Rogue-Like 0.92 Holiday Edition
So guess what. There's a new build.
Before you get to downloading though, here are some patch notes, pay attention, because this is a VERY not ready for prime time build, it's definitely beta. I basically stopped adding new things a few days ago and tried to make sure that what was there worked as best I could, but it's still rougher than I wanted. I expect to have new versions out roughly weekly for the next few weeks to patch bugs as they come up, but there are already a few I know will be an issue but didn't have time to fix as I wanted to get this out immediately. I'll be posting the patch notes on the front page.
I'm sending links out now to all patrons with processed transactions. Future updates will only go to those with completed transactions though. Here are the patch notes:
Changelog:
Too many to even keep track of, but that I can remember:
-Added word balloons, still working on them a bit though, so the arrow tails will not always point at the person speaking, I plan to fix that.
-new animation for doggy style sex, and UI elements for fondling and sex toys. I plan to expand on these a bit more. The dialog isn't entirely compatible with the new animations, that will change.I need to overhaul the sex interface, how to shift between actions and that sort of thing, but I wanted to get the animations working how I wanted before moving to that part. Its current state is a bit wonky. I also intend to extend the new UI tools to the sprites other than the default one, but haven't yet.
-The clothing system should work better now, hopefully no major bugs, although I'm still tweaking the UI and requirements.There are some dialog bugs when she's asked to remove clothing though, nothing game breaking, just sounds weird, I'll fix that.
-You can set a custom outfit, or tell her to wear a particular outfit, but she will follow a contextual and semi-random schedule of changing her own outfits. I plan to add the option to insist on an outfit later.
-You will have the option of suggesting she get piercings or shave her pubes, if you've earned that right, but keep in mind that these changes do not happen instantly, they happen over night, or sometimes within the week after you ask.
-Tweaked many of the dialogs, as well as the chat option. She won't have a lot to say at first, but more options open up as you interact with her.
-I changed the basic "will she do the thing you want?" dialogs a bit, how they work and sound. This is still a work in progress. Due to feedback, I do intend to make her options more linear in nature than they currently are, but that is not implemented yet.
Bugs to watch for:
-Unusual stat boosts: One bug we had in the last build caused an earlier event, which should have only added +1 or 2 points to a stat, to instead increase it by 200 points. This quickly got culled back down to 100, but that's still more than it should have been so early in the game and distorted the intended difficulty quite a bit. Keep an eye out for stats rocketing up by large amounts and please let me know what dialog triggered it. It won't necessarily show a "+200" graphic or anything either, it might just quietly cause the bar to max out.
-Any broken animations, where something seems wildly out of place. Screenshot it if you can ("s" by default), and tell what the sequence of events leading to that was. Note that in Renpy, you can use pgup and pgdn to scroll through your recent choices like "undo/redo," allowing you to take a step back from what you last did.
-Maybe try reloading saves from previous versions of the game to see if they still work without glitching. Ideally they should, I don't want players to have to start each game from scratch as I add new characters. The plan is that when I add Kitty, you can either continue from wherever you left off with Rogue and advance with Kitty, or start a fresh game and seduce Kitty before Rogue if you like. You should probably try a fresh game too though, because there are new things added. :D
-There are a few visual options that might not work in all animations, but that is being worked on. Feel free to point these out just in case.
-If completing an action leaves you some place that doesn't make sense to you. For example, a bug I caught meant that if you tried to study, whichever room you started in, you would end up in Rogue's room when it ended. If you end up someplace other than where you started, without a good reason for this, let me know.
-If anyone's running this game on a really weak computer, let me know how it performs. I have a lot of moving pieces.
Comments (25)
Another bug. When preforming anal, the message pops up as "Didn't pop the call" I assume that means the message that was supposed to pop up isn't
Ah, sorry about that. Not a "bug", per se, just a diagnostic message that I hadn't removed in that build, as it was a bit of a rush. It's gone already. You saw that blog post the other day about calls and jumps? That was from when I was trying to test out why it wasn't clearing away an unwanted call stack. Anyways, nothing you guys need to mess with, and it doesn't hurt anything. Thanks for pointing it out though.
