WOTM: Doug Out?
I've become a big fan of the PineCreek channel on YouTube, run by Doug (if that IS his real name). I'm very impressed with his ability to talk to believers and shake their faith. I think he does amazing work! And the proof is in the pudding... people talk to him and then leave the faith! We need more of that. By their fruits, right?
But whenever I mention Doug in one of my videos, I get blow back from people who want me to "beware" of Doug because he's a conservative (as if I didn't know that). He's not a Trumper or MAGA. Just a conservative — and it sounds like he's from the John McCain wing. In this video, I give my reasons for why Doug's conservatism doesn't concern me. I'll be curious to know what you think.
Well, gang... here I am again overwhelmed by the generosity! Thank you all so much for making my life possible. I really love doing this. I hope that comes through. And I hope it brings you some serious joy knowing how much value you ad to my life — and my dog's live's too. They love you just as much as I do!!! Of course they do — they love everyone! #bestspeciesever
Stay safe and smart — 'cause some people can't do both... or either. I'll see you next month, along with my alter ego, Mr. Deity. Take care until then. B, C&J (Cookie & JewG)
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Brian, yep! Don't lose the good seeking the perfect. I've been subbed to PinecreekDoug(or?), for years. His street epistemology is great. As for his conservative views, I think he's kind enough to be more ( a little?)socially progressive. I don't know, I hope. The 'extreme left' , and in most ways I'm farther left than anyone in DC, can drive me batty, at times. But the idiots asking 'you believe in abortion up to birth?? (For some I believe they could be aborted at 60 yrs!)Or, 'cutting off the genitals of children??, (no, that's religion!) I say is like me asking them 'so, when did you stop beating your wife? ' 👍💖💙😘🥰✌
You are right, we need to take progress as we can get it and push for more not with ire and exclusion but through compassion and examples. That said, we shouldn't tolerate people or policies doing actual harm. People voting for shit policies should be educated, but it's on us to be convincing to enough people and be organized enough to get the kind of cultural change and control to make sure the damage is not done or at least reduced. I live in a liberal city and am the most liberal person most of my friends know. If I didn't accept flawed people I would have 0 allies on any issues, and that is not how you effect change. I think people understand that power concedes nothing without demand, but forget that demand has to be strong and the consequences for not meeting it significant enough to matter and for that you need allies. Allies and opposition must be chosen strategically to meet your specific top goals. For instance, liberal Environmentalists could make a lot of progress teaming up with conservative farmers around the country now that we are living the effects of climate change. To some extent they already are, but for two things: 1. Democratic leadership doesn't do the foot work of actually talking to and getting to know these people and make them feel heard they just provide better policies and expect the people to come to them. 2. It's just not very well advertised and it seems like the conservative icon of the American Farmer is not being heard as much as they should by other conservatives on the topic of climate change.
All great points!
I feel similarly about Robert M. Price. He's a brilliant ex-Christian who's great to have on our side ... even though he's not on my side when it comes to politics.
Wait, you mean Make Attorneys Get Attorneys movement of Donald Trump?
Oh… I can tolerate Doug's (?) conservatism, having also been an active member of your and my former cult, but… it depends upon how far he takes it. What is his view of the climate crisis?
Dougy-Wuggly's pretty cool for a conservative 👍 Oh, and I'm not a repub or a demo, and I am a gun nut, sooo...
I particularly liked his dismantling of Darth Dawkins " Yeah, assume I'm wrong about everything..can we now talk about Jesus?"
I think Doug's content is great! And to think not all atheists are progressives, well, imagine that!
Hi, Brian