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February 1, 2025

WOTM: Accounting For All The Data

As many of you know, Philosopher, Philip Goff is not the first person to imagine a god of limited power. Most popularly, Rabbi Harold Kushner did so way back in 1981 with his massive best-seller, "When Good Things Happen To Bad People."

But Goff, in talking about his theory, says that it accounts for all the data. Does it? I don't think so. The Problem of Suffering/Evil is not solved by the limited god hypothesis — certainly not when Goff's god is still all-knowing and all-good. Or when Goff's god can create an entire universe, but can't do the most trivial things which would make this world better for all of us. It's just more silliness from the excusegists.

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Denis Loubet · February 16, 2025

Is the God so non-powerful that it’s forced to wait for the processes of its own creation to be carried out even though it already knows the results?

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Jan Miller · February 4, 2025

Kristi Noem, puppy murderer is in the Cabinet.

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Mark D Larsen · February 2, 2025

So typical of believers. Kushner just can't face that there is NO evidence of any god, even one who has bowed out of watching over his creation. Good things do happen to some bad people, for it all boils down to luck. Pure and simple. I'm lookin' at you, E'loon skuM.

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Julia · February 1, 2025

If you insist on a supernatural explanation for why evil is allowed to flourish while piety is flat out ignored, why child rapists are considered holy men and men of science live with death threats. Why robber barons from Augustus to Athelstan, from the Spanish conquistadors to the East India Company, from to Ford to Trump are allowed to not only thrive, but rule over nations; There is only one conceived of pantheon I know of that fits all 'the data'. The Lovecraftian 'Old Ones' A world created by and for malignant galactic horrors explains so much about the world we live in. They could have omnipotence and omnicognition and simply not care one way or the other about us. True world spanning gods of indifference and horror are the only viable gods that fit 'The Data' we all observe in nature and on TV. Gods in no way worthy of praise and worship. Or alternatively, we could just recognize that we are nothing more than evolved beasts making small strides to overcome our base animalistic natures. It's only a relatively recent attempt, but when we wield our twin tools of philosophy and scientific thought, it's the only time we've ever come close to the divine. We're backsliding as well meaning idiots try to bring us back to 'God', but I have a hope that the enlightenment has not yet been extinguished.

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Stephen James · February 1, 2025

But there isn’t any data.

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Phil Mitchell · February 1, 2025

Couldn’t an all knowing god have warned the helicopter pilot to move just a little to the left?