January 14, 2019

Is Loot Box Regulation Censorship Of Art? (The Jimquisition)

Loot boxes remain a touchy issue in the game industry, especially now that prospect of regulation has become very real. The defenses, the lies, and the propaganda in support of them has ramped up quite a bit.

The "AAA" industry is going along a rather expected path, hiding behind the concept of art to defend itself. If you regulate loot boxes, they argue, you're censoring art.

David Jaffe has been going off on this very point, and his voice joins others in equating gambling with art. Either naively, or deliberately. Are they right? They are not.

Is Loot Box Regulation Censorship Of Art? (The Jimquisition) (YouTube)

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Brock Barber · January 16, 2019

New Patreon Reward: Jim will have a hard on for you.

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Twit In A Hat · January 15, 2019

Now, I kinda want to see more intros and wrapups with Jim's shelves of tat as the backdrop, just for variety.

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Freakish Uproar · January 15, 2019

What happened to my comment? I wrote some of thoughts regarding Jaffe and Pitchford. Nothing outright offensive or abusive, just some mockery and incredulousness.

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James Stephanie Sterling · January 16, 2019

No idea. I didn’t delete it, you maybe tripped a Patreon filter or something?

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Kraken · January 15, 2019

I think you could probably make a lootbox that *was*, arguably, art- maybe by making it into a kind of meta-allegory for the compulsive, looping nature of the game it is in, openly mocking the player while holding some necessary element for progression out of reach. The way lootboxes are handled right now, however, is less "art" than the concession stand at the movie theater, while also being more expensive, less enjoyable, and probably harder on your arteries.

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Twit In A Hat · January 15, 2019

<a href="http://icantbelieveitsnotgambling.com/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><i>I Can't Believe It's Not Gambling</i></a> comes to mind.

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Donovan Boyle · January 14, 2019

I've seen some people claim that letting regulations hit loot boxes will effect other game mechanics based on random outcomes like hit values or loot drops, but a lot of slot machines are computerized nowadays, so doesn't that mean those mechanics already are?

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Archov · January 14, 2019

I work at a company that makes Video Slot Machines (I work on the back end software, not the games themselves), and it's important to note two things about the casino industry. First off, the executives who make video slot games, think they're making video games, I've been scolded by a couple people by talking about "Real video games" because what we make is supposedly also video games. I bring that up because of what he's suggesting is true then he should be against all regulation of video slot machines too, these are video games that are being heavily regulated, like you wouldn't believe. Secondly, I think it would be important to remember that the gambling industry actually have used to be what everyone thought of when you talked about the "Gaming industry" long before the first pixel blessed any screen. So effectively the AAA game industry is actually trying to say "Yeah we're gaming, but we're not class III gaming" because then they'd be subject to state gaming boards. I agree that It's only a matter of time before legislation gets passed, but then again we have to have a government that can stay open for a full year before we expect very much to come out of washington DC...

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noxamillion · January 14, 2019

Business != Art. One is to earn money in whatever way possible, the other is to please the eyes or senses. If lootboxes were art, then microtransactions would be considered art by that logic.<br><br>Seeing David Jaffe make these weak analogies of TV show cliffhangers and serving alcohol to gambling just confuses me. Before he send that tweet, did he not actually think about his argument and see if there are any flaws with it? Did he honestly not think about the differences and nuances between them? Why am I giving this person the benefit of rationality?<br><br>Good on you Jim to not cover Randy Pitchford yet as this situation is still fresh and we need to see what is actually true and what is false.

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Botanist · January 14, 2019

You're doing good and well-researched work that is beneficial to a wide range of people, even people that may not realize it or even decry it. It's also entertaining. Keep it up!

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Hansbert Emmer · January 14, 2019

Even apart from the boxes themselves being art...they're still allowed to use the art in the game, as well as the content of the boxes. They just have to use a different monetisation model. Or just use them in the ingame economy, since so many of the games using them cost a lot upfront anyway.

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Perpetual Noob · January 14, 2019

Another brilliant video Jim. Thank you for this. 😃 *sighs* You know, I thought David Jaffe was one of the good guys, one of those developer greats who wanted to make good games. Apparently the money is just too good. Apparently he's enjoying being a shill too much. Good for him using the exact same scenario (just a different industry) to attempt to say loot boxes aren't gambling. Alcoholism is real, gambling addiction is real, addiction is real David. You fucking privileged idiot. Also, what about Pitchford?! I'm going to go look that up right now. Thank god for you Jim! 😃

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noxamillion · January 14, 2019

Here is the link to <a href="https://kotaku.com/former-gearbox-lawyer-accuses-ceo-randy-pitchford-of-ta-1831679539" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Randy Pitchford accusations</a>.

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Harry Moore · January 14, 2019

Editing is a bit sloppy at the end. The video/audio sync needs to be tightened up unless I'm the only one getting it. I reloaded twice once in a new tab to be sure

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James Stephanie Sterling · January 14, 2019

Looks fine to me. It’s not the first time I’ve seen individual viewers get weird sync issues on YouTube.

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Tim Albers · January 14, 2019

I hereby declare Jims new name to be "Jim Fucking Two Drives Sterling Son" XD great episode.

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noxamillion · January 14, 2019

That sounds unpleasant when you read that.

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Tim Albers · January 14, 2019

SPOILER: It's not!