, 2026

Also i wonder how mutually intelligible northern Afghan Arabic and Somali Arabic are. Those places are not super close to each other.

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Sayanne · April 20, 2026

Add "I ran a pub in Belfast during the troubles" to the implausible deep state back story catalogue

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bookcasequeen · April 20, 2026

Sorry, odd question from someone with occasional audio processing issues, what not-Smiler option is Mattie referring to at about 22:19?

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Arthur Sexcrimes · April 20, 2026

FRANCIS SUAREZ MENTION

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Wirecats · April 19, 2026

Appropriate for Nova to quote Skull Face from Metal Gear Solid V, as Pete "Mayor" Buttegeig is the Revolver " Shalasaska " Ocelot of American liberalism ( mostly for backstabbing every ostensibly progressive project he's signed onto, party for the gay thing )

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beanis · April 18, 2026

peep boopybege

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Iain Standing · April 18, 2026

I still think about Mayor Pete’s “I saw the clock in Harvard Square and stood in awe” and it drives me crazy because the one he’s talking about is a digital clock

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puppygirl · April 18, 2026

1:26:00 Detroit Renaissance center mentioned! another iconic furcon location. the last Motor City for a con I went to was a clusterfuck cuz they double booked us with a Freemason event and a children's volleyball tournament. and to top it all off the elevators which have a maximum capacity of six move at like indoor vomit Comet speeds

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Dylan Roth · April 18, 2026

The costume store bit made me lose my shit

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Motive11331 · April 18, 2026

Josh Shapiro has also been trotted out to do the Obama seance

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beatrix · April 18, 2026

is this the podcast's first "gifted kid trauma" mayor?

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SixArmedSweater · April 18, 2026

Ah, so he was one of the fellow Gifted And Talented twerps.

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AbsolxGuardian · April 17, 2026

I was not expecting to hear mention of Eric Flint creator of the 1632verse here. I'm obsessed with that series.

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AbsolxGuardian · April 17, 2026

There is a strange feeling to hear a profile of a terrible person who is that way because of flaws you once had. There but for the grace of Gd go I, I suppose.

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Josephine · April 17, 2026

I don't like that there's a world where wes streeting and Pete "mayor" buttigieg have a "PM meets president" picture

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Aoife Rowan · April 17, 2026

that's not a Boston Brahmin accent!

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marcy law · April 17, 2026

Cory doctorow is a crazy pull, used to love his "Little Brother" books

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Vanessa P · April 17, 2026

He's always talking on his newsletter about NGNM being his new favourite podcast it's not a huge surprise he'd be a guest at some point

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Brian Danger Hicks · April 17, 2026

The episode art just reinforced my belief that the military needs to go back to the button-down shirt with necktie tucked-in look.

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Aster C · April 17, 2026

I'm so stoked that y'all are doing live stream tickets! I'll be recovering from top surgery, and what better way to recover than by listening to my three favorite trans women commune with the Mayortaculus 🏳️‍⚧️

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ryan srnka · April 17, 2026

42:50 "He studies PPE at Oxford" My dumb blue collar ass: "why the hell can you study personal protective equipment at Oxford?"

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David Munro · April 17, 2026

I found this podcast via Cory Doctorow , so it's great to have him as a guest. His statement at the end really captures why this is my favourite podcast as well.

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Adam S · April 17, 2026

Wait… speaking Arabic “because Afganistán” doesn’t make any sense. Basically no one speaks Arabic in Afghanistan.

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Syauska · April 17, 2026

Yeah I was under the impression they spoke a dialect of Farsi...

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Brian Danger Hicks · April 17, 2026

Unless he was also a licensed amateur radio operator I'm pretty sure it would've been illegal for Pete to listen to a police scanner in a vehicle

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skedazzle · April 17, 2026

Damn it Nova get your hand off the lathe!! Vance v Buttigieg is such a rancid vibe 🤮

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skedazzle · April 17, 2026

Can't believe you didn't mention his involvement in the infamous caucus app that ratfucked Bernie in the 2016 dem primary

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No Gods No Mayors Podcast · April 17, 2026

We had so much to cover so we wanted to choose elements of his character that weren't quite as known to the broader left wing anti Pete community

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Kat W · April 16, 2026

1:30:00 should have said "let me be queer" smh 😔

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El/Ellie/Eleanor · April 16, 2026

My favorite bit of anti-geography was the Swiss satellite campus of my Alma matter, Virginia Tech. https://stegercenter.vt.edu/ Insanity

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Borangehat · April 16, 2026

My two Pete stories. First, he ran for Chair of the DNC not to actually win, but to promote his name within the Party. He came in third on a ballot behind Tom Perez and Keith Ellison, and "gracefully bowed out". Unfortunately, no one told his devoted campaign volunteers that he was doing this as a PR move, and you could hear the devastation in their voices as he cashed in all their hard work for his reputation. Much later, I encountered him in a hotel lobby and tried to strike up a conversation. He pretended I didn't exist, literally refusing to look at me until one of his staffers took it upon themselves to respond to me on his behalf.

