Slime 4x20 - From You, 2000 Years Ago
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My understanding of the time-loop; There is only one Chloe. She is summoned into the world as a child, around the same time as Rimuru's reincarnation. She grows up, (meets Rimuru,) the story progresses, etc. She obtains the mask. Hinata dies. Her Time Traveller ability activates and sends her back (with Hinata's soul, for whatever reason,) 2000 years into the past. She becomes the legendary hero of the past, who defeats Veldora. She saves and trains Shizue, and gives her the mask. She is later sealed away, and fades into history. This still doesn't explain the current/future Chronoa, or the spirit which possesses Chloe and transfers memories from her past loop - Which leads me to one simple explanation; At some point after she's completed all her meaningful deeds, after living well beyond a human lifespan, her soul, (or, a spirit manifested from her soul via her Time Traveller ability,) leaves her body. Power, when wielded for the right cause, is righteous. Without restrain or purpose, however, it begets only destruction. The power of a legendary hero, once wielded to achieve peace and salvation, now exists without that conscience, without those morals controlling it. Raw, destructive power, with no control, takes on her alias, as Chronoa. The soul, a spirit of time, jumps forwards towards a more familiar era, when Chloe was first summoned. There, it comes to possess Chloe, thereby cementing the loop. Veldora's defeat, leading to him being sealed away, is a crucial part of Rimuru's rise to power. This was only achieved by future-Chloe (in the past). In turn, Rimuru brought young Chloe into the setting in which she was possessed by the spirit of her past self. If not for this possession, she would've simply died. This could create something of a paradox, but there are plenty of speculative elements which lead this to be a non-issue.
youtube is just being dumb fuckers
this episode brought context to so many things. this was a fantastic episode. loved the back stories. also the rage in veldoras eyes after his friend (rimuru) is killed as he is released from rimurus body after he dies kinda explains the rampage of veldora 😱😱😱. hmm, that kinda makes you think upon the earlier episodes as well.
Time for Doctor Who
The way I understood it, everything that happened upto this point still happens. Now we're just seeing how we got to that point.
(Not so) Fun fact: when Rimuru died the failed time loops, Milim also goes on a rampage out of grief of losing her Bestie-Forestie 🥲
I deleted my last comment cause I realised it's probably a spoiler sorry haha but the timeline can be confusing but it is done in a great way we get answers we wanted we see some stuff we wanted and most importantly it's not time wasted they use every bit they can and probably left clues or answers with people for future help i dunno so don't qoute me on that haha glad you're finally getting answers
They are not changing the future, everything we watched is a result of this 2000-year journey.
I’ve been excited for this era of slime for a while, as this is by and large the show that got me into anime as a genre. I was spoiled on a few aspects, though that was due to my impatience and inability to access the manga/LN, so I already knew about Chloe time traveling. But seeing it is far more exciting and I don’t know many of the finer details. For example, the entire Mariebel arc was unknown to me. So was Hinata’s death, though I had an inkling ever since E15 or 16… whenever Granville remembers the hero. There’s a scene where a voice interrupts the Hero’s speech and I recognized the voice actor of Hinata. It really confused me, since I couldn’t imagine Slime having a side role for a prominent voice actor. Regardless, I am so hyped to watch episode 21 with you guys and hear about whatever we missed. And the end of this cour must be something special. I can’t wait!!
slimes runs on a linear timeline not like other anime or show that creates branches everytime someone time travels. so we should get back to where we at when chloe jump back in time with the same characters unless chloe do something drastic to change it .
30:23 if Luminus were to welcome Rimuru immediately it would be different. So I assume Chloe would tell her to stay distant to recreate the previous loop as closely as possible.
Was waiting for this so much.
it's the second time i see the flashback, and everytime I can't help to think "everything changed when the fire nation attacked" "but when the world needed him most, he dissapeared"
yeah the eastern empire was too strong back then. But never oversee. Rimuru wasnt a demon lord in that loop. So also no Diablo. No power ups for everyone. No veldora freed. No black numbers. Look even at our goat gobta holding a wooden weapon instead of a good weapon. Yeah goat got nerfed in that timeline xD
I love how they always had Chloe at the end traveling from the start, and I never noticed it
If Rimuru doesnt become a demon lord in most time lines and when he did in the last timeline he got Raphael, I wonder if that is the real difference in that time line
Probably. His evolution gave him 4 ultimate skills, allowing him to best many of the opponents up to this point. Raphael’s guidance allowed h to gain further skills and advance his technology faster too. So that’s a fair claim
Sorry muss mich ein wenig in deutsch aufregen, vimeo ist in letzter Zeit immer am spinnen bei mir und bricht einfach ohne grund immer ab wenn ich eure Videos sehe 😤
One note is that luminous did have people prepare to evacuate in case chloe was correct so no one died. Next is that I'm so glad yall get to see best girl chloe do what she do best. To me she is the true heroine of the story. When yall said she was your favorite back in season 1 I was excited for your reactions to see her fate as being locked in a 2000 year groundhog day situation. After this cour though you should totally rewatch the series with the new perspectives.
