Planning Bangkok
We've got lots of ideas about the brothel our heroine has to infiltrate. But what about you? What are you expecting, and what do you want your agent to experience?
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Just game across this game on the TFGames site. I really enjoyed playing it. It's great you get to help choose the background of your character. As well as different possible kinks/fetishes to help round out the personality. So I think this game is off to a very nice start. Maybe you can have the hypnotist implant a suggestion or two to the agent to perform something kinky that he would like her to do. Perhaps send photos to him later. Btw, will there be a description of what he does to her during those sessions (other than hints with the graphics along the side) with her? Or since she is under the trance she will never know? Or is that only for Patreon folks?
I want agent to capture the target without help and question about the terror funding network. Yes, I spoke with Crushstation and he liked my idea.
Honestly a bit of difficulty would be amazing. Make it hard to get started, such that the player has to utilize every feature and aspect in the game in order to balance a set of variables. Ie not getting caught, paying rent, getting clients, not getting hurt, gaining experience, searching for intel. some level of risk vs reward too. You want features to be important for both the mission and you character, and not just there to look at and test out. Have consequences for many decisions and make it such that the player has to think carefully rather than spam clicking to get to content. You want skills to serve a purpose and for players to only be able to prioritize a couple skills at first, then growing into a master spy with many other skills, assets, and contacts. Is this already whats in mind, or something completely off target? @crushstation
Actually i'd like to see something like a pregnancy system, it's said to the agent once that regular birth control should do the trick, but what'll happen if she doesn't take them or she doesn't get some. Also it should have consequences for her to get pregnant, like forced by "boss" to abort the baby and psychic problems doing it... somehting like that... I'd also like to see a drug addiction route, one thought possibility is that the "boss" in bankok want's to get the agent addictet so he can controll her better or he simply does it with all his whores? ;) In your origin-story you can chose to try drugs, that might be a thing to start this event or make it easier to get addicted... (this should be considered to lead to a possible bad end)
I would like to see stuff like Lesbian clients to make use of the bisexual trait and also ladyboys/trans because THAILAND please.
As it is usual for me, I have multiple ideas and am expanding on them progressively in my mind. I will try to keep things focused though. Also, people have already mentioned some of the things I will discuss, but I wanted to give my take on them as well. In a previous and similar post long time ago, I said I want to see a realistic portrayal of the criminal underground. Things should not be roses and sunshine, quite on the contrary. That being said, I do not expect the game to be just a pile of abuse thrown at the agent. It should be both persistent AND justified. I will start from the very beginning with how the agent enters the club. I would divide prostitution generally in three groups. - Street prostitution – whether with a pimp or not - Establishment one – brothel and such - Call girl/Escort Each of them has representation in every country (more or less). We should not also forget what is the ultimate goal of the agent – get the bad guy; and the only link is that he likes a certain type of girl (as a side-note, have you thought about portraying the bad guy based on the traits of the agent? If she is into older guys, he is older for example) and she is it. To get to that link, she needs to work at the titty-bar. In a sense, she could be just a topless waitress and she should draw his attention. What I think would be good is to actually give each possible job different pros and cons in regard to the mission and the agent would choose based on them. I will start from the bottom and throw some ideas regarding each of them. 1. Street prostitution – The idea here would be to seek work in an area controlled by the same gang that runs the brothel. The agent might intentionally let herself by taken by them and “forced” to work. She could achieve that by trying to solicit a tourist. She might either be kidnapped by a pimp and forced to work OR be extorted for protection money. Could do both at the same time. a. Pros i. Significantly less suspicion as the gang was “forcing” her to work AND/OR she is not going straight to her goal. ii. Immediately access to cheap drugs iii. Experience and contacts at the low level of the criminal life in Thailand