Another bug. I was able to use a cologne to lower inhibition and have access in a public place. This cause Professor X to break in and call us to his office. I cannot get out of his office now. The finish and leave button is not working. Did that twice in a row. The second time the button did not work
Ok, thanks, stupid error on my part, but should be fixed now.
Just pledged. How can I get the link for the download?
Thanks! I'll be sending out another round of download links in a few days, updated with more bug fixes.
Sorry, hit enter too soon. Anyway, I use the same method every time, which is that I start out the first week taking class all day and a danger room session at night. I make sure Rogue is present each time so it will boost her skill points. She was fully mine within the first two weeks. All stats 100%. The issue now seems to be any "public" activities. She bugs out and is still standing there, but won't get back in position. And Professor X doesn't break in on us. Also had the bug where she doesn't let me sleep over. Is there any chance you could add an option to buy her a dress. Something short and slutty for going out on dates?
Ok, so as for "bugs out," how does that work? Are you saying that her pose won't return to the default sprite? Or that the choices on the side of the screen don't revert to what you would expect? does it leave you no options at all? Knowing where exactly it leaves you will help me track down how it's broken. As for new clothing options, her current skirt is about as short as it can get, although maybe I could add some new top that makes it into a full dress or something. ;)
So I started a new game after trying to play off my old one and it kept crashing. Not a big deal.
Sorry to hear about that. If you could provide me the crash log for it, that would help me narrow down why that's happening. My goal is to have it so that you shouldn't have to start fresh on each new copy.
Just remembered something that struck me as odd from a previous version of the game. Not sure if its the same in this one. Rogue's relationship tiers seem out of order. She starts you off at "boyfriend" then you go to "sex-friend". Isn't that like saying "I'm enjoying the physical bit, but I don't want romance with you anymore" Or does that depend on having higher lust than love or something? Anyway, after that it was lover and master, which seems to be in order.
Yeah, basically in the earlier build it was a very "gamey" mechanism. She had six different states you could unlock, based on reaching 75 and 90 Love, 50 and 90 Obedience, and 50 and 90 Inhibition, whichever order you achieved those goals in, and they were all mostly identical outside of some dialog. The current version is slightly different than that, a bit more natural, and I plan to shift them a bit further. The current plan is for the "sex friend" options to only unlock if you aren't dating at the time, and to add more dialog that references your other relationship status tiers.
Just remembered something that struck me as odd from a previous version of the game. Not sure if its the same in this one.
I tried this out, and decided to pledge to help in order to not be a leecher, especially since I like where things are headed . I also wanted to add some input. 1. I noticed that for some reason you can no longer sleep in her room after you're her boyfriend, master, and sex-friend. It requires you to be all three of those (I tested boyfriend/lover+master and boyfriend/lover+sex friend and you could still sleep in her room). I think it requires first tier for each minimum (where she tells you she wants to advance the relationship) but it's so easy to get to max tier that it could be different. What happens is after you say yes to sleeping over, you go back to your room anyway. Every time. 2. I see others have mentioned it, but it's much too easy to max things out. I think that both reducing the frequency of rewards (maybe only giving rewards for love when you choose to initiate a scene instead of every action within the scene?), lowering the values of rewards (maybe only +1 to a reward per action instead of the +5's and +3's I see all over the place?), or both could help this. 3. I also think that perhaps you should have all three of the bars go down slightly at the start of each day (this way if you don't constantly try to raise a specific track it can lower to zero? Since you have ways to reduce love you might only need to do it for the obedience/inhibition tracks? Not sure what's more difficult). It would be nice for her not to just become a completely uninhibited obedient lover automatically over the span of 3 days.
1. Hmm, interesting feedback. A lot of people have reported a problem with this, and I'll work on nailing it down, but your experience adds a piece to the puzzle. It shouldn't technically require you to have those standards, it's more based on reaching certain stat levels, but it might be a factor. 2. Yeah, I'll work on tweaking these a bit more. I have some ideas to balance it out better. My concern is that I want it to be low enough that it's a challenge to max (not there yet), without being so stingy that you reach a point where it's impossible to max out, or unnecessarily grindy. Large numbers should only typically occur on first time or special events though, mostly. 3. I don't know about having them automatically degrade. I mean, once she feels a certain way, she shouldn't really feel less like that unless you give her good reason to, and I don't want to get into a situation where you're constantly having to juggle them, especially once there are 3-4 girls to handle.
