WOTMQ: Jordan Peterson and the Burden of Proof
This guy is really getting around. I hear his Patreon is at $60,000(?). WTF?!!! I'm seriously considering a fake conversion to make some serious money for a while.
Anyway, if you haven't seen the conversation between Jordan and Matt Dillahunty, I recommend it. I just got triggered by them talking about God and morality as if the burden of proof is not what it is — theirs!
I also had an idea I wanted to run by youz guyz. I'm thinking of creating a series called "PragerFU". What do you guys think? There's a lot of material to debunk there. I know I'm already doing a lot of that, but perhaps a dedicated series is the way to go(?). Let me know what you think.
And thanks again for all your support!!! I really appreciate it! My hearts swells with either gratitude, early onset diabetes, or hypertension. Not sure. But I like to think it's gratitude. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you!!! B
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Brilliant, thanks Brian. It was extremely frustrating listening to Susan Blackmore do her best to refute Jordan Peterson's mumbo jumbo on Unbelievable last week. She needed you whispering in her ear, or maybe sending psychic messages via the ether :)
Thanks!
Brian, how can I get a transcript of this excellent rant? mac
Just email me at mrdeity@mrdeity.com and let me know you want it.
Follow your passion, BriBri. It's always led you properly in the past (except that one time in Santa Monica, I think it was… ;^)
Yeah, that was a nightmare. And the amount they required for my bail was ridiculously high.
If you're going to do a Prager FU series, which I would almost certainly enjoy, I would appreciate it if you dealt with one of their claims which has always bothered me. He literally claims that the 10 commandments are the best moral code ever written. As a rebuttal, which anyone may use freely, here are 10 commandments as written by an atheist. 1) Learn from the past. 2) Embrace the present. 3) Prepare for the future. 4) Consider the effects of your actions on future generations. 5) No sentient being is property. 6) Act to minimize overall suffering. 7) Act to maximize overall joy and understanding. 8) Power is to be bestowed, not taken. 9) Knowledge has inherent value. 10) Be willing to reconsider your beliefs.
These are fucking great!!! I love them. Did you write these?
That in the 21st century people would think that our morality comes from some invisible superman in the sky is pathetic. Once again, science slaps that notion up the side of the head. All that is required is to look at the numerous studies that have been conducted about other animals' behavior, and it is clear that our species is not at all unique with its so-called "morality." Such proclivities have been hard wired by evolution into a myriad of organisms, especially those whose natural selection involved a survival adaptability dependent upon social cohesion. Morality is in our genes, folks, not some bronze-age scribblings from a handful of primitive goat-herders.
I’m almost at the point where I do these videos just to read your comments. They are always so thoughtful and articulate. Truly a joy to read.
Brian, you hit the ball out of the ball park on this one. Makes me proud to be a patron.
I'd love a series dedicated to the dreck that PragerU put out!
A dedicated Prager series would be awesome. I swear I do at least two eye rolls, a head shake and a face palm on just about every one of their "educational" videos.
I just listened to your video for a second time to check if I missed any mention of Russell's Teapot. I think the idea behind Russell's Teapot is essential to these types of discussions. There are many arguments where the default position wins, i.e. if someone starts with the assumption that Russell's teapot is there, then there's no way to prove it's not there. However, the default position should be non-existence, not existence. Similarly, the default position should always be that there is no cause and effect, not the other way around. It's a bad idea to let someone assert that there is a cause and effect relationship (without any proof), and then assume the burden of proof is on you to show the cause and effect relationship isn't really there.
Absolutely! Great point. I'm just not a tea drinker.
Here's the Jordan/Dillahunty Video: <a href="https://youtu.be/FmH7JUeVQb8" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/FmH7JUeVQb8</a>
Great idea! Thanks for that.
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I like the idea of PragerFU. My conservative friends keep posting videos from Prager that I see in my Facebook feed, and I don't have the time to debunk them.
There we go. A valuable resource and service provided, right? That'll get me to $60K. Hahaha!!!
I for one, would rather you keep your head up and aware of the many more threads to pull on than just Prager. Don't get me wrong, I love the challenges to irrational thought they inspire in you.
That would just be another series. I would continue the others. I thought for branding, it might be smart. Their videos almost always have over a million views and that would be a way to get some traction (or so I thought).