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Will Caskey · May 29, 2026

Oh hey, I was a consultant for that campaign and he also completely blew me off forever afterward.

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etienne · April 16, 2026

Pete disregarded the idea of phasing out Westinghouse brakes because it's a stupid idea and they're actually good brakes and not the problem whatsoever

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YungCereza · April 16, 2026

You met me at a very Maltese time of my life

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Harrison Sanchez · April 16, 2026

Like Nightcrawler!? From NIGHTCRAWLER?1?!?!

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etienne · April 16, 2026

I literally re-read Infinite Jest because of the Trump annexing Canada thing, I'm so glad that ONANTA Québec mentioned

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Angel-of-Deadlifts · April 16, 2026

It's crazy when you do meet transgenders who were told they had potential in school and are now functioning adults somehow!! They usually got the successful career first then transed their gender, rather than being paralyzed by depression 🤷🏼‍♀️

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skedazzle · April 16, 2026

My take is Pete did not read Dilbert but he did read Doonesbury religiously and kept a detailed notebook of references to look up

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Shiv · April 16, 2026

Is it not canon we are doing Every Mayor in Turn? Really, no Buddy for Giacomo?

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skedazzle · April 16, 2026

Okay so we've got to do something with these people, right? So maybe we construct an advisory board with a strict hierarchy, a ruthless promotion scheme, a metric crapton of awards and medals and banquets and shit something like the Scientology land navy, isolate it from power other than providing VERY IMPORTANT REPORTS and park them in the.... oh shit I think just described a think tank

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beatrix · April 16, 2026

ok, pete buttigieg walking into a hospital and being the only one there that can speak arabic? that's just the scene from Meet Joe Black where brad pitt speaks patois with the old jamaican woman. everything gwan be irie

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Amelia · April 16, 2026

I literally just watched the teacher strike ep of Simpsons LAST NIGHT ✨💫 kismet

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Tory Gordon · April 16, 2026

Almost two decades of podcast listening has led to me, this morning in my bedroom, wondering why tf the name Leeman Kessler is so familiar to me. (He's a featured character named after a listener in the first season of TAZ, if you're like me and feel the world curling in on itself and don't understand why.)

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AbsolxGuardian · April 17, 2026

Man this guy gets around. He really is the podcaster's mayor (and also his personal website lists him as a podcaster and actor, and then mayor in the second paragraph)

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allison c · April 16, 2026

gieg ✅

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Cassandra foretells the doom of Troy, NY · April 16, 2026

My favorite TV show when I was 13 was The West Wing. This is a real there but for the grace of god go I situation

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Callum Davies · April 16, 2026

De-Nosed in Abu Dhabi Disneyland is my favourite Mars Volta album

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archipelago_go · April 16, 2026

one of the reasons i am no longer a high school teacher is because it became clear to me that the administration’s ultimate desire was for me to help turn all the “pleasures to have in class” into zoomer mayor petes. also South Georgia Island mentioned hell yes

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Peevish Giraffe · April 16, 2026

Every pogue took that exact photo of themselves when they were deployed. Taking that photo is the most normal thing mayo Pete has ever done.

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bouteilles de vin et polystyrène · April 16, 2026

Hmm.."alpha wave"... in MIAMI? Surely no connections to JMWAVE..

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Shiv · April 16, 2026

LETS. GET. THAT. BREAD (it’s very expensive now due to my consultant)

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Hatsune Machine Gun Kelly · April 16, 2026

i have also been to the garment district!

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Nicholas Jarvis · April 16, 2026

"You have a lot of potential"... Sounds like a compliment but for the first couple decades of my life no phrase was more cursed.

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Ben Schwabe · April 16, 2026

omg QUIMBY/KENNEDY IS NOT BOSTON BRAHMIN! The Kennedys are upstart new money. Charles Emerson Winchester, as Dr. Doctrow (I assume he has a doctrate, if not then I'm giving him one now. Congrats.) gently suggests, is a Brahmin accent, which was basically dead by the time the Kennedys got famous.

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John Leavitt · April 16, 2026

There are now dead members of my extended family who have always hated the Kennedys for being ghastly grasping new money loudmouths - you want proper Brahmin you need like those Bette Davis movies where she’s a spinster

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Konrad Hansen · April 16, 2026

The story about the kid is very strange bc Arabic isn’t the primary language of Somalia or Afghanistan right?

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Vanessa P · April 16, 2026

I think there's some Arabic spoken in Somalia but it's not the daily language for most people? I was under the impression that Arabic has almost no presence in Afghanistan though, it's mostly Persian and languages from Central Asia right???

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Mechgirl Allie · April 16, 2026

Oh no, that mf could have been american Macron.

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hpntncls · April 17, 2026

He still could be...

