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March 1, 2025

WOTM: The Values Of The West

This series is going to bleed into next month. I'm getting a bit more granular in terms of taking on the Christian attempt to say that Western Values are Christian values.

The problem Christians have is that we have the receipts — both in terms of their Holy Book, which makes explicit exactly what their values are, and the history of how they behaved when they had the power to put their values into practice.

I have three more parts for you this month. This is more of a basic introduction. Enjoy! And again, thank you all so much!!! B

WOTM: The Values Of The West (YouTube)

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Steven Dunlap · May 4, 2025

For a really depressing read (aren't I a ray of sunshine!) see _Indian Givers : how the Indians of the Americas transformed the world_ by Jack Weatherford. The first chapter describes how the largest silver mine in the history of the world was (is) a mountain in Bolivia, how half of all the objects in the world made of silver come from that mine, and that includes nearly all the church treasures made of silver. First the Spanish tried 6000 African slaves but they all died in the high altitutude and cold. Then they used forced labor of the local population. Lots of death, horror, misery and suffering -- but the church got its cut so... all good. [/sarcasm]

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Denis Loubet · March 6, 2025

It’s really down to all the voting going on in the Bible.

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Timothyrharmon@gmail.com · March 4, 2025

Christians worship the horrible sinner DJT, in whose palatial home they just auctioned off a golden goat idol, covered with fake money inscribed "In Trump We Trust," and with a golden penis. I think all of that comes earlier in the timeline than the Reformation.

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Mark D Larsen · March 2, 2025

Poor Tom… I guess he never heard of what European Christians did to the Taínos, Aztecs, Chibchas, Incas, Araucanos, Tehuelches, Guaraníes with their lofty “values.” And let’s not even get started with what the Christian Pilgrims and Pioneers did to the Amerindians in this country. Welp… ignorance is bliss… when promoting a book.

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Steven Dunlap · March 2, 2025

To paraphrase the athiest expression of disbelief going "one God further," may we suggest that in his horror of slavery Tom Holland should go one holy book further?

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Steve Ruis · March 1, 2025

Tom Holland has stated he has given up on "materialism" . . . but he is an historian, when has he studied the natural world, you know the universe of matter? Seems to be a Pandering to Sell Books Syndrome to me.

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Scott the K · March 1, 2025

Objection : there’s also a writer/director named Tom Holland (Fright Night, Child’s Play, Psycho 2). So this Tom has to be our 3rd favorite Tom Holland at best.