WOTM: Legend
C.S. Lewis, better known simply as "Clive," gave us what has come to be known as the "Lewis trilemma," regarding the Jesus of the gospels. Jesus was either a liar, a lunatic, or The Lord. My buddy, Paulogia has added, quite convincingly, a fourth "L" — legend.
Christians, somehow think that there couldn't be any legendary development, and they give all kinds of reason why. Very bad reasons, like... there wasn't enough time. I shoot down that silly claim, and show how we have absolute proof of legendary development right within the gospels themselves.
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Hey Bri! Wanna have REAL fun? Look into the Mormons and the Jehovah's Witnesses beliefs! LOL! 🤣
The J6 narratives contain many falsehoods and yet many people believe them as if they were true. And the true narrative was widely circulated, not to mention the proof of our own eyes. I'm not sure the truth/falsity of original J6 narratives bears on the point of legend formation,
I'm a fan of the 5th option. ie Mythicism. Actually I just started reading his Out of the Silent Planet. It's not grabbing me yet. Is your point a false equivalence? The January 6th lies are just that. Lies. Intentionally. Unless you think the Gospels are intentional lies? (that's possible).
Nice video!
There’s a tendency in counter apologetics to ascribe an unusual amount of honesty to those that wrote the Bible. There’s a distinct aversion to admitting that some, or all, of these writers may have done their work in order to gain something. Right now, in our internet driven & highly connected world, there are grifters (shock horror!!) that feign piety for financial or societal gain. People love fame & being admired. They love having the unearned respect for their beliefs or wisdom. So why, in a world filled with ignorance & superstition, a world exponentially harder than ours in which to live, do we ascribe such sincerity to people like Saul? Maybe he saw the respect that those he was persecuting were receiving? Maybe he got jealous as being a persecutor comes with stigma? Maybe he just thought the sentiments of Christianity seemed decent &, being life was really tough back then, he chose to improve his lot. There’s plenty in the Bible about him pushing the benefits of being a preacher. He advocates for the perks & requests them for himself. Apologists whine on about how hard life was for apostles back then with almost no evidence given besides second hand accounts which, I’m guessing, we’re written BECAUSE they stood out & not because they were the norm. I would imagine that unbounded respect, the authority of a god, people doting on your every word, free room & board & world travel would be rather appealing in times filled with disease, poverty & oppression? I’m not saying these WERE his motivations but as an atheist, who doesn’t believe that people hear from a god, I’m disappointed that counter apologetics seem to rule this out categorically. If you’ve ever watched Kenneth Copeland, Ted Haggard, Kat Kerr & their ilk lie for money & influence in our relatively comfortable world then why expect people in far harder times to be SO much better?
Our ex-cult knows it's true because they have the… 'L'iahona!