iv. Lower maintenance as her looks and appearance would be of less importance. b. Cons i. The agent will have to deal with long time without contact with the agency while she is being “broken-in”. And afterwards contact will be harder and less frequent. ii. The work there will be grindier and would leave less free time slots for the agent to do other things. Also efficiency would be more important than quality. iii. Cheap drugs would be more addictive and effects lasting for shorter time, also pimps are very likely to use drugs to enforce obedience. iv. Physical abuse would be much more likely from pimps / competing prostitutes / johns. v. Once a street whore, high-class escorting should be out of the question as she would have certain “rep”. vi. Much more physically and mentally taxing. c. Few additions regarding that path i. Might force direct confrontation with the police as there is no organization standing “behind her”. Also if she is arrested for soliciting she might be “sold” to a pimp by the police or extradited which would fail the mission. ii. Ultimately her goal would be to “graduate” to working in the titty-bar. Since she would be a street whore, her only option in the bar would be of a prostitute as she already is one. 2. The titty-bar – The direct approach. She could pretend that she is out of money (the original script) and in need of work. She could start as a topless waitress and progress through stripper and prostitute. I see this as the “moderate” path where things are not going to extremes. a. Pros i. Gets her in the bar directly. ii. Structured work schedule with more free time around noon and early afternoon. iii. Moderate level of suspicion from your employers AND physical/mental pressure to “do more”. iv. The physical and mental abuse (if the mamasan decides the agent deservers it) would be only behind closed doors and not in the open. b. Cons i. The work schedule would mean she is expected in the evenings and nights and might miss opportunities if they overlap with her schedule. 3. VIP section of the bar – This should be earned by good behavior in the bar OR by exceptional interview. I see it as the Callgirl/escort, but not entirely. Frankly I think pure callgirl/escort would not work as it contradicts the agent’s goal to be at the bar where she is waiting for her mark. Still she might get some outside work by gaining connections (she might even choose whether to pay her mamasan’s share or not with possible consequences). She would spend her shifts entertaining clients in the VIP lounge. a. Pros i. High payment and easier working shifts and she would be servicing less clients. ii. The abuse would be mainly mental (unless it is a BDSM scene) in nature as losing the job (and the status that comes with it) would be a good enough bargaining tool to enforce certain level of obedience. iii. Connections to important figure in both underworld, politics, police, etc. iv. Free access to quality drugs from her patrons (longer lasting, less negative side effects). b. Cons i. The quality of her service would be more important than quantity. If she fails to deliver, she might be demoted. ii. Would require high maintenance – hairstyle, makeup, etc. iii. Might become more recognizable as she would be seen with more important people. iv. Suspicion would be harder to maintain low. Another aspect I would add to that is the possibility of promotion/demotion/overlap between the different jobs. Every person is perceived in one way or another based on their occupation. This could be reflected by fellow prostitutes, clients and pimps (even fellow agents!!). If the agent starts at say middle (stripper in the bar) and becomes a VIP escort, the other escorts might react in different ways than compared if she starts as a VIP escort. Some would be jealous other might respect you more if they had followed similar path. Getting demoted should also have negative consequences. For example, if the agent starts as VIP escort and becomes “common” stripper, the other “common” strippers might mock her for her failure and thinking she was better than them. Also the mamasan might not change the suspicion level to the one appropriate for “common” stripper and keep the same watchful eye she had for the VIP escort. On the topic of overlap, if the agent needs money, she might ask the mamasan for more work and be sent to the streets for extra work or be called in the VIP lounge for a kinkier show than what the normal vip escorts would do. Think of it as special events that can happen. On the aspect of the agent “losing herself” in her role. I like that a lot. I think it should be related to her kinks. For example, if the agent spends a lot of time with clients that suit her own needs, she might get into it more and more. In contrast, when she is forced to do things that she dislikes (have you thought of adding “turnoffs”?) she might suffer mental breakdown. If I relate it to my idea for the “jobs” above, for example, if the agent likes rough sex, the streets might suit her, while agent that likes older men might find the elite clientele of the VIP lounge more to her liking. Different types of crime come hand in hand. I think this should be integral part of the whole game. You can link different activities to different “jobs” as well. For example, she might be asked to smuggle drugs, but that is more likely to happen if she works the streets. If she is in the VIP lounge, she might be recorded with someone in order to extort money from him. Another aspect here is the agent being a victim of crimes herself. If she is “forced” to prostitute, that itself is a crime. Robbing her of her money seems too predictable to be interesting, but should be mentioned. If she is robbed she might be pressured to do things she would not do otherwise. For example, if she is a VIP escort and suddenly needs money, the agent might decide to work the streets for a night to get the amount, but she might be recognized and the mamasan demotes her to a common prostitute. Shooting pornography is illegal in Thailand, but I think it is a bit different than prostitution. A bit more hush-hush. I think this path should be hidden and not obtainable from the very start and should be again only an extra as her main goal is to be in the bar. As last, I would mention the possibility of rival agency. Say, the KGB wants your target for their own reasons AND/OR they discover you and force you to work for them as a double agent. Heck, you can even go as a triple agent and work for your target (if he is the perfect match for the agent based on her kinks, she might fall in love with him). A traitor in your own organization is also a possibility.
KGB doesn't exist, but SVR is an external intelligence agency.
Having the management pressure her into getting work done, either by some back ally doctor if they don't care about her, or an actual hospital if they do for some reason, like her being a moneymaker and them wanting to get even more out of her. There should also be other ways to change her physical, and mental, state.
This is definitely something I like in the sense that it’s potentially a more permanent choice. Breast implants can be removed pretty easily, but transplants to the breasts or lips would be much more difficult to reverse, meaning that even after the mission is over there’s still those physical traces of time as a prostitute.
Could be interesting to have her befriend a fellow prostitute, do little things to help each other out, maybe go on a little excursion together, build that relationship. Then the a valuable opportunity presents itself where she has to choose between saving her friend (getting them out of whatever situation it is) or abandoning her friend, and sticking to the mission, with consequences either way.
I personally want to see a storyline possibility where the agent meets another agent undercover except it's an agent who's posing as a client. You have the option of maintaining said agent's cover (maybe the agent that goes with you on your second LIONESS training mission) or blowing it to further your own cover. Possibility of romance here too? You come to care for each other etc. Another one that I would like is if Agent/Kate has an option of falling in love with one of her handlers fellow strippers, adds a little tension whenever her loved one is in 'trouble'. Blow your cover to help/save them? Or maintain it and let fate take its course? And if you leave them to hang... karma later? xD spitballin' here
Oh yeah, a relationship with a fellow stripper/hooker would be very interesting.
What's Bangkok without ladyboi prostitutes.
Ide like to see "Bad ends", being caught or corrupted into a sexy game over would be great. Also the possibility of new fetishes that can be forced on the character like masochism and bondage fetishes. Another thought would be diverting routes where you can either work as a mostly free prostitute/stripper or being so sexy/skilled, that you get kidnapped and put in a more forced slave route. Great game, having fun playing, want to see more.
What I expect to be in Bangkok is a bit of everything. From the usual prostituion aspect, where the guy hires a girl for sex, to scenarios that can lead to multiple partners in a day, clients wanting to film strip shows, gangbangs, bukkakke's, glory holes, porn shoots, high end escorting, domination and submission, bdsm, etc. I think ideally you can bypass some of these events as not all of them please everybody (I listed here some that don't do much for me), but the idea is that we'll have choices to put the agent in the scenarios that please us the most. Apart from that, I think it's best to let your creativity run free. I've seen to many projects getting worse because the authors sometimes listen to much to their fan base and while attempting to please everyone's requests the stories end up suffering from incoherence.
