Shady Sands (The Jimquisition)

I think that it was more a continuity error / fuckup more than a slap in any one game's face. My issue is with Chief Executive Bullshitter Todd Howard lamely trying to pretend they were oh-so very careful with the lore and that they didn't fuck up, even though Bethesda have played fast and loose with the lore before. That and the wave of fanboys shouting down anyone who dare question God Howard's golden words. I think they could have shown Shady Sands (or what's left of it) and referenced its destruction without moving it to the Boneyard, but I'm not about to go to war over it. While watching the series I found it to be well-made but somewhat underwhelming, with only the odd good bit and the ongoing mystique around the 3 vaults keeping me motivated. However the finale blew my socks off and, like you said, really cemented Hank MacLean as the kind of bellend that Bobby Kotick can only dream of being.

I wonder how they felt in Force Awakens when Han died. I'm going to recommend the movie "Monkey Man", I believe you'll enjoy it.

If they are willing to hit Shady Sands, then there's a lot more interesting things that have been by the wayside in the Fallout universe that could prove amazing to pull from. I'm hoping they pull from Fallout: Tactics. There were some really neat ideas there, that actually would support and gel with what the show has done so far. You have things like Vault 0, that was supposed to be the preservation and launching point to the rebuild the world after the bombs... That failed due to the rich cutting the budgets for backup systems for rich comforts. Then, when the Calculator fired up and started to pacify the wasteland, a separated contingent of BoS had to change their ways to fight back. With the lead of The Warrior, that Midwestern BoS took control of Vault 0 and stopped the pacification robots. To do this, that chapter of BoS had to bring in Ghouls, Super Mutants, and the intelligent Deathclaws within their ranks. A stark contrast to the BoS we've seen lately. Of course, people would wonder, "Why haven't we seen more of them?" They're laying low and keeping a low profile. When The Warrior merged with Calculator, they had access to a lot of data... And the original plans set in place... The same plans laid out in the show. Vault 0 may have failed and prevented a major part of Their plans, but just because They are fragmented and operating on Their own now doesn't mean They aren't ridiculously dangerous. So, the last thing you need to do is to make yourself known, like the Bear and Bull did. The Midwestern BoS isn't interested in empire expansion, because they are scared of something greater. Using Their own tactics against Them, the Midwest BoS are waiting, too... Joining the great game. While the old world waits and slowly rots in the ground, the new is trying to build up strength for the day the two will meet. So you have a very power organization not making waves and bordering on isolationism. (A true sleeping giant.) They don't want to deal with common empire squabbles and average threats of the wasteland, trying to avoid making waves. But... That might not be an option anymore. Between the Zealot BoS and possible existential threats gaining traction, they might have to show their hand to the world. Of course, this is just my fun theory. I think it'd be a fun plot line for a Season 3 or 4 deal.

Tamriel hasn't changed? The Empire fell and they dropped an entire moon on a continent. In Skyrim the world may have literally been rebooted. Tamriel changes every game. Every one. They tear down key parts every time.

This framed as a response to criticism feels odd to me. I hadn't paid any attention during filming and when it came out I saw so much positivity and had friends recommend the show that I decided to watch it. I've mostly seen positive comments. Guess only keeping to select circles and avoiding the Algorithm will do that. XD I quite liked the show, as a fan of the 2 original fallouts and new vegas. I have complaints but mostly nitpicks, and the fate of the NCR isn't one of them. Seemed weird at first, compared to the Brotherhood of Steel, by the direction both factions seemed to be in; but once explained it seems completely in line with the world of fallout. Of course the ones who plunged the world into nuclear apocalypse will do it again if they feel someone who isn't them is rebuilding. Moving forward I would like to see the NCR idealized and used as a symbol the way pre-war usa is. Not that I have any hope for the future of fallout under bethesda.

I will say that I hated that the NCR fell because I'm getting more than a little sick of The Fallout Story; that is to say dangerous wasteland, fragile remnants of civilization, entropy and caps. There's a disconnect where the writers seem to realize that people wouldn't keep living the same lives as scavengers or raiders forever but they don't want to deal with a more settled wasteland, so nothing can ever improve. .. Also the NCR was doing poorly in the Mojave because it was far the hell away from their center of power and they hadn't broadly committed to taking it over. Near their center of power they were a juggernaut.