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BarFly · April 16, 2026

As a former international relations major and product of the Gifted and Talented (and Dilbert) pipeline this is extremely eerie, like if I had become even more addicted to Good Boy Stickers this might have been me.

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Sword Through Your Window · April 16, 2026

mayor pete’s-a-burger

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NowhereMan661 · April 16, 2026

I wasn't given Dilbert, I was given Bloom County and Calvin and Hobbes. Idk what that says about me.

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SixArmedSweater · April 18, 2026

That Calvin and Hobbes likely saved us both.

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Jon W · April 16, 2026

The Doctor!

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Anthony Schiavo · April 16, 2026

GARMENT DISTRICT MENTIONED

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NowhereMan661 · April 16, 2026

So what I'm getting from this is that Pete Buttugieg is liberal Patrick Bateman. An empty vessel, believing in nothing and being nothing, animated by the forces of the establishment and becoming it's psychotic avatar. 43:30 damn, guess I was right

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Vanessa P · April 16, 2026

apparently everyone always compares Newsom to Bateman. very concerning that there are several who fit the bill. we should look into this

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Vast and Trunkless · April 16, 2026

Assigned Dilbert at Birth.

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Eliza Blackhart · April 16, 2026

Just skip buddy cianci and go directly to Brett Smiley as soon as we finally get him out of office to sate the peoples desire for a Providence Rhode Island Mayor.

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Alan Ma · April 16, 2026

I know these episodes are recorded well in advance, but if I don't get the ladies' take on Albanian Eric Adams soon, I'm going to go feral

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NowhereMan661 · April 16, 2026

The only thing I know about Pete Duttigeig is that Justin Roczniak thinks he's a rat, and that's good enough a judge of character for me.

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William G. Bielski · April 16, 2026

Leeman ‘Ask Lovecraft’ Kessler is a mayor?!

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Taylor Warden · April 16, 2026

Yep, he goes by Mayor Lovecraft on social media!

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Elizabeth · April 16, 2026

Thanks ladies. Regret to inform you you’re not ready to learn about Miami University Ohio

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Shiv · April 16, 2026

Elizabeth I am still mad from my first MM Bracket this year, which only taught me about weird schools

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Eve · April 16, 2026

"The drug of getting good grades, for which there are *so* many dealers" hit my psyche like flight 11

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AbsolxGuardian · April 16, 2026

Looked him up, yep it's the same guy. So not only is this a mayor who listens to the show, it's a *podcaster* mayor. The intro of his personal website is insane (// means paragraph break) "Leeman Kessler is a podcaster, actor, and the creator of the web-series Ask Lovecraft and Always Has Been, the Compendium of Weird Ohio. // He is the mayor of Gambier, Ohio since 2020. Find out about his municipal work here. // Listen to his radio show Mondays at 1pm ET" Oh to live a life where being the mayor has second billing

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Moths · April 16, 2026

In a very minor defence of political operators, who certainly don't come out of this episode well, you do need some in politics. The fact that the modern left is almost completely devoid of people who know how to play the game, and has a tendency to cannibalise anyone who shows an ounce of politcal competence, is why everything is currently so shit. Just look at Zohran to see what can be achived with someone with a perfect balance between idealism and shrewdness.

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Vast and Trunkless · April 16, 2026

Comparing Zohran to a McKinsey dweeb is a bit of a stretch.

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Nemo · April 16, 2026

Is it finally time to admit: Montessori makes children TOO confident

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Nemo · April 16, 2026

oh no November just sniped me with the "teachers/peers saying you'll be Prime Minister one day"

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BarFly · April 16, 2026

Holy shit, the double tap of a real mayor radio bumper and the Miami club Rawhide cover. Sam, you've done it again.

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Nina · April 16, 2026

babes, correct me if i’m wrong but women can still do misogyny not you 3 though, you’re angels

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Lilith Dyke · April 16, 2026

VERMONT MENTION!!!!!!!!!! 802 forever baby

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Kenny Allums · April 16, 2026

The sick little rat faced freak has already listened to this,

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Vast and Trunkless · April 16, 2026

Hearing the skittering of little rat paws.

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Dragonback Lancer · April 16, 2026

To stop November from being sad I think we need to ensure she gets to storm the MI6 building at some point in her life

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NowhereMan661 · April 16, 2026

That's like saying we need to get an addict their favorite drug; it's not healthy.

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Vanessa P · April 16, 2026

He looks like such a chud in the picture omg

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AnnoyingSpanishGuy · April 16, 2026

Dark Souls 3 fucking world geography.

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Amelia Maciorowska · April 16, 2026

The way I screamed when I heard the bumper lmaaooo

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beatrix · April 16, 2026

Peter Booty JeJ

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beatrix · April 16, 2026

it's taking everything in my body to keep myself from just filling this comment section with more bits on his name. Pistol Pete Mayoravich

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Eve · April 16, 2026

Ur getting me through a dentist appointment girls thank u🧎‍♀️