In terms of sex stuff...I like the exhibitionism stuff but it might get old when she is a prostitute or a stripper. Maybe that side needs to be stretched into something more extreme. She might have to stay naked for long periods of time in public for example or wear alternative clothes sets (I do't want to make too much work for you). I imagine she'll have to be promiscuous so those kink requirements might not be realistic. Plus, if the only thing this kink helps with is getting more sex, I'd pass since the sex scenes themselves are fun to read but a little tedious.
Actually, if she becomes popular (especially with mafia bosses and those trying to make points with them) the public (outside of the brothel) exhibitionism makes a LOT of sense. Nothing says *POWER* like publicly flaunting your defying of both cultural convention/morals AND the law and no-one daring to stop you - both which would be almost as intoxicating as our dear agent naked to a mafia type! It doesn't necessarily have to be 'open air' public either; leading her in naked on a leash to a high-level business meeting or exclusive party/fundraiser with either politicians or non-criminal big business execs would certainly stroke the ego (and libido) of the so-called 'power brokers'. Bonus fun if someone from her government (foreign office, State Dept., etc.) that does not know of her true occupation is present... and tries to 'step in and rescue the poor girl'!!! Imagine trying to find excuses to tell the British Ambassador (or such) about why she/he can't buy you out of your troubles and whisk you to safety! Of course, they might also want a mistress for themselves which her mission handlers would find extremely... interesting! Some very good possibilities there... develop an 'asset' of a high-ranking government (her own or foreign) official on the side and turn them over to her 'agency' while NOT blowing her cover or endangering the mission would definitely help her career [basically have lots of naughty fun with them, keep proof and pass that proof along - not actually confront them].
Maybe her false history catches up with her and someone she slept with or one of the organizers for the wet t-shirt contest see her. Or her REAL history catches up with her in the form of a college professor/family member. A lot of her is online now and if it circulates enough it might end up with someone she knows. Maybe she has taken the eye of a powerful man in Thailand who finds her false history but looks further to find her real identity.
Rather than give a specific, I'll mention a story whose mood is something that I find very appealing: on Literotica, a three-part story from the author j267 called "A Professor Living Dangerously." First part is here: https://www.literotica.com/s/a-professor-living-dangerously-pt-01 Very roughly, the main character is a young professor who as part of her thesis on sex work has to go undercover at a strip club to get interviews. She begins as a waitress but slowly is pressured by the owner into becoming a dancer, and then essentially an escort. Even as she becomes more well known in the club and gains more and more information for her "real-world" studies, and even becomes the owner's favorite, she begins to disassociate from her "regular" persona, get more and more lost in drugs and drink and sex, and jeopardizes her relationship with her husband back home. I think it's really well written and while obviously not secret agent stuff, I think the tone reflects the course I'd like to see from this game.
I agree - the 'getting lost in the persona' danger is a very real issue (and should be in the game); I used to do computer work for some law enforcement agencies and this was a constant concern for both supervisors and the undercovers that worked for them. They had to 'fit in' - be very good at what was going on but not TOO GOOD to be true, yet somehow still not break any (serious) laws [even though they might appear to]. With sex work, at least she will not be expected to kill anyone - though she might be witness to it (as hiring a prostitute to keep your target busy while the killers arrive/move into position is an age-old ploy... and actually the one she is there for!! ... except for the killing part). Even if she doesn't 'get lost' she will have to deal with what she is doing - and the extreme rage she will have to bottle up (or not?) she will feel towards her clients (supposedly women from non-Western cultures do not feel this as intensely since the expectation of male behavior is different). Towards the end(?) of her tale, I would expect some real plot development on this issue - either therapy or revenge issues/plans.