Oh, so i'm trying the new version and the first thing to jump out at me is that love starts at 50. That might be why it seems to fill up so fast. It's already half-full by the time you open the game. It could be at 60% before you even get past the intro. As for other stuff, it feels like there aren't enough ways to raise love. For example, if I meet rogue in class, I can "chat" with her, (but it does nothing because "she's not good at chit-chat" or I can try to make out with her/talk about a pet name/ask her to get changed. None of those are really fitting for someone you just met yesterday. There's no option to just talk to her, get to know her, flirt with her. You jump right into "want to make out?" or nothing.
Also, rogue seems to randomly change her clothes throughout the day. (I assume it's supposed to be "at the start of each day" not "at the start of each action" she switches between lessons or in the middle of danger-room sessions.
When studying and Rogue decides to masturbate ends up with two sets of errors. May have already been mentioned in previous versions but when having sex and switch positions to hotdog and then select to switch actions, the "how about sex?", "Just stick it in her", and "Never mind" are missing but "pull back to hotdog her" still is an option.
On the studying thing, I'm not immediately certain what would be causing the errors. If you can give me a screenshot of the error message or just list the line numbers and basic details of the error that would be helpful. I tried reproducing it and it worked ok on this end. The hotdogging thing is a good catch, probably an issue from copy-pasting UI code and not tweaking it. I plan to overhaul that stuff anyways but I'll make sure to fix it this time. ;)
Cheers for the new update Oni. Question, you planning to add more positions or this is done for Rogue now and moving on to next heroines? I might not get to play this until the new year due to travels. Anyways though, can't wait! Hope your holidays is going great!
I'm not planning on new positions beyond the ones in this build, at least for the forseeable future. There are some I want to add, but each really is a ton of work to implement, since I have to redraw every possible clothing option, and the more clothing I add, the more work that becomes. This is why so many Japanese games only have one clothing option for each specific scene, in most cases. It's certainly a trade-off. There are at least 1-2 other options I'd like to add at some point, maybe after the initial Kitty release is ready, but now is not the time.
First thing i would say is bring back the original box for entering your name choice at the start it looks odd how it is now (i will be posting more about this version as a progress) Edit: random outfit changes. Edit 2: i think you should bring up the maximum stat numbers in the future update it is still to easy to get full love in a few days. Edit 3: when you do the massage option the second choice says "how about just the 0 or O i am not sure witch. Edit 4: the licking animation for the breast is bugged and will stay for a while (unknown how i fixed it). Edit 5 not sure if it is a but but when you pay for a movie rogue gets 40 lust i think that might be a little much.
Ok, 1. "random" outfit changes might be mostly intended at this point, as she changes clothes about like a girl would (within a limited wardrobe), and she'll always revert to her default look when changing locations. As I said, I do intend to add options to insist on her wearing certain looks everywhere, but for the time being the system mainly allows you to dress her up in privacy, and add a custom outfit to her line-up. 2. I don't intend to raise any of the stats, they are each 100 and add up to 300 and messing with that would break all sorts of things, but I might continue to make it more difficult to raise it so that it takes longer to max out. Remember, maxed Love is only 100/300 total points, and shouldn't be enough alone to earn every possible action, but I do suppose it's a bit easy to come by at the moment. 3. I did notice that when putting this build together, I know what's causing it and intend to fix it but it would have taken a while and pushed the release back a day or so so I left it alone for now. Probably fixed by the next build, but for the time being it doesn't hurt anything. 4. Good to know, I'll try to figure out why that's happening. It would help if you could be more clear on the circumstances, was breast sucking the primary action or the secondary one? was it staying after the sex scene ended entirely, or just after switching to some other activity? 5. Probably is a bit high, I'll tone that down a bit. Still, it should max out at 50% due to those circumstances, so it can get her "primed," but not over the top.
im goin to download it in about 34 seconds also i just noticed how small the game is you did a very nice job of compressing everything
It is a surprisingly small game, I really didn't do anything fancy, it's all just .pngs and no video or music, so it apparently doesn't take up a ton of space. It probably helps that the images are composited in realtime by the game from various bits, so there are only hundreds of images instead of thousands.