It's quite possible this episode might have set the record for the most times y'all have ever paused a single episode. Which is totally valid because it recontextualizes so much. I've definitely been waiting to see y'all's reactions to the Chronoa episodes, and it's been worth the wait.
Chloe/Chronoa was a massive mindfuck of a character with this episode. She's easily 10000 years old or older
Let's talk about the hero's mask. Who created it? and when was it created? Because Rimuru got the mask from shizu, shizu got the mask from hero chronoa, chronoa as chloe got the mask from Rimuru. So the mask has been going on an endless time loop without an origin point. Which is why, diablo in s01 very last extra episode was super obsessed with shizu and the mask because he recognised the mask has seen many timelines and is a time anomaly. So the theory is, there was always an original timeline where everything happened for the first ever time, everything could be completely different from what they were. But for sure Rimuru created the mask and He gave it to chloe. The time travel, Rimuru's death, hinata's death, chloe's resolve to get back to a timeline where she saved rimuru, everything happened endlessly and the original timeline got erased, now we are living in a time travel loop which was created by chloe. Which is pretty cool. And yeah its like after rimuru and hinata died in different timelines, the sealed chronoa body will go on a rampage and some "powerful entity" kills her and the spirit goes back to young chloe in dwelling of spirits.
I really think you should go back and check what Luminous really said about Rimuru dieing.... You're mis-remembering and it seems the false info is confusing you guys. Also, if you really love mysteries, then you really should be checking out Lord of Mysteries, it's filled with them (ofc, it's in the name😂), admittedly to the point that some people get too confused about it😅...
So basically the timeline we have been watching will remain the same this is more like a quick walkthrough of how that timeline came to be is what I understood from it when I watched the episode
no spoilers
The Mask very important, You might want to go back to the season 1 episode about Diablo and Shizu, and what he said about the Mask.
it makes the mask a bootstrap paradox they never tell you about this in the light novel, manga, and anime
there are big reveals in the next episode and marvelous reaction i'll never spoil things for you guys and makes sense why veldora had that reaction with chloe and doesn't that make the mask a bootstrap paradox
I got spoilt about chloe before season four was even anounced because someone i know reads the book when i saw this intro i was like oh its this ark and was so exsited and im bad and acedently spoil all the time so im glad i was able to keep this in i tried very hard as this is one hell of a watch ruining spoiler
Whats funny is the mystery surrounding Chloe and the hero got nothing on the next big mystery. I cant wait until we get to the real meat of the story!
This episode made me want to rewatch the entire anime and i ended up here with you guys. There were so many hints along the way and i loved every second of the rewatch.
My understanding based on Chloe only having named herself Chronoa for the first time ever in this loop we're seeing play out, it makes me think what we're actually seeing is the previous loop that led to our current timeline not the Chloe and Hinata we just saw disappear but i could be wrong
This is correct!
I wish Night Rose would have had more of a gothic aesthetic. It’s somewhat of a mid design compared to Lubelius for all the glaze Luminus gives it.
its interesting how they heavily suggest that rimuru is the hope and future for their world and if they die everything goes to shit, its really adding to this trend in the show of how rimuru really is changing the world and even people like diablo and guy some of the oldest beings are fascinated with him and his potential
Now go back and watch the intro
“That meme with the scientist guy” I BELIEVE YOU MEAN JOHN C REILLY GOOD SIR
Finally the huge plot twist was seen. Now for the agonizing wait for your reaction to what imo is the best episode of the cour. Wasnt a huge fan of this section of this arc reading it, but it might be my favorite after seeing it animated.
Wait does this mean Chloe is the true main character LOL. This episode was insane I really can't wait for the next one.
Time-Loop Chloe!!!!
Just in cased it was missed, at 05:22 Hinata father-zoned rimuru </3
But maybe in the next episode we find someone with eyes on Hinata xD
Also a need thing to point out, nobody called the Hero by the name Chronoa until Chloe disappeared
Oh shit.
I looked at the title and spat my drink out. Diabolical.
Lets go finally
Why is there an AOT title in a slime episode??
SLIME TIME
The anime doesn’t do the best job to explain it, but the major difference between the two time loops was the fact that Chloe hold off Rimuru juuuust long enough from leaving, causing the first fight between Rimuru and Hinata, and the slaughter of Tempest.
This being a 2 parter is going to hurt.
LFG
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