Well, our agent is on a mission. She is there as a bait to catch a dangerous terrorist. Nobody knows when, or if, he will show up in the brothel. But when he does, our agent must be there to act. Does the secret service have any information about the sort of whores this target is interested in? If he seeks high class escort service, there is no use for her to walk the streets. But maybe there is very little information. IIRC, the only information they have comes from a German girl that disappeared. So our agent will probably start to investigate this disappearance. Before she can do this, she will have to earn confidence with fellow prostitutes, madams and mafiabosses. And she must do it fast. There is no time to loose, as soon as the terrorist is in the area, she must be ready. If she wants to earn the trust of a fellow prostitute, she must be helpful to her and not be a thread. So, she may act a bit sloppy. And she may need to go to very dark places to find a specific girl with useful information.. If she wants to earn the trust of a madam, she must earn money for her. So she must be willing to work hard and do anything that earns an extra buck. That way she can befriend a useful source of information. Male bosses (mafia) she may be able to play by doing special, kinky things or by attending sex parties. This way she can meet influential people who may have the information she needs. In all cases I expect our agent to excel in it. If she needs to be dirty, she will be very dirty. If she needs to be classy, she can be very classy. And if she must be kinky, I think she will be kinky as hell! Like the wet T-shirt contest: go all the way and beyond.
Nutty James bond car chase/make out session.
I'm interested in Agent/Kate's introduction to the brothel. I know she is building a cover, so I am wondering how the owner(s) will treat her when she arrives and how she will learns the ropes of working at HCC while being in character.
- I'd like it if the agent could be recruited for various events/shoots/... by clients of the brothel. Some of these would be as part of side missions (take part in an orgy to bug a place, escort a criminal in hope of getting evidence) BUT some of them would be entirely optional and wouldn't to either her main mission or to any other interests of her spy agency (porn shoots, regular orgies, ...), meaning the agent would have to make the choice to degrade herself further than her mission requires her to, for money she doesn't truly need. - In the same kinda vein, I'd like it if the agent could choose to do camming on the side. Doing it would get her money, but it would also increase her fame which would make her more in demand with higher class clients at the brothel, but there would be risks such as former acquaintances of hers getting wind of her current situation and blackmailing her (both online and in person). She could cam solo or with partners, both male and female.
Maybe one alternative path if she fails a skill or something , is she is kidnapped to be unwillingly used in brothel and has to find way to escape, (various paths there distract guards, struggle free bindings, etc you get idea.
I'd like to see the agent get involved with some of the other dancers, with a bouncer or three, to so party events for high roller clients. I'd like to see her lose herself to her basest instincts over time, the way Johnny Depp's character gets lost in the mob in Donnie Brasco. You decide if there are routes for her to redeem herself (or not) and the consequences professionally for her decisions. I could see her having to service "management" as part of the deal to work in the brothel. Then they can "refer" her to the target from personal first-hand knowledge about her "skills", and other interesting clients. Management could even help "train" her to service clients better. So many possibilities. :)
I was hoping to be able to do both higher end escort work and grittier high-volume sex den prostitution. My general thought was to start low and work up the hierarchy of pay and prestige as I build skills and goodwill with the madame-or-whoever. I think other people might prefer the “spiral down” route, though, where you start out high-class and sort of dignified and degrade into an accept-anything prostitute. I *can* enjoy the “spiral down” stories, but sometimes they give me a bad feeling and then I’m completely put off from the whole thing. Working my way up to a high-priced (I almost said “classy”, but honestly I’d prefer not to be *too* classy) escort is always fun for me.
Expanding on the sex den: I’m thinking basically renting a bed from the madame on a nightly basis and then being able to keep some percentage of the pay from each john, so there’s a strong incentive to crank through as many clients as possible. You can build goodwill with the madame by bringing back repeat customers, fulfilling special requests, and maybe giving freebies to the mafia to which the madame pays protection. Rejecting customers or refusing requests lowers goodwill. When goodwill gets high enough, madame can offer you a slot in the higher end outcall business. Eventually you can have your own apartment and whatnot, though she still holds your passport or whatever and you can’t leave the country with all the money you’ve made until you’ve made her X amount of money or done enough favours. And of course if/when you take down the target, do you kiss all that money goodbye?
