WOTM: God vs. Atheism: Which is More Rational (Part II)
Is belief in God more rational than Atheism?
This is part two of the video I posted earlier this week. I found it so strange that the Prager University video never talked about any specifics regarding the God of Abraham. They entire video seemed like one big advertisement for Deism, when that is not at all what they preach over there at Prager U? Why do such a thing? Because the second you start talking about the specific attributes of the God of Abraham, rationality goes out the window. Very clever on their part. But also, very deceptive.
Thanks again to all of you here on Patreon for helping me continue to make these videos. I hope to post the third chapter of "The God Distraction" (the one about the Bible) before the end of the month. I think you're really going to like it. Keep an eye (or nostril) out for the that one, and thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you!!!
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Totally agreed: Complete rubbish. A woman I work with was disappointed that her evangelizing hadn't panned out the way she had hoped, but at least she was making God happy. Is god up there waiting for us to rub his back and suck his toes? If so, then . . . what a dick. I am so glad I can listen to your vids and get confirmation about how ridiculous religion is.
Are you British? I always feel like Americans don't use "rubbish" enough. And I'm guilty too. I love that word!!!
Yeah I've used the "if God is all knowing and all loving, then why did he create beings that he knew would fail to enter his kingdom?" In a weird way, it's sort of a peek into the egos of the believers who want to feel more special than the dirty sinners. Also, why was God so pissed off at his creation that he drowned everyone in a flood? Shouldn't he have been able to foresee his own failure? It seemed to have taken him by surprise. We get angry when our expectations don't meet with reality. God shouldn't have gotten his hopes up for humanity because he should have foreseen how it would end up in Noah's time.
Yeah, it's all SO silly. I can't believe we're still having to deal with this in the 21st century. It's obscene!!!
Love the piece, glad to be a supporter! One thing I noticed, though, is that their abstract arguments were countered (at first) with other abstract arguments. It might be more effective to compare their beliefs with ... their beliefs. For example, their god is described as "all-loving" and "all-good" but at the same time, He is the creator of Hell and Satan. Since He is "all-powerful" he could cause both Hell and Satan to no longer exist and leave us with no memories of them, but he does not. This does not equate to either "good" or "loving" let alone with "all" in front of them. Apologists respond by saying that the treat of Hell is necessary to get people to repent, but then one has to ask "Why did your god make us that way, requiring "eternal torment in a lake of fire" to convince us to do something?" Could he not have made us so that a rational argument was all it took, e.g. "Boy, you made a good argument; I am going to have to agree with you" ... end of story? Again, this does not equate to being all-good or all-loving.
I'm laughing as I read this because all you really need to do is start concretizing these abstract ideas (exactly what I try to do with Mr. Deity) and suddenly it sounds so absurd. Great points!!!
Thanks Brian, great work as usual. Beautiful dog you have, thinking of getting a rehabilitated greyhound for our family later this year since the government shut down the greyhound racing industry here in Australia a little while back.
Thanks! I highly recommend the breed. If you're looking for a loving dog that is ultra low-maintenance, Greyhounds are amazing!!! Ours just wants to please. And we absolutely adore her. People who love the breed don't want them shutting down the racing because they tell me that as puppies, Greyhounds are monsters and no one will have the endurance. I hope that's not true.
I'm happy to support this kind of great and important work. I especially like the attitude. a little bit if indignation mixed with a health dose of self effacement. It also makes me laugh. Thanks.
Awesome! And you've hit the nail on the head. Indignation and self effacement. That's my motto!